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Wistful of Dollars posted:Good lord. I've been to some of those green triangles; what the gently caress are the red one's like if the ones I saw are green.
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I like this setting quote:On December 3, 2059, an earthquake destroyed the Richmond suburb, built on reclaimed land in the Fraser River delta. The Cascade Crow conducted a ceremony to honor the dead, but have largely left the ruins to rot.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 05:31 |
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I'm actually playing a Shadow run campaign right now and it's less "Wow this stuff is so far out and crazy hi tech!" And more like "poo poo I can see this in like 10 years, 20 for the funky stuff".
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 05:45 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:I like this setting The Shadowrun setting can get eerily accurate in some ways. In other ways its hilarious. Like Thunder Bay turning into a major metro area.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 05:57 |
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EvilJoven posted:Not really. I love it here, it's way more relaxed than the GTA, that's for sure. The province and Winnipeg itself aren't without their problems but if I had to do it all over again I'd do it without hesitation. fwiw for any visible minority "a LOT of racism" overrides however nice a place can be
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 06:08 |
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Furnaceface posted:In other ways its hilarious. Like Thunder Bay turning into a major metro area. Torontonians had to go somewhere
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Good lord. I've been to some of those green triangles; what the gently caress are the red one's like if the ones I saw are green. As someone who spends a lot of time working in the red triangles in Manitoba & NW Ontario: exactly as bad as you would expect.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 06:26 |
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Eej posted:fwiw for any visible minority "a LOT of racism" overrides however nice a place can be Ya I know that's why I brought it up. I'd hate to tell a native that isn't already used to poo poo attitudes about how Winnipeg is the best ever and have him move here based on my advice. No idea if it's bad for other visible minorities, I honestly don't hear too much griping about anyone else.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 14:31 |
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When I used to work at Polo Park mall, most racists complained about the Filipinos and their large families taking up so much space. But now it's mainly safe to target the natives and how they are the reason people will never venture downtown outside of Jets games
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 15:31 |
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The National Post: a lovely paper. quote:John Robson: Now we know Barack Obama’s foreign policy wasn’t principled, it was malicious Obama is anti-american and anti-West because he gave back a bust of Churchill loaned to Bush. Abstaining on a security council resolution that every other member voted in favour of, this, not all of Obama's other mistakes, no this vote is what will show Obama was weak.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 15:55 |
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Count Roland posted:The National Post: a lovely paper. They've been running these everyday for a week in the Post. There was one on Monday(?) all about how Obama was pro-palestininan, completely neglecting to mention the $38b/10 year military aid deal signed with Israel in September 2016.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 15:59 |
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Ezra Levant has been served with yet another libel suit despite still crowd funding the previous one he's lost.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Ezra Levant has been served with yet another libel suit despite still crowd funding the previous one he's lost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-vek4Sx8wM Won't someone protect this journalist?
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 16:36 |
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Speaking of fake news, here's some settled science. https://twitter.com/cbcalerts/status/817399280835194880
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 17:13 |
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Speaking of fake news, here's some settled science. What does this have to with fake news? Did you read the article?
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:00 |
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That'd be a good map to use for a fake purpose like HAARP or something
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:03 |
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Headline: The Ocean air currents are gonna stop like in that movie! Article: A model run under somewhat different settings than normal suggests that, in 300 years, the air currents over the ocean might collapse. Those who saw a stupid film a while back might remember a not entirely inaccurate explanation of why that might be bad.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:05 |
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brucio posted:What does this have to with fake news? Did you read the article? Yep I read the article. Did you watch The Day After Tomorrow?
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:06 |
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Yep I read the article. Did you watch The Day After Tomorrow? Yes. Just because the headline is over the top doesn't make the body fake.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:11 |
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brucio posted:Yes. Just because the headline is over the top doesn't make the body fake. The CBC really shouldn't be in the sensationalistic clickbait business.
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Pinterest Mom posted:The CBC really shouldn't be in the sensationalistic clickbait business. Oh for sure, I agree with that. It's a sad state we're in when the public broadcaster thinks it has to relate science news to lovely movies in order to get people to pay attention.
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Pinterest Mom posted:The CBC really shouldn't be in the sensationalistic clickbait business. It's the conceptual incongruity that bugged me I think. News and fiction are fundamentally different and (should) exist for different purposes. Starting our news stories with a tenuous "kinda like in" connection to a sci fi action movie seems like a bigger leap than I'm comfortable with towards full blown Idiocracy. brucio posted:Yes. Just because the headline is over the top doesn't make the body fake. It doesn't make the body fake but it does make it bad journalism. A huge percentage of people only read the headline. Over the top exaggerating is dishonest but dishonest news isn't the hot word for it so I went with fake news. Fake news doesn't mean literally fake news, I think it means something along the lines of the partisan, weaponized narrative idea.
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brucio posted:Oh for sure, I agree with that. It's a sad state we're in when the public broadcaster thinks it has to relate science news to lovely movies in order to get people to pay attention. They really do though.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:31 |
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PittTheElder posted:They really do though. One of the local Vancouver paper's site has been doing some work to combat ad-blockers, which I can understand since they need to get paid somehow. Unfortunately, this results in a banner ad right where the main headline would be claiming "Angelina Jolie has been murdered, Brad Pitt main suspect." It is a bit surprising to see serious mainstream journalism basically kill itself.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:40 |
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Postess with the Mostest posted:It doesn't make the body fake but it does make it bad journalism. A huge percentage of people only read the headline. Over the top exaggerating is dishonest but dishonest news isn't the hot word for it so I went with fake news. Fake news doesn't mean literally fake news, I think it means something along the lines of the partisan, weaponized narrative idea. Where is that ironicat gif that just keeps growing when I need it.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Fake news doesn't mean literally fake news, I think it means something along the lines of the partisan, weaponized narrative idea. Watch out, that slope looks icy. Also, fake news literally means fake news. i.e.: ocrumsprug posted:claiming "Angelina Jolie has been murdered, Brad Pitt main suspect." This is fake news. A hyperbolic headline referencing a lovely sci-fi movie is not fake news.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 18:51 |
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Don't know if it was posted here, but the Glob did a 24 hour summary and backgrounder on how the Vancouver dtes emergency services dealt with opioid emergencies last welfare Wednesday (last week). It's some pretty chilling stuff. I live smack in the middle of that area, saw a guy die on the street last Tuesday: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rticle33462579/
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infernal machines posted:This is fake news. A hyperbolic headline referencing a lovely sci-fi movie is not fake news. Fake news is bad. Real news is good. Hyperbolic exaggerated news is not fake news. Podesta child sex ring pizza code words isn't fake news because the pizza was real, the rest was just a bit of artistic license. "It's not fake, it's just really exaggerated" is a weird stance to take.
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Do you legitimately have trouble differentiating reality from fiction or is this some affected naivete? This isn't a spectrum or a matter of personal interpretation, "effects of changing climate could be reminiscent of scenes depicted in movie the day after tomorrow" and "gaslit imaginings of secret pedophile code words in otherwise innocuous emails" have no commonality. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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infernal machines posted:Do you legitimately have trouble differentiating reality from fiction or is this some affected naivete? You do remember who you are responding to right? The trifecta of rural conservative troll.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Fake news is bad. Real news is good. Hyperbolic exaggerated news is not fake news. Podesta child sex ring pizza code words isn't fake news because the pizza was real, the rest was just a bit of artistic license. "It's not fake, it's just really exaggerated" is a weird stance to take. referencing a study, and then claiming that it 'evokes' (ie: brings to mind) a bad movie isn't in any way a false claim. It's a dumb claim, but nothing false was said.
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Furnaceface posted:You do remember who you are responding to right? The trifecta of rural conservative troll. Yes, but he doesn't usually go for the completely indefensible.
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JawKnee posted:referencing a study, and then claiming that it 'evokes' (ie: brings to mind) a bad movie isn't in any way a false claim. It's a dumb claim, but nothing false was said. Sure, technically it might not be completely false for a journalist to say that reading the study brought this movie to her mind. Even if it's just because the author looks like John Cusack or whatever, it was evoked. I think we can reasonably say though that she was implying the thing that infernal machines rounded it off to, "effects of changing climate could be reminiscent of scenes depicted in movie the day after tomorrow". Reading this scientific paper made me think of the most unscientific movie ever, the one in which the temperature of the storm was dropping by 10 degrees... PER SECOND. I would think most educated journalists would kind of chuckle at the notion and then keep that to themselves so as not to reveal that they're a moron. This journalist thought gently caress no I'm going to put that right in the headline. infernal machines posted:Do you legitimately have trouble differentiating reality from fiction or is this some affected naivete? They definitely overlap. "Potentially more severe winters and stronger storms omg made me think of The Day After Tomorrow" vs "'The realtor found a handkerchief I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yours?' is a pretty goddamn odd sentence, here's one reddit user's theory" are both really bad journalism. Moving the goalposts from bad journalism to "is it completely 100% false?" doesn't seem like a good idea. Furnaceface posted:You do remember who you are responding to right? The trifecta of rural conservative troll. I'm a cutting edge progressive you dick. I was the only one here defending transethnic pioneer mr. boyden you'll recall.
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Scaramouche posted:Don't know if it was posted here, but the Glob did a 24 hour summary and backgrounder on how the Vancouver dtes emergency services dealt with opioid emergencies last welfare Wednesday (last week). It's some pretty chilling stuff. I live smack in the middle of that area, saw a guy die on the street last Tuesday: You live there and know it better than I do, but is there anything I can do to volunteer or help out down there? Specific groups I should donate to? It's absolutely terrible what's happening with this crisis in the DTES and I want to do something.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:They definitely overlap. "Potentially more severe winters and stronger storms omg made me think of The Day After Tomorrow" vs "'The realtor found a handkerchief I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yours?' is a pretty goddamn odd sentence, here's one reddit user's theory" are both really bad journalism. Moving the goalposts from bad journalism to "is it completely 100% false?" doesn't seem like a good idea. There's no moving goal posts. There is simply no comparison between the two no matter how hard you try to stretch the term "bad journalism". One is the author referencing popular fiction to illustrate a point (poorly) about a real climate study, the other is the wholly fabricated imaginings of 4chan being presented as reality. There is a fundamental difference between these two things. Reporting on the fact that 4chan/reddit gaslit themselves into believing there is a pedo cult operating out of a pizza joint is also not fake news. The original story that was created is fake news, but reporting on the actions of people who believe it is not. The word you seem to be searching for is propaganda. Propaganda, bad journalism, and fake news are not synonyms. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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We all remember that journalists don't write their own headlines, right?
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We're all literate enough to realize that wasn't even the headline, right? The headline is a rather dry "Atlantic Ocean circulation could collapse with climate change influence, study says". It's something the CBC social media intern wrote based on the second paragraph of the article, which reads:quote:If you've seen the disaster movie The Day After Tomorrow, you may have heard of the Atlantic Ocean currents and their importance. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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It's not even the headline of the actual article, it's the summary tweeted by whoever controls the CBC twitter alert. The reference to the movie occurs in the second paragraph of the article, while the rest of the article is spent discussing the findings of a scientific paper and in turn providing a dissenting opinion. edit: aw beaten by an infernal machine I never considered the flip side of fake journalism: people finding journalism they didn't like of being part of the fake journalism racket. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Right wingers have taken to calling all news they don't like fake, it's the new (((liberal media)))
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Count Roland posted:The National Post: a lovely paper. It takes a special kind of national insecurity to be offended -- as a Canadian -- when the American President won't unequivocally declare America the greatest country in the world. And it takes a special kind of insanity to think that a diplomatic spat with a tiny and very lovely ally like Israel is some kind of betrayal of the west. It's remarkable how in thrall conservatives in the west have become to the government of Israel, as though backing up whatever insane thing that country's far-right government wants to do is a pressing national security interest rather than a massive liability. It's even crazier given that the stated official position of both the Canadian and American governments, as well as the majority of world opinion, favours a two-state soltuion and condemns the current settlements as blatantly illegal. It's only been relatively recently that conservative opinion in the west has become so monolithically in favour of literally anything Israel wants to do, even when it contradicts the official stated position of the USA, which by every realpolitik metric should be the dominant partner in that alliance. Every major party has a cowardly position on Israel these days but the conservatives and Republicans take it one step further by elevating any disagreement with a foreign head of state on a different continent into a form of treason against the West.
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