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Rinkles posted:Whaa? XCOM 2 for $12 as part of the Humble Bundle monthly subscription. (which I take you can immediately unsubscribe from). Yup. Just bought this today during lunch and got it preloading to play tonight. I'm ready for some XCOM
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Adding weird Crusader Kings style event chains would be imteresting but I'm not sure how I feel about that. What would they even do, mechanically?
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Jan 6, 2017 23:34
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presumably chances for small bonuses/losses, not enough to gently caress over or win your campaign on their own? soldier in the proving grounds could result in them hurting themselves and going to medbay or getting a random grenade/ammo/etc (same material cost still, just doesn't take up your proving grounds queue time) soldier cult would probably redistribute some soldiers' stats in the same direction i don't know about the shadow chamber that was an example i came up with for the post
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Jan 6, 2017 23:53
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Kennel posted:I really like More Nations Mod which makes XCOM a true global organization. As a console player what I'd love in a similar vein is more voices, I'm not even talking about the humorous ones like Bob Ross (though those seem good too), just give me a few more major languages like Chinese, Russian, and maybe a few slightly generic English and French speaking African accents, I wouldn't even mind if they trimmed down some of the other voice groups like the Americans to make space. Really I'd love mod support in general, but just voices would be nice.
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Jan 7, 2017 01:36
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Elth posted:Adding weird Crusader Kings style event chains would be imteresting but I'm not sure how I feel about that. What would they even do, mechanically? I wouldn't mind this actually. It would be cool if soldiers had personalities as well, or some kind of nonsense like that. LW2 is going to be very good, I think, mostly because the modding tools are sick and also because the LW2 guys have like 200+ hours on the tools, which is p. cool. I enjoyed their mods for 2 so far and I think the entire game needs some refinement and tuning, so I'm interested to see their take on XCom2. e: I'm in favor of a smaller Xcom size for 2, only because of the guerrilla warfare aspect. Something like the notoriety mod + some other meta systems for character building would be pretty cool, and I think Xcom excels as this kind of ambient narrative.
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Anime_Otaku posted:As a console player what I'd love in a similar vein is more voices, I'm not even talking about the humorous ones like Bob Ross (though those seem good too), just give me a few more major languages like Chinese, Russian, and maybe a few slightly generic English and French speaking African accents, I wouldn't even mind if they trimmed down some of the other voice groups like the Americans to make space. Really I'd love mod support in general, but just voices would be nice. Yeah, XCOM 2 was among the top-12 most profitable games on Steam last year. They could throw some extra money for 20-50 additional voice actors.
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Jan 7, 2017 01:57
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Yup. Just bought this today during lunch and got it preloading to play tonight. It's so goddamn good. And the end of the game hints as to where they might take it, which is exciting.
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Jan 7, 2017 02:02
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Is it just me or is LWPP's Assault basically the best class ever?
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Jan 7, 2017 06:11
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Apoplexy posted:Is it just me or is LWPP's Assault basically the best class ever? It's literally the EW Assault class, but with swords
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Jan 7, 2017 06:17
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Kennel posted:Evac All and Overwatch All/Others are nice quality of life mods. I use the More Nations Mod which is good but has this weird tendency to fill up XCOM with soldiers from obscure sub-saharan african countries and pacific island nations.
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Jan 7, 2017 07:28
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Also Stop Wasting My Time, Instant Avenger Menus and Quick Reload - why default UI has so many pauses and super slow animations is beyond me.
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Jan 7, 2017 07:47
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Stop Wasting My Time ain't great for a first playthrough as it cuts out a lot of the incidental dialogue and tutorializing from Bradford/Shen/Tygan.
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Jan 7, 2017 07:49
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I stand by what I've said - I advocate a first-time playthrough to be completely mod-less. The game runs perfectly fine and playable and enjoyable without mods. Plus, playing Vanilla at least once lets you fully appreciate the mods you grab.
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As sombody that never followed Long War 1, what exactly does the Commissar perk do?
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:As sombody that never followed Long War 1, what exactly does the Commissar perk do? You get to insta-kill a mind-controlled soldier.
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Jan 7, 2017 09:59
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VolticSurge posted:You get to insta-kill a mind-controlled soldier. Which is funny the first time it happens, not so much so when you're on the final map of the game and you needed all the firepower you brought.
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Jan 7, 2017 16:50
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Oh hey I wondered when someone would make dark events permanent because I always thought they should be.first comment posted:Brutal AF, this thing is imposible to win mixed with ABA2. May need to use with discretion.
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Jan 7, 2017 17:01
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Kwyndig posted:Which is funny the first time it happens, not so much so when you're on the final map of the game and you needed all the firepower you brought. Don't do it then. It's basically a joke perk you can just noy use
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Jan 7, 2017 17:12
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Honestly I shouldn't have said the commissar perk in of itself, it's more like I have a strong dislike for the Long War studios team's focus on doing dumb things at times when far more useful stuff could have used their attention. A better example would've been the fact that they made what could have been a pretty useful mod options utility...and then tied it to a mod that was hard to work with when it came to being compatible with other mods, and never really had a solution until a competitor (Mod Config Menu) already established a monopoly. And even then that solution for LW Mod Options was made by someone completely unaffiliated with the team. Like I think someone on here posted something close to my feelings about their mods, they can come up with pretty great ideas and then do completely dumb things with them.
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Jan 7, 2017 17:26
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Which of the paid DLCs are worth getting? I got the the game via Humble Bundle so I'm down for some upgrades.
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Jan 7, 2017 17:52
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Which of the paid DLCs are worth getting? I got the the game via Humble Bundle so I'm down for some upgrades. You can safely skip Anarchy's Children if you don't like the look, it's a pure cosmetics DLC. Alien Hunters is basically a hardcore challenge mod with some neato rewards for killing the aliens it adds, that said they may be too hardcore for a first timer like yourself, in which case I would suggest grabbing Delayed Ruler Entrances" so you face them when your squad tends to be a power level that can deal with them more easily (though it'll still be a bit of a challenge.) Shen's Last Gift adds in giant robot buddies for you to kill aliens with. They may not be that great (though they're ok enough in my opinion for a vanilla-esque game) on their own, but I mean, giant robot buddies. Plus there's several mods to make them better once you start getting to the point of adding difficulty increasers Exposure fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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Jan 7, 2017 17:55
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Which of the paid DLCs are worth getting? I got the the game via Humble Bundle so I'm down for some upgrades. shens last gift is the only one worth paying for
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Maluco Marinero posted:I'm currently working on it, finally got my life in order that I'm gonna be putting 7hrs a week minimum on modding. This sounds really cool. I've always felt like you should have more control over the strategy of the campaign. Like, why do these guerilla ops and convoy ambushes and VIP extractions happen seemingly at random with no warning? I should be planning them ahead of time. Anyway, best of luck!
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Jan 7, 2017 19:34
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Alien hunters is cool if you grab a mod to trim them down a bit.
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Jan 7, 2017 20:14
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Alien Hunters are great as is. They're a fun challenge unlike anything else in the game and really force unorthodox tactics and get you to mix up your strategy.
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Jan 7, 2017 20:19
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I own the Alien Hunters DLC (it was part of the bundle I got for Christmas). If I don't want those assholes showing up, I enable the story mode for it, then just don't do a certain mission, right? If not, do I need to uninstall the DLC and start a new game?
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FredMSloniker posted:I own the Alien Hunters DLC (it was part of the bundle I got for Christmas). If I don't want those assholes showing up, I enable the story mode for it, then just don't do a certain mission, right? If not, do I need to uninstall the DLC and start a new game? Correct, simply enabling the story mission and then not completing it will prevent the Alien Rulers from showing up. However, if you download the DLC, then load an in-progress campaign from before you downloaded, it will ask if you wish to enable the new content: BEWARE, THIS WILL ACTIVATE THE RULERS THEMSELVES, NOT THE STORY MISSION.
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Jan 7, 2017 20:51
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BlazetheInferno posted:Correct, simply enabling the story mission and then not completing it will prevent the Alien Rulers from showing up. Cool. Just so I know, which mission is the one I shouldn't do? Or will it be blatantly obvious?
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FredMSloniker posted:Cool. Just so I know, which mission is the one I shouldn't do? Or will it be blatantly obvious? It'll pop up as 'investigate The Nest'.
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So are the Rulers just hilariously unfair, or what?
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Jan 7, 2017 21:17
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So are the Rulers just hilariously unfair, or what? They get an action every time you make any action, as a reaction. You move? They get to go now. Also they have way too much HP.
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They get a free move when every one of your guys does anything Sort of the end point of designing a game around foiling Twitch superusers.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So are the Rulers just hilariously unfair, or what? They take an action any time one of your soldiers do during your turn. They also have persistent health and flee if you damage them enough. This is pretty radically different from the rest of the game but the Ruler DLC gives you a lot of tools to even the playing field too. They really aren't unfair. They have little/no burst damage, are insanely sceptible to burning/poison damage since it ticks on every one of their turns. Flashbangs make them run around uselessly most of the time etc People really just hate that they're different i think. Zore fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jan 7, 2017 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So are the Rulers just hilariously unfair, or what? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkM6_SL8dgw&t=830s
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The only thing that strikes me as blatantly unfair was the Archon King's "Devastate" ability.
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Basic Chunnel posted:They get a free move when every one of your guys does anything Anything that costs an action point, that is- abilities like Lightning Hands, the Alien Hunters axe throw, or the grappling hook all don't provoke Ruler Reactions. Conserving such abilities for the Ruler becomes vital.
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Jan 7, 2017 21:42
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Enable the mission to get the gear, but don't investigate the nest. It'll be explained in story as Bradford wanting to lead a rescue mission to get back your science chief from Xcom1, Vahlen.
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Bogart posted:Enable the mission to get the gear, but don't investigate the nest. It'll be explained in story as Bradford wanting to lead a rescue mission to get back your science chief from Xcom1, Vahlen. You can't upgrade the gear until you do the mission though so its all stuck at Ballistics tier.
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The thing I'm looking forward to the most in LW2 is giving every object in the game so many hit points that cover destruction becomes an in-joke among players, like "remember when grenades were useful l o l"
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None of the DLC is worth the full price but they are nice way to add some variety and challenge to the subsequent playthroughs.
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