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Zore posted:Dragon Age 2 had a ton of marketing and things before release? This was actually literally Dragon Age Origins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFSKkQRW8A
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"This is the new poo poo" was Dragon Age: Origins and it's my favourite piece of awful games marketing since Daikatana.
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Jan 6, 2017 19:06
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I mean, if they released an Andromeda trailer of this calibre set to, I don't know, Papa Roach or One Step Closer by Linkin Park, I'd be satisfied.
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Jan 6, 2017 19:09
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Android Blues posted:I mean, if they released an Andromeda trailer of this calibre set to, I don't know, Papa Roach or One Step Closer by Linkin Park, I'd be satisfied. "Take my moneeeey, I don't need that poo poo."
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Jan 6, 2017 19:12
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Android Blues posted:I mean, if they released an Andromeda trailer of this calibre set to, I don't know, Papa Roach or One Step Closer by Linkin Park, I'd be satisfied. Nah man, the new trailer trend is real breathy altered tempo covers of classic rock songs. I'm betting EA has a Bob Dylan cover all queued up or something.
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Jan 6, 2017 19:15
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To be fair, Dragon Age 2's marketing was exactly what put me off of the series indefinitely. In bioware's case not advertising something might give them better sales.
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Jan 6, 2017 19:41
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god the pre-release dragon age 2 thread was so good
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Jan 6, 2017 19:43
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seems like Bioware in name only, the founders are gone, a good amount (most of?) of the original talent is gone, this is an EA company, hooray
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Jan 6, 2017 19:44
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Milky Moor posted:This is basically what I think, too. I would like Andromeda to be a good Mass Effect game. But nothing that's been so far gives any indication that it's anything more than a very cynical attempt to continue the IP. There's no sense of innovation, really. When compared to other games in the genre, it seems like a slightly fancier ME3. It's nowhere near Witcher, yet obviously apes it. I don't like FO4 but I can point out that FO4 did some new things, like settlement building. It's why I liked the guy saying that FO4's marketing campaign was meaningless. It really wasn't! It made me sit up and take notice of a developer I'd written off. What is this game 'obviously aping' from The Witcher?
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Jan 6, 2017 19:45
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Android Blues posted:"This is the new poo poo" was Dragon Age: Origins and it's my favourite piece of awful games marketing since Daikatana. gently caress i forgot how terrible that was. my guess was that fantasy in video game(and media) wasn't depicted as "THIS HARDCORE" before or some poo poo so they just went with that. i mean at the time GOT was 2 years away and not many people had read the books(outside nerds). lovely marketing is lovely marketing. nerdz posted:To be fair, Dragon Age 2's marketing was exactly what put me off of the series indefinitely. In bioware's case not advertising something might give them better sales. to be fair, DA has always been in my opinion(and others) the weaker of the bioware series, its always done by the B team and in my opinion is the only bioware series that has legit aggressively bad characters instead of at worst(mass effect/kotor/jade empire) kinda off forgettable ones.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:11
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BexGu posted:No, Doom had marketing and hype but it was for dumbass multiplayer. It wasn't until the Nvida live demo when people realized "Oh poo poo, the SP is insanely fast and fun!". I didn't see poo poo about Doom besides a multiplayer Beta. Which like you said was trash. I saw a trailer or two but that was it. Dexo fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Jan 6, 2017 20:26
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Veotax posted:What is this game 'obviously aping' from The Witcher? The very little they show of the game shows an investigation section using a scanner for footprints that's pretty much witcher senses investigation. Even the dialogue uses the same structure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIzH6UcoW4&t=126s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbEm6es_ilo&t=165s The FLAMETHROWE R tech is also extremely reminiscent of the Igni sign in character animations, visual effects and mechanics (as explained on the menus). This one is reaching a bit, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIzH6UcoW4&t=248s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dYqPhctGh8&t=47s nerdz fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Jan 6, 2017 20:29
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I was trying to decide whether to get this on PS4 or PC but I think I might have decided to not get it on either until it price drops???
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Jan 6, 2017 20:31
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Witcher Sense is hardly a new innovation, people have been ripping off "see glowing stuff" vision since at least Arkham Asylum and Assassin's Creed 2.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:32
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Hell, ME2 does the glowing stuff thing during Kasumi's loyalty mission and it pops up in Inquisition as well. Its a pretty common part of the genre now.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:35
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exquisite tea posted:Witcher Sense is hardly a new innovation, people have been ripping off "see glowing stuff" vision since at least Arkham Asylum and Assassin's Creed 2. Technically the 'press key to highlight interactive objects' idea goes back to Baldurs Gate / Icewind Dale and maybe even further.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:38
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You gotta remember that bioware started saying poo poo like this when developing inquisition:quote:It’s a fresh start a certain degree, I mean this is a franchise with a long pedigree, even though it’s only the third game, and draws upon Bioware’s history much more deeply than the Mass Effect series does. So that always comes with certain expectations, you can only push that so far.Skyrim changed the landscape for role-playing games completely. I mean Oblivion probably sold six million units, basically that range, Skyrim sold 20 million. So that, to some degree, changes everything. That's why the game is a snoozefest. I remember when people played Bioware games to avoid Bethesda games.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:41
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exquisite tea posted:Witcher Sense is hardly a new innovation, people have been ripping off "see glowing stuff" vision since at least Arkham Asylum and Assassin's Creed 2. Yeah, "Detective Vision" was around long before Witcher 3.
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Jan 6, 2017 20:42
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Personally I think the gameplay & levels look a lot better already than ME3... The rest is going to be up to how good/bad the characters are and if you get any fun dialogue options along the way
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Jan 6, 2017 20:53
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nerdz posted:The FLAMETHROWE The MEA flamethrower is extremely reminiscent of the ME3 flamethrower. As in it's the exact same power with the exact same properties and evolutions.
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Jan 6, 2017 21:06
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Seemlar posted:The MEA flamethrower is extremely reminiscent of the ME3 flamethrower. As in it's the exact same power with the exact same properties and evolutions. Different evolutions actually. But it is basically the same.
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Jan 6, 2017 21:08
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BexGu posted:But yes waiting until reviews is the best bet here. I'm tempted if there is some massive deal on pre-release that drops it to say $30 or so but other then that everyone only wins by playing the waiting game. I dont give two cents about any of those reviews, the best way to get an impression on new games nowadays seems to be Twitch, choose a streamer that doesnt annoy you who plays this game and go from there AngryBooch posted:This was actually literally Dragon Age Origins. and this is the jade empire trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpl4eKn3aY Teron D Amun fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Jan 6, 2017 21:09
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well, here we go anyways: https://gamerant.com/mass-effect-andromeda-longer-gameplay-videos/ quote:A BioWare employee hints on Twitter that there will be longer gameplay demos of Mass Effect: Andromeda soon, while an insider suggests a marketing blitz is coming.
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Jan 6, 2017 21:11
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nerdz posted:well, here we go anyways: Not surprising really. I think EA has decided that gamers have no attention span so it's better to do a shorter marketing campaign. Especially if there were doubts about the release date
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Jan 6, 2017 21:13
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Android Blues posted:I mean, if they released an Andromeda trailer of this calibre set to, I don't know, Papa Roach or One Step Closer by Linkin Park, I'd be satisfied. I mean, we have reason to believe that this was their last resort.
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Jan 6, 2017 21:26
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Ein Sexmonster posted:Not surprising really. I think EA has decided that gamers have no attention span so it's better to do a shorter marketing campaign. Especially if there were doubts about the release date It's probably accurate. Most goons can't even remember anything about a game outside of which npc they want to gently caress and where it fits in their own personal fan fiction.
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Jan 6, 2017 22:13
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nerdz posted:The very little they show of the game shows an investigation section using a scanner for footprints that's pretty much witcher senses investigation. Even the dialogue uses the same structure. I'd say the Witcher senses one is also reaching since the Batman Arkham series was doing those investigation rooms before the Witcher iirc.
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Jan 6, 2017 22:50
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No you don't get it, Witcher 3 was the Alpha and Omega of video games. It invented the medium for Christ's sake!
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Ein Sexmonster posted:Not surprising really. I think EA has decided that gamers have no attention span so it's better to do a shorter marketing campaign. Especially if there were doubts about the release date Seems to me marketing hype is only good for preorders; the people who wait until the game is released will decide whether to buy it based on reviews. Preorders used to be good for reserving your physical copy in the event of a supply shortage, but now in the age of digital distribution they are only useful for people who get hyped by marketing fluff and want to brag about their preorder exclusive in game pet/cloak/skin/crap.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:15
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Look at this hack garbage rip off game Devil May Cry trying to ape Witcher with a handsome white haired swordsman.
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marshmallow creep posted:Look at this hack garbage rip off game Devil May Cry trying to ape Witcher with a handsome white haired swordsman. yeah even the combat is poo poo
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Jan 6, 2017 23:17
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gently caress you think that's bad? I played Jade Empire and it had a threesome! Just ripping off the Witcher left and right.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:20
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Now I'm reminded of how good Jade Empire was. Wish they'd make another.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:21
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I miss infinite ammo huge handguns. My heat bar capping out after three shots in a row of my ludicrous hand cannon was perfectly fine with me in ME1, because I knew I could use it as much as I wanted without worrying. Instead of not being able to go hog wild with my cool space magnums because every ammo upgrade and ammo fanny pack in the game is like, +8 ammo capacity and ammo pick ups don't even come with enough for a single reload. I also would like Lift/Pull as just a biotic skill you can use without it being a consumable grenade, to make a comeback. Vanguard Charge gets all the hype, but playing duck hunt with fodder vindicated my psychic powers more than eventually unlocking black holes at the end of the skill tree. At least if I read right, powers all have their own cooldowns again with no 'you just spell A! so now every other spell has a waiting period!'? So "gently caress this guy, I'm going to use every one of my engineer explosions on him in the span of two seconds" is back 
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Pull is one of the best talents.Serf posted:Now I'm reminded of how good Jade Empire was. Wish they'd make another. Haha, GOOD? You're drat right you're remembering it, because if you had played it recently you'd realize it's kind of a piece of poo poo. neat setting, though. *by piece of poo poo I mean internet piece of poo poo, which means it's certainly okay-ish, but with some serious stereotypical Bioware Shades of Binary narrative flaws. Also the combat really kinda sucks. Legacy of Kain Soulreaver had better combat. KOTOR had better combat. Drifter fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Drifter posted:Pull is one of the best talents. it is so easy to get mega-owned repeatedly at the beginning of Jade Empire like even the trash mobs will gently caress you up if you're not on your game
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Drifter posted:Pull is one of the best talents. Sorry, you mean Reave right?
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Jan 6, 2017 23:33
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I was always a little weirded out by the closed fist thing being a 50/50 shot of being Chinese kung-fu libertarianism or being Darth Vader.
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Jan 6, 2017 23:39
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Drifter posted:Pull is one of the best talents. "Classic" moral choice systems are why for all it's many faults I was okay with the Paragon/Renegade system. Open Palm Vs Closed Fist Good: I'm going to tell this slave not to kill the slaver, because killing is wrong. Nevermind the trail of bodies I killed with my bare hands to say that. Bad: So if civilians kill slavers, turns out they immediatly transform into axe murderers with a thirst for blood. Star wars MMO land: "Wait, wait.. Okay, It's DARKSIDE to give the stolen medical supplies back to the soldiers, and have them thank me for the fact that this save the lives of the wounded with their guts hanging out of them... And it's LIGHTSIDE, to let the people who stole medical supplies from dying soldiers keep them?" "But this small nameless child said he has a tummy ache!" Paragon Vs Renegade: "I'm going to tell you to kill yourself/execute these brainwashed prisoners now. Would you like me nice about it, or call you a pussy?" The end goal of just trying to do your drat job saving the universe as the emphasis, was nice. Even if it was hardly perfect either, it made the stupid gently caress ups just a little bit less stupid. Compared to "The rules of Vampire land mean if you accidentally kill a hobo twice, hand over your character sheet for the loss of humanity. Now, the rest of you go report back to hundreds year old vampire Joseph Stalin who remains perfectly functional." brand morality systems. Section Z fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jan 6, 2017 |
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Serf posted:Now I'm reminded of how good Jade Empire was. Wish they'd make another. What did you like?
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