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nawledgelambo: Nov 8, 2016; Immersion chariot

chochmah posted:

Seems like WTF's drunk antics haven't inflicted any lasting damages:
http://666kb.com/i/dfnahp8e8co096v7o.jpg

https://www.twitch.tv/thestaceyroy

she's just some dumb broad that uses her semi-good looks for viewership. Just go to the stream and listen to her try and play DnD. Granted, I have no loving clue how to play it, but if you're going to stream it, it might behoove you to know the rules

most of those viewers are viewbots anyways, rapeasaurus has been guilty of it before

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:13

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# ? May 15, 2024 16:43

Gerbil_Pen: Apr 6, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

nawledgelambo posted:

she's just some dumb broad that uses her semi-good looks for viewership. Just go to the stream and listen to her try and play DnD. Granted, I have no loving clue how to play it, but if you're going to stream it, it might behoove you to know the rules

most of those viewers are viewbots anyways, rapeasaurus has been guilty of it before

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:18

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

nawledgelambo posted:

she's just some dumb broad that uses her semi-good looks for viewership. Just go to the stream and listen to her try and play DnD. Granted, I have no loving clue how to play it, but if you're going to stream it, it might behoove you to know the rules

most of those viewers are viewbots anyways, rapeasaurus has been guilty of it before

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:19

nawledgelambo: Nov 8, 2016; Immersion chariot

https://clips.twitch.tv/thestaceyroy/RealPheasantShazBotstix

Basing her DnD character off her real life personality traits (no, that's not me, this is her setting up their DnD game), pretty telling imo

Also, lol at the captains table predicting SQ42 isn't coming this year and not believing what chris roberts says.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:21

Inkel: Feb 19, 2004; College Slice

On the topic of Twitch streamers - thanks to whoever posted Theonemanny a week ago. Animated dogge radio is great fun :kayak:

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:22

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA18oyyG-xg

lmao, watch this poo poo

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:32

A Neurotic Corncob: Nov 12, 2016; A light wind swept over the corn, and all nature laughed in the sunshine.

another shill article for the pile

http://www.pixelemonade.com/gaming/pc/star-citizen-3-0-release-date/

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:35

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

it's literally star citizen, but with a car

car citizen

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:35

Tarquinn: Jul 3, 2007; I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.; Hell Gem

Truga posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA18oyyG-xg

lmao, watch this poo poo

Clearly you don't understand automobile development. :colbert:

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:48

Xaerael: Aug 25, 2010; Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

Truga posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA18oyyG-xg

lmao, watch this poo poo

Paging moma. Your next big investment is here!

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:50

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

another shill article for the pile

http://www.pixelemonade.com/gaming/pc/star-citizen-3-0-release-date/

so bear with me here

in the real world, if say a company releases fake articles to boost their public image (and in the same turn boost stock price), it is highly illegal

how is it CIG is allowed to get away with releasing obviously 100% paid for articles, to boost their public image and rake in more money, for producing nothing?

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:53

Goobs: Jan 30, 2016; Doxcat is watching you PU.

Sappo569 posted:

so bear with me here

in the real world, if say a company releases fake articles to boost their public image (and in the same turn boost stock price), it is highly illegal

how is it CIG is allowed to get away with releasing obviously 100% paid for articles, to boost their public image and rake in more money, for producing nothing?

Propane and propane accessories.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:57

toanoradian: May 31, 2011; The happiest waffligator

Sabreseven posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNfxT22LC8A

The pretty 'cutscene' where the pilot actually gets a few shots off.

Thanks DS, I was wondering if it was possible to shoot at it

There's a video where somebody try to pilot their ship closer to it and end up colliding into them, destroying their ship. So it's a very interactive cutscene.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 02:58

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Truga posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA18oyyG-xg

lmao, watch this poo poo

"It's greatest achievement was having money and hiring people."

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:01

Kakarot: Jul 20, 2013; by zen death robot; Buglord

Thats a propaganda video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2VvFXCR3II

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:03

TontoCorazon: Aug 18, 2007

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It's a combination of factors:

1. Sunk cost mentality. Most of the more emphatic backers have put in hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars into "supporting" the game through the purchase of digital ships and game packages. The money itself becomes justification that things will succeed, as the backer considers themselves a smart person and smart people don't pay for scams. This is true for both the individual investment as well as the communal investment of over $140 million.

2. Cargo cult community. At this point the community is largely self-policing, aided by the draconian moderation of the main forums and the inherent structure of Reddit that silences unpopular opinions. They are convinced that Chris Roberts will deliver the promised game in the same way that they remember the original Wing Commander and Privateer with nostalgia. Anyone with a dissenting opinion is either ignored, or has already received a refund and is therefore unlikely to interact with those still immersed in the project.

3. Predatory marketing. CIG's marketing methods are incredibly predatory. They routinely use high pressure tactics surrounding "limited" features or content (LTI, concept sales, alpha access, limited ships) to encourage backers to spend more. They also wall off early access behind a subscription (subscribers get access to the Player Test Universe, the testing server updates go to before they hit the live testing server but after they hit the invite-only testing server), devalue previous purchases by offering cash-only sales, and push the concept of "open development" as a mantra even as they wait to reveal significant information such as delays or a major engine switch.

4. Chris Roberts. For whatever reason Chris Roberts has mastered the art of telling people what they want to hear, especially when it comes to nerds and space sims. Backers are convinced that the game Chris Roberts is developing will be their perfect game, even as more of the game is revealed and is shown to be a shallow, insipid, milquetoast experience. He has a history of doing this in a variety of fields, and backers are all too willing to fool themselves to believe they'll get what they want.

5. Lies. One of the biggest things that CIG has done is created the myth that the community supported CIG expanding the scope and schedule of Star Citizen through additional funding. In reality backers supported CIG expanding scope without increasing schedule through the use of additional funds to generate more content. CIG has repeated the lie so many times that backers believe it to be true.

Legit thank you for this rundown.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:04

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

another shill article for the pile

http://www.pixelemonade.com/gaming/pc/star-citizen-3-0-release-date/

65k views and its pushed to the top of the site's masthead. The second highest article has 4k views. This is a totally normal, and popular website.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:09

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Star Citizen is something between Faraday and 3D Head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SyD9phcids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjhIOgh10JA

Star Citizen the Space Sim Killer has latency so low you can't measure it, it's in the megahertz range :v:

(2:50)

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:12

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Hmm

Wonder how much it costs to have your article pushed to the top of the 'most commented' pile on a website, with 0 comments lol

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:16

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:19

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

another shill article for the pile

http://www.pixelemonade.com/gaming/pc/star-citizen-3-0-release-date/

Oh this is fun.

"These views appear to be in the vocal minority however as evidenced by the continued strong growth not only money raised through crowd funding but the size of the actual crowd itself. Since the project started and initial launch of crowdfunding on Kick-starter back in 2012, the number of �citizens� has grown to an incredible 1.7 million. Nearly two million people signing up to join �the verse� is no small achievement despite what detractors might argue."

Of those 1.7 million people only 1.2 million purchased starships, and a starship is required to play the game. Of those backers who actually supported the game (and the number of ships does not directly correlate with the number of backers as many backers have multiple ships), only 64,000 tried the "Last Stand" version of Star Marine and a little over 1,000 played Star Marine for more than six hours.

"The project weathered a PR nightmare when disgruntled ex employees leaked details of the CIG (Cloud Imperium Games) corporate culture to the media. They claimed Chris Roberts had to sign off on every step of the project and demanded control over every design element, game asset, character, concept and more. These alleged former employees were unhappy with how this level of micromanagement and control was holding up and unnecessarily delaying the project. While there is no doubt Star Citizen will be a generation defining title when it is complete, the challenge will be getting to that point � and getting to that point in a timely manner. The longer the project delays, the more polarised and unhappy elements of that community Roberts is building will become."

Note that the article fails to mention that the claims were never disproved, and several claims were actually confirmed by the VP of Marketing. Thanks again Sandi!

"It�s already clear a lot of what was teased at last year�s much hyped Alpha 3.0 demo is starting to take shape and will likely drop all at once."

Alternatively it could all be bullshit like Squadron 42.

"With AI Subsumption (allowing for the introduction of AI, crowds and AI driven behaviour) the verse will begin to feel less empty. Walking around Arc Corp or GrimHEX at the moment just doesn�t feel alive due to the complete lack of any NPCs."

Alternatively the AI could be bullshit like it's been for the last few years.

"Procedural planets promises full planetary landing and atmospheric flight with the tantalising idea that in the not to distant future (no pun intended) players will have the ability to construct basic buildings."

Alternatively the procedural planet generation could be bullshit.

"It�s the little details such as this which drive the funding goals of Star Citizen because they get gamers excited about experiencing not just a level or series of missions but the opportunity to experience an entire universe of possibility."

Replace "details" with "unsubstantiated wishes" and this would be correct.

"What intrigues about Star Citizen is not flying around blasting other players or NPCs in space battles but landing on a remote planet and just watching the sunset."

You can already do that in Elite. It's very pretty. What motivates backers is the promise of the game of their dreams.

"Intergalactic camping trips and just hanging out with friends exploring planets is just as valid a play style as bounty hunting or piracy."

This is true; all three play styles are equally impossible and therefore equally valid.

"If Star Citizen can stay on course as it has throughout 2016 then 2017 looks to be a promising year for not only the Star Citizen backers but PC gamers everywhere."

If Star Citizen maintains the same course in 2017 that it did in 2016 then CIG is hosed.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:25

ripptide: Jul 28, 2016

Truga posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA18oyyG-xg

lmao, watch this poo poo

Dang, you could pretty well replace "Faraday" with "CIG" and you'd hardly notice the difference.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:27

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

TontoCorazon posted:

Legit thank you for this rundown.

Happy to do it.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:28

Chin: Dec 12, 2005; GET LOST 2013
-RALPH

Kakarot posted:

Thats a propaganda video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2VvFXCR3II

"Apparently" it found a parking spot in a lot and backed in.

They claim it has a 300 mile range, uhhh they drove it around in a warehouse for a few minutes so it exists! "The wireless charging could be insane." Could be. All according to a dude who is famous for talking about iphones. "Why not be super optimistic about it?" "Cross your fingers!"

# ? Jan 8, 2017 03:37

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Oh this is fun.

"These views appear to be in the vocal minority however as evidenced by the continued strong growth not only money raised through crowd funding but the size of the actual crowd itself. Since the project started and initial launch of crowdfunding on Kick-starter back in 2012, the number of �citizens� has grown to an incredible 1.7 million. Nearly two million people signing up to join �the verse� is no small achievement despite what detractors might argue."

Of those 1.7 million people only 1.2 million purchased starships, and a starship is required to play the game. Of those backers who actually supported the game (and the number of ships does not directly correlate with the number of backers as many backers have multiple ships), only 64,000 tried the "Last Stand" version of Star Marine and a little over 1,000 played Star Marine for more than six hours.

"The project weathered a PR nightmare when disgruntled ex employees leaked details of the CIG (Cloud Imperium Games) corporate culture to the media. They claimed Chris Roberts had to sign off on every step of the project and demanded control over every design element, game asset, character, concept and more. These alleged former employees were unhappy with how this level of micromanagement and control was holding up and unnecessarily delaying the project. While there is no doubt Star Citizen will be a generation defining title when it is complete, the challenge will be getting to that point � and getting to that point in a timely manner. The longer the project delays, the more polarised and unhappy elements of that community Roberts is building will become."

Note that the article fails to mention that the claims were never disproved, and several claims were actually confirmed by the VP of Marketing. Thanks again Sandi!

"It�s already clear a lot of what was teased at last year�s much hyped Alpha 3.0 demo is starting to take shape and will likely drop all at once."

Alternatively it could all be bullshit like Squadron 42.

"With AI Subsumption (allowing for the introduction of AI, crowds and AI driven behaviour) the verse will begin to feel less empty. Walking around Arc Corp or GrimHEX at the moment just doesn�t feel alive due to the complete lack of any NPCs."

Alternatively the AI could be bullshit like it's been for the last few years.

"Procedural planets promises full planetary landing and atmospheric flight with the tantalising idea that in the not to distant future (no pun intended) players will have the ability to construct basic buildings."

Alternatively the procedural planet generation could be bullshit.

"It�s the little details such as this which drive the funding goals of Star Citizen because they get gamers excited about experiencing not just a level or series of missions but the opportunity to experience an entire universe of possibility."

Replace "details" with "unsubstantiated wishes" and this would be correct.

"What intrigues about Star Citizen is not flying around blasting other players or NPCs in space battles but landing on a remote planet and just watching the sunset."

You can already do that in Elite. It's very pretty. What motivates backers is the promise of the game of their dreams.

"Intergalactic camping trips and just hanging out with friends exploring planets is just as valid a play style as bounty hunting or piracy."

This is true; all three play styles are equally impossible and therefore equally valid.

"If Star Citizen can stay on course as it has throughout 2016 then 2017 looks to be a promising year for not only the Star Citizen backers but PC gamers everywhere."

If Star Citizen maintains the same course in 2017 that it did in 2016 then CIG is hosed.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:01

Sabreseven: Feb 27, 2016

ripptide posted:

Dang, you could pretty well replace "Faraday" with "CIG" and you'd hardly notice the difference.

Watched the vid, one quote I found quite apt:

"If you're an investor, you're hosed!" - An ex-executive for that company.

How long before this happens some big shot with 6 digits in CIG pulls out regretting his actions faster than *insert random exceptionally bad person's biological father* should have.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:13

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

"The project weathered a PR nightmare when disgruntled ex employees leaked details of the CIG (Cloud Imperium Games) corporate culture to the media. They claimed Chris Roberts had to sign off on every step of the project and demanded control over every design element, game asset, character, concept and more. These alleged former employees were unhappy with how this level of micromanagement and control was holding up and unnecessarily delaying the project. While there is no doubt Star Citizen will be a generation defining title when it is complete, the challenge will be getting to that point – and getting to that point in a timely manner. The longer the project delays, the more polarised and unhappy elements of that community Roberts is building will become."

Note that the article fails to mention that the claims were never disproved, and several claims were actually confirmed by the VP of Marketing. Thanks again Sandi!

By using the term "leaked" they are implicitly admitting the claims are true because if they were false they wouldn't be leaks.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:24

Conspiratiorist: Nov 12, 2015; 17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the ~~fifth~~ ~~sixth~~ some day

Sabreseven posted:

Watched the vid, one quote I found quite apt:

"If you're an investor, you're hosed!" - An ex-executive for that company.

How long before this happens some big shot with 6 digits in CIG pulls out regretting his actions faster than *insert random exceptionally bad person's biological father* should have.

Bootcha already pulled out.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:34

Samizdata: May 14, 2007

ManofManyAliases posted:

Prove otherwise big boy.

Well, we know for SURE now MoMA is a member of the Citizenry...

# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:35

Samizdata: May 14, 2007

Also, called out Ben today as promised, as he had yet to say ANYTHING to me about the WC:A stills.

See what happens from here.

(Had to composite two Tweets for ease of reading.)

# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:53

Sunswipe: Feb 5, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Obvious spelling error in the thread title at the moment. It should of course read Star Citizen: It's a fancy cult scene.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:03

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

another shill article for the pile

http://www.pixelemonade.com/gaming/pc/star-citizen-3-0-release-date/

http://whois.domaintools.com/pixelemonade.com

An article from a site registered less than 5 days ago that claims 66210 Views on the article published about Star Citizen today. Alongside 5 random articles about Trump, tennis, and a Syrian car bomb.

I don't know what you guys are talking about, Star Citizen is clearly just making big waves in journalist circles.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:05

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Oh hey guess what else is hosted at the same IP?

http://www.andrewmahermarketing.com/

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:07

TheLastRoboKy: May 2, 2009; Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Sarsapariller posted:

http://whois.domaintools.com/pixelemonade.com

An article from a site registered less than 5 days ago that claims 66210 Views on the article published about Star Citizen today. Alongside 5 random articles about Trump, tennis, and a Syrian car bomb.

I don't know what you guys are talking about, Star Citizen is clearly just making big waves in journalist circles.

If this gets any shadier I'm gonna use it to escape the summer sun.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:07

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Samizdata posted:

Also, called out Ben today as promised, as he had yet to say ANYTHING to me about the WC:A stills.

See what happens from here.

(Had to composite two Tweets for ease of reading.)

It's hard to say "I lied" but it's super easy to actually lie. Ironic.

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:12

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

Sarsapariller posted:

Oh hey guess what else is hosted at the same IP?

http://www.andrewmahermarketing.com/

sandis nephew, how quaint

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:12

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Sarsapariller posted:

Oh hey guess what else is hosted at the same IP?

http://www.andrewmahermarketing.com/

It's a miracle!

# ? Jan 8, 2017 05:14

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

TheAgent posted:

sandis nephew, how quaint

I don't know what you're talking about sir, he is clearly the editor in chief of this dignified publication. (Note that he is also credited as the author on every single other story, except this one)
http://www.pixelemonade.com/contact-us/