SUK ZONE: it's all a pointless exercise and you're just screaming into the void

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Gene Hackman Fan: Dec 27, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

establishment dems: "running around like our heads were on fire and our asses were catching is better than calmly doing something that would actually change things"

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:01

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logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

yes but fulcrum is a moron

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:01

Terror Sweat: Mar 15, 2009

logikv9 posted:

yes but fulcrum is a moron

the quintessential democrat

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:04

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

I'm not 100% convinced that fulcrum is even American

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:07

MaxxBot: Oct 6, 2003; you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

COMMIES

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/817406419238551552

I'm like a right winger by SA standards and even I find the red baiting stuff to be comical, must just be a thing for olds.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:07

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

logikv9 posted:

I'm not 100% convinced that fulcrum is even American

we went to the same college iirc

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:08

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

I'm not convinced that Al! is American now

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:09

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

youre all secret canadians, im pretty sure

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:10

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

I'm now 80%+ sure that fulcrum is either not American, or not in America any longer

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:10

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

logikv9 posted:

I'm not convinced that Al! is American now

it was a bad school, i kno because i graduated with high honors

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:11

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

im no canadian!

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:11

ThndrShk2k: Nov 3, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo; Bread Liar

Concerned Citizen posted:

please, just stop

there is no such thing as a "real unemployment" number, there are just different definitions of "unemployment." u-6 is a broader measurement (i.e. it counts more people as unemployed) but it isn't more "real" because it's higher - it's just a different measurement, useful for different functions. u-3 is a good measurement to use if you just want to know if people have jobs, and u-6 is a good indicator of job quality.

Which brings me back to the results of the polling is depending on the sample and the responses. the broader measurement is closer to a more realistic/true number than the means tested lower number that makes everyone feel good not because of the same data it's analysing, but in spite of it.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:11

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

ban fulchrum for being a terrible democrat making bad posts that ruined america!

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:12

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

im no canadian!

he said while squatting in the woods with a mason jar full of expired clamato

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:12

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

meanwhile, National Nurses United continues to be complete loving idiots

quote:

As Washington grapples with health care policy again, the head of the 185,000-member National Nurses United is turning her attention to a seemingly unlikely advocate for a single-payer system. "The one I�m counting on the most is Trump,� RoseAnn DeMoro said,

DeMoro, who serves as executive director of both the Oakland-based National Nurses United and the California Nurses Association, told POLITICO California on Thursday that she is �disgusted� with Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and believes that the president-elect may actually get action.

�He�s a businessman, he has an international perspective � and his wife comes from a country where they have single payer,�� said DeMoro, who also is an AFL-CIO national vice president and executive board member. �I think that Donald Trump is not about either party; he�s about something very different. He�s the one who can actually rise above this and do what�s right, and he knows as a businessman, it�s the most cost effective,�� she said.

And, she noted, Trump already has signaled to GOP party leaders that he�s willing to buck them on issues like ethics and the TransPacific Partnership.

�He�s not like these progressive yo-yos who pop off while people are dying,�� she said, adding that when it comes to single payer health care, �I hope that he has the courage to enact what�s right.�

DeMoro says she knows her words may outrage Democrats, but she argues the party officials have been ineffective in offering a strong counterpoint to GOP efforts to roll back the Affordable Care Act.

It's one reason she�s working with Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and scores of progressive groups for a national event on Jan. 15 in which they�ll make the case across the country for �Medicare for All.�

Her words come a day after Sanders took a starring role on Capitol Hill in reminding the GOP Congress � which has cited Obamacare repeal as its first priority � that Trump promised not to cut Medicare or Social Security.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told POLITICO�s Jake Sherman this week that his party will fight Republicans hard on Obamacare rollback, saying that repeal will "make America sick again."

"Our message is not just on Obamacare. Our message is don�t cut health care," Schumer said. "Medicare. Medicaid. Obamacare."

DeMoro says that while Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi continue to pound Trump, they have abandoned the possibility of a single-payer system as a means of meeting the needs of working class Americans. And that's why, she says, it would be "the greatest embarrassment to both of those parties" if Trump achieved single-payer. �I would love to see that one,'' she said.

�People say he agrees with the last person he listens to,�� DeMoro said of Trump. On the issue of health care, she said, �I�m hoping I�m the last person he listens to.�

National Nurses United has taken a central role in the health care debate on Capitol Hill, leading a coalition of progressive groups that have delivered a million signatures on petitions to lawmakers urging them to save Social Security and Medicare against threatened GOP cuts and to stand against the privatization of Medicare.

Under DeMoro's leadership, the National Nurses United has become increasingly active on the political front, and was the first major labor union to endorse Sanders in the 2016 election. The union raised more than $4.8 million in donations for a committee that supported his campaign.

In the 2018 governor�s race, the California Nurses Association already has endorsed Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom. As mayor of San Francisco in 2007 , Newsom launched Healthy San Francisco, a health care plan available to all city residents regardless of their immigration status, employment status or pre-existing conditions.

Last July, Newsom joined DeMoro in issuing a joint public call to the Democratic Party platform committee to endorse �Medicare for All� in the party platform.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:13

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

paranoid randroid posted:

he said while squatting in the woods with a mason jar full of expired clamato

i only drink dr pepper!

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:13

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

baloogan is my alt

or am I baloogans alt??

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:14

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

ThndrShk2k posted:

Which brings me back to the results of the polling is depending on the sample and the responses. the broader measurement is closer to a more realistic/true number than the means tested lower number that makes everyone feel good not because of the same data it's analysing, but in spite of it.

are you just making poo poo up or what because literally nothing your saying has anything to do with the actual topic of unemployment study. There is no 'real' unemployment, that's a political term used to frame the issue, there's no 'closer to true'

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:15

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

logikv9 posted:

baloogan is my alt

or am I baloogans alt??

Are you even real? Is anything?

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:16

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

Tatum Girlparts posted:

are you just making poo poo up or what because literally nothing your saying has anything to do with the actual topic of unemployment study. There is no 'real' unemployment, that's a political term used to frame the issue, there's no 'closer to true'

wth are you talking about donald trump fired tons of people on that tv show alone

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:16

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

jarofpiss posted:

ban fulchrum for being a terrible democrat making bad posts that ruined america!

Free Matey though.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:16

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

jarofpiss posted:

wth are you talking about donald trump fired tons of people on that tv show alone

Oh man, that's gonna make for some amazing democratic campaign ads in 2020 if unemployment goes up.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:17

paranoid randroid: Mar 4, 2007

"In the 2018 governor�s race, the California Nurses Association already has endorsed Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom"

dire

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:17

ate shit on live tv: Feb 15, 2004; by Azathoth

zegermans posted:

Bernie might have won, but polls conducted before the massive finely tuned right-wing smear machine turned its gaze onto Bernie instead of concern trolling in his favor are even less reliable than the actual election polling.

Also, Bernie wouldn't have won the primaries even if Brasile didn't leak like 3 debate questions. The process should have been more transparent, but it was never close enough to be thrown in Clinton's favor by the DNC.

Yes, surely the VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY MACHINE would have completely pants Bernie Sanders. Hell, I bet they would have called him a Socialist!

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:18

Lord of Pie: Mar 2, 2007

MaxxBot posted:

Shocker: Peter Daou just started a tweetstorm about how Bernie is Bad

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/817398494721966083

haha yeah we got a guaranteed two years of Republicans taking a huge clamato dump all over everything, but let's focus on the real problem, bernie bros.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:19

jarofpiss: May 16, 2009

Thoguh posted:

Oh man, that's gonna make for some amazing democratic campaign ads in 2020 if unemployment goes up.

how did hillary manage to spend a billion dollars on campaigning and not even have one good "you're fired!!" economy ad

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:20

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

CheeseSpawn posted:

I keep hearing this. What are they going to do? Call him a socialist/commie like some republicans already do?

Bernie's pro-rape essays have just as much allure and lack of factual basis as BENGHAZI and swift boating, for starters.

Trump created jobs while Bernie has never even held a real job! How can he expect to help you, White Man, when he can't even defend his mic from Black Lives Matter?

The point is that the attacks don't have to even be true, they just have to be sexy and/or racist. Right wing media is more powerful than you think.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:20

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

jarofpiss posted:

i only drink dr pepper!

i only huff dongs

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:20

Bushiz: Sep 21, 2004; The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se; Grimey Drawer

zegermans posted:

Bernie might have won, but polls conducted before the massive finely tuned right-wing smear machine turned its gaze onto Bernie instead of concern trolling in his favor are even less reliable than the actual election polling.

Also, Bernie wouldn't have won the primaries even if Brasile didn't leak like 3 debate questions. The process should have been more transparent, but it was never close enough to be thrown in Clinton's favor by the DNC.

just like it did to obama in 08

MaxxBot posted:

COMMIES

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/817406419238551552

I'm like a right winger by SA standards and even I find the red baiting stuff to be comical, must just be a thing for olds.

why does peter daou have a job at all anymore. Like who finds it worthwhile to pay attention to him. How can you be so goddamn loving stupid that peter daou's analysis is something you desire.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:20

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

jarofpiss posted:

how did hillary manage to spend a billion dollars on campaigning and not even have one good "you're fired!!" economy ad

how did she not remember that 'I like firing people' was a quote that genuinely hurt Romney

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:21

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

zegermans posted:

Bernie's pro-rape essays have just as much allure and lack of factual basis as BENGHAZI and swift boating, for starters.

Trump created jobs while Bernie has never even held a real job! How can he expect to help you, White Man, when he can't even defend his mic from Black Lives Matter?

The point is that the attacks don't have to even be true, they just have to be sexy and/or racist. Right wing media is more powerful than you think.

Counterpoint: They tried to go all in on Obama being Black, Muslim, and Socialist and it didn't stick. Why would Bernie just being one of those three stick?

Especially since he wouldn't have run away from it.

Trump: "My opponent is a socialist"

Bernie: "You're drat right".

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:22

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

I only drink vodka, I am prepared for the Russian incursion

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:22

ate shit on live tv: Feb 15, 2004; by Azathoth

Tatum Girlparts posted:

how did she not remember that 'I like firing people' was a quote that genuinely hurt Romney

PeePee
PooPoo
Hillary is a lovely politician/person.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:23

Aurubin: Mar 17, 2011

Man, I should really read something else other than SA on my lunch break. Apropos of nothing, bring back Celebrity Deathmatch but with politicians.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:23

Lord of Pie: Mar 2, 2007

Thoguh posted:

Counterpoint: They tried to go all in on Obama being Black, Muslim, and Socialist and it didn't stick. Why would Bernie just being one of those three stick?

Especially since he wouldn't have run away from it.

Trump: "My opponent is a socialist"

Bernie: "You're drat right".

"But you said you were less socialist than Eisenhower! WHICH IS IT OLD MAN? :argh:

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:24

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Bushiz posted:

just like it did to obama in 08

Obama had everything going for him and still didn't win by as much as he should have. He was one of the best speaker and campaigners in modern times, and his opponents were a guy whose party just murdered the economy 1 month before the election, and a guy who couldn't even pretend to muster empathy for half the voting base. He had everything going for him and in a glorious Fox/talk radio free world, he'd have Landon'd and Goldwater'd McCain and Romney.

Obama is the exception to the right wing's influence in society.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:25

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

insightful political commentary itt

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:26

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

logikv9 posted:

I only drink vodka, I am prepared for the Russian incursion

The upcoming krokodil epidemic will serve nicely to bookend the already-rampant opioid problem in this country.

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:26

Shinjobi: Jul 10, 2008; Gravy Boat 2k

logikv9 posted:

baloogan is my alt

or am I baloogans alt??

Your avy is too good sometimes

# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:27

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logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The upcoming krokodil epidemic will serve nicely to bookend the already-rampant opioid problem in this country.

Don't forget they're taking the "abstinence" method on drug abuse, rip rural america

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