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Paolomania posted:So what you are saying is that, in the grim darkness of the near future, it is we who failed Hillary, rather that the primary process which picked a party darling hated by independents. Bernie would have won.
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Concerned Citizen posted:uh ok? it's also done in-person, as the text i pasted indicates Where do people stop going when they still have no job and are not required to go to one because their unemployment ran out? Let alone being able to afford to get to one It's a matter of where they get the sampleset and how they interact with them based on the sampleset's attributes. Zikan posted:furthermore bernie would have won 
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all we are saying is give keith a chance
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I'm starting to feel that we won't get what we want from the DNC chair election. Keith will lose and we'll have to wait to get our own Trump to hijack the policy to true leftism.
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Covok posted:I'm starting to feel that we won't get what we want from the DNC chair election. Keith will lose and we'll have to wait to get our own Trump to hijack the policy to true leftism. super delegates
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ThndrShk2k posted:And where is it done? At job/employement centers? it has nothing to do with loving employment centers holy poo poo just go read a book
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freckle posted:super delegates Republicans were dumb enough to repeal them. We need to do the same. We lost an election due to them. How hard could it be to force people to repeal them? Put the fire to their feet! Form our own tea party!
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super delegates are already going to be at least 90% dead, and also they aren't why anyone lost, including bernie.
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Concerned Citizen posted:it has nothing to do with loving employment centers holy poo poo just go read a book  I'd rather believe Sanders when he says Real Unemployment is much higher  Maybe you should read a book on human behavior and statistical sampling. It's useful for programming, why not politics 
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ThndrShk2k posted:And where is it done? At job/employement centers? they call or literally go to people's houses to attain a nationally representative sample you idiot. the CPS has a response rate of 90%. it's one of the best conducted, highly reliable and most informative survey's in the whole loving world furthermore bernie would have won
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ThndrShk2k posted:
when sanders says "real unemployment," he refers to u-6, which is part of the same survey
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meanwhile https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817322050297745408
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Paolomania posted:So what you are saying is that, in the grim darkness of the near future, it is we who failed Hillary, rather that the primary process which picked a party darling hated by independents. Bernie might have won, but polls conducted before the massive finely tuned right-wing smear machine turned its gaze onto Bernie instead of concern trolling in his favor are even less reliable than the actual election polling. Also, Bernie wouldn't have won the primaries even if Brasile didn't leak like 3 debate questions. The process should have been more transparent, but it was never close enough to be thrown in Clinton's favor by the DNC.
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MaxxBot posted:Shocker: Peter Daou just started a tweetstorm about how Bernie is Bad Please Shut the gently caress Up, Peter Daou
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It would have been nice if the CIA leaked stuff as blatantly politically as the FBI. I feel like evidence of Trump's Miss America Russian Sex Tour would have been a nice bombshell.
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Zikan posted:they call or literally go to people's houses to attain a nationally representative sample you idiot. the CPS has a response rate of 90%. it's one of the best conducted, highly reliable and most informative survey's in the whole loving world Which is unrealistic Ignoring that it still goes back to then why does the media report the lower number of not really unemployed people if that's not the real number since there's a number higher in the same report?
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zegermans posted:It would have been nice if the CIA leaked stuff as blatantly politically as the FBI. I feel like evidence of Trump's Miss America Russian Sex Tour would have been a nice bombshell. lol if you don't think the CIA does blatantly political leaks just as brazenly as anyone else
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Joementum posted:if the FBI wants to examine your computer in connection with a crime, you can just tell them no and there's nothing they can do I mean, it worked for Hillary's aides. The FBI only got access after agreeing to very specific limitations. Because... reasons, I guess.
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Thanks Julian
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Thoguh posted:I mean, it worked for Hillary's aides. The FBI only got access after agreeing to very specific limitations. Because... reasons, I guess. didnt want to let them know about the pizza
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Serf posted:https://twitter.com/TiffanyLLarsen/status/817399207690539008 I'm assuming this is a reference to the latest last-ditch effort of some congressional Democrats to challenge the Electoral College victory (on the grounds that some electors were seated improperly or something, I'm barely paying attention to it). Because of course Bernie Sanders should be devoting his time and energy to stupid bullshit longshot stunts that wouldn't even accomplish anything even if they succeeded.
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Please don't doxx me like that, TIA.
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zegermans posted:Bernie might have won, but polls conducted before the massive finely tuned right-wing smear machine turned its gaze onto Bernie instead of concern trolling in his favor are even less reliable than the actual election polling. I keep hearing this. What are they going to do? Call him a socialist/commie like some republicans already do?
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ThndrShk2k posted:Well that's only really assuming they reach everyone they hope and intend to. please, just stop quote:Ignoring that it still goes back to then why does the media report the lower number of not really unemployed people if that's not the real number since there's a number higher in the same report? there is no such thing as a "real unemployment" number, there are just different definitions of "unemployment." u-6 is a broader measurement (i.e. it counts more people as unemployed) but it isn't more "real" because it's higher - it's just a different measurement, useful for different functions. u-3 is a good measurement to use if you just want to know if people have jobs, and u-6 is a good indicator of job quality.
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docbeard posted:I'm assuming this is a reference to the latest last-ditch effort of some congressional Democrats to challenge the Electoral College victory (on the grounds that some electors were seated improperly or something, I'm barely paying attention to it). Well, Bernie did show up to that weird Kafka Gun Control sit in the dems had.
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CheeseSpawn posted:I keep hearing this. What are they going to do? Call him a socialist/commie like some republicans already do? I've heard everything from "I'm sure Bernie has SOME skeleton in his closet that would make him as unfavorable to the gen-pop as HRC was, SOMEwhere" to "the FBI would have found something fishy with his email, because that's what they did to slay queen abuela so obviously the same tactic would crush anyone else like a bug"
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As Bernie Sanders awoke one morning from troubled dreams he found himself transformed in to the person who would have won.
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docbeard posted:I'm assuming this is a reference to the latest last-ditch effort of some congressional Democrats to challenge the Electoral College victory (on the grounds that some electors were seated improperly or something, I'm barely paying attention to it). Bernie had a correspondence box in his outhouse where he kept all his old rape essays. hosed up, but true.
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Thoguh posted:As Bernie Sanders awoke one morning from troubled dreams he found himself transformed in to the person who would have won.
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the only skeleton in Bernies closet is from a banker that had the misfortune to run into him in a dark alley
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loquacius posted:I've heard everything from "I'm sure Bernie has SOME skeleton in his closet that would make him as unfavorable to the gen-pop as HRC was, SOMEwhere" to "the FBI would have found something fishy with his email, because that's what they did to slay queen abuela so obviously the same tactic would crush anyone else like a bug" Yeah it's funny, people always say on Facebook "I'm going to send your posts to your boss!" and I'm like "Which ones, the Corgi pictures or the ones where I say all people should be equal and treated with respect?"
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everybody's approval ratings go up when they're not running for office btw i bet GWBs approval ratings are above 50% now
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Thoguh posted:Well, Bernie did show up to that weird Kafka Gun Control sit in the dems had. Which should tell you something about the extremely low bar that this EC challenge has failed to clear. Ellison was involved in the sit-in too. I'm not aware he's anything to do with this; most of what I've seen out of him over the past few days is to do with "you know, taking away peoples' health insurance is actually a bad thing".
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Pretty impressive how the right wing smear machine stopped Clinton from campaigning in the rust belt. not that it really mattered if she campaigned there or not, since she'd lose anyway without PA (which she campaigned very hard for)
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