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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's called QWERTZ.

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Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I distinctly remember programming a universal remote by calling a call center and having them select my TV model and holding the remote to the telephone handset and it screeching data back over audio.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


At least it's not AZERTY

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Metal Geir Skogul posted:

I distinctly remember programming a universal remote by calling a call center and having them select my TV model and holding the remote to the telephone handset and it screeching data back over audio.

Reminds me of the PocketMail that I had years ago.



Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I posted this in another thread but I think if fits here.

Does anyone remember ColdFusion?

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html

It's a markup language that also gave you scripting abilities to interact with databases. Really early versions of Facebook used this and I've also seen quite a few US government offices develop with it.

It's still around but other than updating legacy systems I don't think it's that big anymore. It was developed by a guy on the east cost and was bought out by Macromedia in 2001 and then came under Adobe when they bought them out.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Bonzo posted:

I posted this in another thread but I think if fits here.

Does anyone remember ColdFusion?

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html

It's a markup language that also gave you scripting abilities to interact with databases. Really early versions of Facebook used this and I've also seen quite a few US government offices develop with it.

It's still around but other than updating legacy systems I don't think it's that big anymore. It was developed by a guy on the east cost and was bought out by Macromedia in 2001 and then came under Adobe when they bought them out.

I 'member. It was real bad

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Speaking of NUON here is one running some port of tempest 2000

The controller blows

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
How many times has the phone from The Matrix been posted? Those phones were badass.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I like that Nuon didn't even try to mask their N64 controller knockoff



the Logitech controller for it was pretty :krad: for its time tho

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

TheBigAristotle posted:

How many times has the phone from The Matrix been posted? Those phones were badass.

We talked about flip phones a few months back, and yes the Matrix one was posted.

Klenath
Aug 12, 2005

Shigata ga nai.

The "web development" group in my organization at the university where I work only develops in ColdFusion. Need a new web form or app? CFML! :(

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Bonzo posted:

I posted this in another thread but I think if fits here.

Does anyone remember ColdFusion?

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html

It's a markup language that also gave you scripting abilities to interact with databases. Really early versions of Facebook used this and I've also seen quite a few US government offices develop with it.

It's still around but other than updating legacy systems I don't think it's that big anymore. It was developed by a guy on the east cost and was bought out by Macromedia in 2001 and then came under Adobe when they bought them out.

Hahahahahaha

I am obligated to develop primarily in ColdFusion because I work with someone who swears by it and thinks anything newer is just me being a hipster.

Just this past new year I had to write a python credit-card-charge runner because (his version of) CF's cryptography is so old Stripe retired it on the 1st, rendering our existing CF-based client useless. The new solution may be the foot in the door I need to get us to consider stacks that have matured within the last five years.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Data Graham posted:

Hahahahahaha

I am obligated to develop primarily in ColdFusion because I work with someone who swears by it and thinks anything newer is just me being a hipster.

Just this past new year I had to write a python credit-card-charge runner because (his version of) CF's cryptography is so old Stripe retired it on the 1st, rendering our existing CF-based client useless. The new solution may be the foot in the door I need to get us to consider stacks that have matured within the last five years.
You poor son of a bitch

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Data Graham posted:

Hahahahahaha

I am obligated to develop primarily in ColdFusion because I work with someone who swears by it and thinks anything newer is just me being a hipster.

Just this past new year I had to write a python credit-card-charge runner because (his version of) CF's cryptography is so old Stripe retired it on the 1st, rendering our existing CF-based client useless. The new solution may be the foot in the door I need to get us to consider stacks that have matured within the last five years.

I was quite active in the CF community back in '00--'02 (In fact I got all my 9/11 updates via a CF user group listserv in real time) and yeah, some of them are quite BOFH types. Has this co-worker ever dropped the name Ben Forta? He's like the Steve Jobs of CF, or at least was back in the day.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Nah, only Ben I run into on the reg is Ben Nadel, without whom I'd never have figured out how to make the drat thing behave like a back-end that wants to publish APIs in a sane format.

Mmmm, JSON keys in all caps, no concept of null, I love it :suicide:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Data Graham posted:

no concept of null

:what:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Well okay, null exists in the embedded scripting language and there are methods that deal with it, but all SQL commands take place in the tag engine (much like JSP, which is the only other thing this guy will countenance my using) and if you get a null value in a query result you have to compare it to "" because the tag engine's logic is completely untyped.

NULL IS FOR LOSERS LOLOL

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
I did CF development for almost years between 08 and 14.

It works...fine...

CF's biggest problem isn't necessarily its stagnation or its feature set. It's that it's comically easy to write absolute loving garbage that somehow runs. It's way too easy for any CF code base to become an unmaintainable nightmare.

Oh, and considering the drat thing is owned by Adobe, it's PDF generation capabilities were poo poo for years. Like, they could have produced the easiest way to programmatically produce a PDF, but instead, it's all hacky ancient HTML and arcane little-used tags and attributes, because Adobe would rather swim in a Scrooge McDuck money bin than invest a cent more than necessary in the platform.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Blue Moonlight posted:

Oh, and considering the drat thing is owned by Adobe, it's PDF generation capabilities were poo poo for years. Like, they could have produced the easiest way to programmatically produce a PDF, but instead, it's all hacky ancient HTML and arcane little-used tags and attributes, because Adobe would rather swim in a Scrooge McDuck money bin than invest a cent more than necessary in the platform.

Said PDF generation is also extremely buggy. As you say it's all based on HTML and CSS, only it's using some special snowflake rendering engine that ignores or misinterprets almost anything you throw at it, and so you're basically writing to a layout standard from like 1998 and pushing poo poo around at the pixel level. And then table cells won't line up or size properly, box borders display or disappear according to their own capricious whims, and oh! then you get to deal with typography, which I don't know how Adobe of all companies managed to even do it so badly, it had to have taken actual effort. Needless to say you only get like two or three fonts, and they have this bizarre wide-set uneven kerning that makes it all look like a ransom note, and of course none of the remotely modern typographical CSS commands like letter-spacing do anything. And my favorite, if you make the text bold in this area up here on the page, THE ENTIRE REST OF THE PAGE IS BOLD NO MATTER WHAT gently caress YOU. (But only sometimes. There are ways to keep it from leaking bold all over the page by being very very very careful and isolating everything into little boxes, but lord help you CSS classes do nothing to protect you

... What do you mean were poo poo?? Has it improved?

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Remember the Timex Datalink? It was an early predecessor of smartwatches that you synced by holding up to your computer screen which would strobe or something to transmit data.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Datalink

Well, in the YOOL 2017, I just had to program a wireless adapter for a Pitney Bowes postal machine the same way.

https://setup.smartlink.pitneybowes.com/connection

You put your SSID and password into that page, then press start and hold the adapter up to your screen while it flashes in a spot to transmit the data. Only took me 6 tries or so to get it to work. The adapter connects to the postage machine via usb, so seems like maybe they could have used that to set it up on a PC first but nope. Flashy lights while I try to hold it perfectly still up against the monitor.

Oh man, this is super neat to hear about. Part of my occasional employment in childhood education involves guiding kids on using these pretty neat-o little reprogrammable line-following robots which interface with the web-based Scratch coding application the same way. Only problem is the poverty-spec edu-books we're supposed to teach from are literally too slow in the processor to render the flashing lights at a high/steady enough frequency for the bots to read it, so we'd have kids designing programs on the notebooks then walking them over to the one teacher computer for my poor assistant to desperately copy over all their code for download.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

:lol:

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

A bit late to the conversation, but bootleg DVDs are still a thing around here in manufacturing plants. I have a friend who's father works in a GM stamping plant and someone there has a nice little operation and has paper copies of the current price list that goes around and people buy movies even in 2017. Then again, here in central Indiana, we still have video rental stores....lol.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I guess it makes sense for older people who have no idea how torrents work. MPAA should be going after them for actually making money off it instead of whatever 13 year old uploads for the ecreds.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
I'm wondering if someone will recognise any of this cause I'd love to know what it was.

So as I little kid we had this "video game" of sorts and I use the quotation marks because it was literally a video-game. Think Mad Dog McGee but it was a space shooter, on a VHS tape and it came with a light gun of sorts and the gun could detect if you'd fired at the right place during the video and tabulate your score. I don't remember any feedback from the gun on the screen and being a video tape the "game" was obviously a static thing but the gun could tell if you'd shot the spaceship accurately and how many times before it exploded. The gun showed your score on red led's through a viewfinder.

I have very few memories of the actual video but I'm pretty sure it was movie style special effects and not like a blocky early video game. It was fairly short, I feel like it was only 5 or ten minutes long but I may be wrong about that as I was between the ages of 5-9 when we had this.

This was most likely owned between 91-94 but was could have had it since the late 80s for all I know. I remember the gun itself as being about the size of a standard arcade or Duck Hunt style gun, grey and orange or red plastic. It was substantial in my little kid hands. Pretty sure it was wireless and just ran off batteries.

Lastly this was in the U.K. My family was not well off so I don't know if it was actually a 90s era thing or if it was something from the late 70s or 80s that my parents got cheap cause now everyone wanted Nintendo. All I know is none of my friends had it and I've never seen another one then or since.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Challenger ?

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

drat you're good. I read the page and it literally described everything I wrote so I googled the name and actually found the video on YouTube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMiSxNpY6CU

I wasn't sure at first but the second those Tie Fighter ripoffs showed up it all came rushing back. :dance:

I suggest you skip to 6 mins in to see the best enemies in the "game". It starts out fairly conventional until a few minutes in when you're shooting live fish spaceships until you get swallowed by a giant snake and stuff.

Man it's such a trip to watch something you literally haven't seen since you were a little child and didn't realise you remembered. The comments are full of people who also had it when they were 5 so I guess I've found my tribe.

Seriously, thanks man :cheers:

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Blue Moonlight posted:

I did CF development for almost years between 08 and 14.

It works...fine...
Coldfusion is bad. It has always been bad.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Data Graham posted:

... What do you mean were poo poo?? Has it improved?

In CF11 they introduced the <cfhtmltopdf> tag to use instead of the <cfdocument> tag. It used a less-busted renderer, but was only available for Windows at the time. I'm not sure if it's improved since, or if they brought it to other platforms - CF11 was the tail-end of my CF "career".

I used to add comments before <cfdocument> blocks like "Abandon all hope ye who enter here."

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


jojoinnit posted:

drat you're good. I read the page and it literally described everything I wrote so I googled the name and actually found the video on YouTube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMiSxNpY6CU

I wasn't sure at first but the second those Tie Fighter ripoffs showed up it all came rushing back. :dance:

I suggest you skip to 6 mins in to see the best enemies in the "game". It starts out fairly conventional until a few minutes in when you're shooting live fish spaceships until you get swallowed by a giant snake and stuff.

Man it's such a trip to watch something you literally haven't seen since you were a little child and didn't realise you remembered. The comments are full of people who also had it when they were 5 so I guess I've found my tribe.

Seriously, thanks man :cheers:

That was awesome. I really want to play it now. There are some transition presets that I recognise from ym days as a video editor and I just cannot put the name to the analog package they were made in.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
Sounds like a show that was around when I was a kid, called Captain Power. It had suprising good production values for a kids show, but it's gimmick was the toys you could buy that could "see" the strobing chest plates on the enemies in the show. So you'd shoot them, and they'd "shoot" back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHZ5FTPYuWE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYesRQsDz8

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Sounds like a show that was around when I was a kid, called Captain Power. It had suprising good production values for a kids show, but it's gimmick was the toys you could buy that could "see" the strobing chest plates on the enemies in the show. So you'd shoot them, and they'd "shoot" back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHZ5FTPYuWE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYesRQsDz8

I loved Captain Power. The costumes were great and it used to genuinely startle me when I'd get shot and the action figure would eject from the cockpit of the ship/gun. And you're right, the production values were fantastic for a live action show designed to sell toys.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
2 fun facts about Captain Power:

J. Michael Straczynski of Babylon 5 was the head writer.

There is a reboot of it in the making under the name Phoenix Rising https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKQoLfuAjSU

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


CubanMissile posted:

I loved Captain Power. The costumes were great and it used to genuinely startle me when I'd get shot and the action figure would eject from the cockpit of the ship/gun. And you're right, the production values were fantastic for a live action show designed to sell toys.

I wasn't sure what you meant by 'eject' until the ad. Wow that is pretty drat awesome. I hesitate to check ebay for the prices of those things now.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Humphreys posted:

I wasn't sure what you meant by 'eject' until the ad. Wow that is pretty drat awesome. I hesitate to check ebay for the prices of those things now.

Not bad really. $55 US for a boxed PowerJet
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEALED-VINTAGE-CAPTAIN-POWER-SOLDIERS-OF-THE-FUTURE-POWERJET-XT-7-MATTEL-1987-/391647637811

The complete DVDs are on Amazon for around $35. However I don't think the light guy would work on anything other than an old CRT TV

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Bonzo posted:

Not bad really. $55 US for a boxed PowerJet
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEALED-VINTAGE-CAPTAIN-POWER-SOLDIERS-OF-THE-FUTURE-POWERJET-XT-7-MATTEL-1987-/391647637811

The complete DVDs are on Amazon for around $35. However I don't think the light guy would work on anything other than an old CRT TV

drat you.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

Never watched the Captain Power show, but I did have the bad guy jet toy and one of the training videos, which were 80s Anime as gently caress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33lK1e17HYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSK-8D9sj-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkIeuLp1SiY

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SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


I feel like I already posted this, but the Captain Power stuff reminds me of Voltron. When I was a kid I called into a radio show and answered a question - who pilots the green lion? It was Pidge I think, and I won literally a Pidge figure.

I asked for the actual lion for Christmas and didn't get it.

gently caress Voltron. Oh my legs are cats I'm so loving cool.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

I had a few Captain Power toys back in the day (edit3: it was sky commanders, so disregard), but none that were interactive with the show. The one I remember was a zip line type of thing, but I only remember it because I mixed it in with my GI Joes and MASK toys. (MASK was the poo poo).

Edit: and Dyno Riders. Loved Dyno Riders but not as much as MASK.

E2: I work with a guy who's around 10 years older than me (I'm 37) who used to be a hard core GI Joe collector and at one time owned every single North American figure and vehicle, including all of the special promo characters that had to be sent off for. He sold the majority of them a few years ago when he moved back to town, but has a crazy encyclopedic knowledge of the whole toy line, cartoon series, and comics, and can rattle off facts about all of it without blinking an eye.

empty baggie has a new favorite as of 07:15 on Jan 14, 2017

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

empty baggie posted:

I had a few Captain Power toys back in the day, but none that were interactive with the show. The one I remember was a zip line type of thing, but I only remember it because I mixed it in with my GI Joes and MASK toys. (MASK was the poo poo).

Edit: and Dyno Riders. Loved Dyno Riders but not as much as MASK.

I'm pretty sure the only thing that didn't interact were the actual figures... And even they had a plug-in backpack thing that shined light through their chest apertures.

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empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

FilthyImp posted:

I'm pretty sure the only thing that didn't interact were the actual figures... And even they had a plug-in backpack thing that shined light through their chest apertures.

(EDIT: nevermind. It was sky commanders. See the next post) The one toy I definitely remember having may have still interacted, but I can't remember actually using it with the show. You could attach one end of it to a door and the other end to a table (at least that's the way I did it), and you could have the thing slide down the string. Now that I think about it, maybe it did blow up or something if the show was on, but the only thing I definitely remember was that it was part of the captain power line, though I'm old and maybe I'm mixing it up with something else, but my old toys are one thing I have a fairly decent memory of so I don't think I'm wrong.

E: I wasn't a big fan of the show, considering you really needed the toys for it to be fun, so I can only imagine that the toy was given to me by a relative on Christmas or something, so my only memory was using it with my other action figures.

Phone posting, but I swear it looked like that thing in the middle of this image, although google tells me that was part of the blast pack that included the black jet looking thing, and didn't include a zip line type thing. Maybe I am mixing it up with another toy line, but that toy line had to be obscure because I definitely remember it not being a part of any other line I owned at the time.

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