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Besesoth posted:Some people learn "commas are a pause in the sentence" and take that to mean that any time you might pause in speech - say, for effect - you put a comma there. (pyf unnerving grammar habit) Which is totally acceptable when you're writing text that is supposed to mimic speech or dialect. It has no place in an article because that's one of the few place English has hard and fast rules you should at least try and follow.
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Besesoth posted:Some people learn "commas are a pause in the sentence" and take that to mean that any time you might pause in speech - say, for effect - you put a comma there. (pyf unnerving grammar habit) dash is not emdash.
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Besesoth posted:Some people learn "commas are a pause in the sentence" and take that to mean that any time you might pause in speech - say, for effect - you put a comma there. (pyf unnerving grammar habit) I'm, gay
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flosofl posted:dash is not emdash. Hyphen‐minus is not em dash. FTFY
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Platystemon posted:Hyphen‐minus is not em dash. Now I'm wondering if SA will render an em dash with double hyphen--nope—but it will if you cut and paste.
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correction of egregiously bad use of commas Removed some commas incorrectly placed rm extraneous commas copyedit, especially for wild comma use Removed extra commas from "Tammy and the Bachelor" item Removed several extra commas in second full paragraph Corrected excessive comma use Further readability edits, also incorporating inline citations and remove extraneous commas Excess commas removed Removed the Incorrect and pretentious commas of the poorly educated author. Removed excessive use of commas to improve readability If, you're bored, it's Chitt66 that's making GBS threads, up Wikipedia, with commas Smith stated he had heard stories from his grandfather, older pioneers, and those who had interviewed two of the Harpe wives. One of his stories was, that the Harpe brothers were actually cousins, William and Joshua Harper, who would, sometime later take the alias Harpe, [[immigration|emigrated]], in 1759 or 1760, at a young age, from Scotland. Their fathers were brothers, John and William Harper, who settled in Orange County, North Carolina, between 1761 and 1763. The Harper patriarchs were loyal to the British Crown and were known as [[Cavalier|Royalists]], [[Loyalist (American Revolution)|Kings Men]], Loyalists, and Tories and may also, have been [[War of the Regulation|regulators]] involved in the North Carolina [[War of the Regulation|Regulator War]]. The anti-British Crown neighbors, of the Harpers, were known as [[Patriot (American Revolution)|Whigs]], Rebels, and Patriots. Around April or May, 1775, the young Harper cousins left North Carolina and went to Virginia to find [[wikt:overseer|overseer]] jobs on a [[plantation economy|slave plantation]].
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Solice Kirsk posted:Well, this outta kill a bunch of airport time tomorrow. Cool link, thanks! Well the bolded in retrospect was very foreboding.
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Solice Kirsk posted:One of the Harpe brothers smashed his baby against a tree because it was crying. Don't know which one. Big Harpe. Here's an excellent article on the murderous family: (scroll down) https://www.kyhumanities.org/images/files/magazines/2005AprilKentuckyHumanities.pdf
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Pretty much this. Both Pits and Boxers are often bought by angry assholes who want "tough" looking dogs, but the American Kennel Club rates (or at least used to, IDK if they change these things) the Boxer/Pitbull cross as one of the best family dogs you can get. My neighbors used to have one and not only was that dog super huge and friendly, it also let their 4 year old climb all over it, pull it's ears and sleep on top of it. They do change those things. Currently they have a breed finder, where they try to match your lifestyle to the right breed of dog. As a rule Boxers are dolls who love kids.
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flosofl posted:dash is not emdash. Print publishing conventions are not grammar rules. 
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One enduring mystery that hasn’t come up on this thread (recently) is that of Everett Ruess. He was a precocious young artist and writer who had had some success with his prints. He came from a Christian family which encouraged his talents. He travelled widely, often alone in wilderness regions, committing his impressions to journals and poems. He travelled widely throughout the US South and Southwest accompanied only by a donkey and occasionally a local guide. Even by the age of 20, he had achieved a minor reputation as a skilled artist and had exhibited and sold art. The art was usually views of the places he visited. In 1934 he set out on a trek in Escalante canyon, Utah, a very remote region. It was the site of ancient Indian villages, which Ruess knew about and wanted to visit. His burro was later found, as were some of his possessions, but Ruess was never seen again. There are various theories about what happened to him, including falls, drowning, murder by Navajo, cowboys, rustlers or Mormons. There is the possibility of suicide. Ruess was apparently unhappy and depressed. A lot of attention has been paid to passages in previous journals that seem to indicate repressed homosexual desire. One of the few traces of him in the canyon was carved graffiti “nemo” (meaning “no one”). Of course, if anyone depressed ever disappears then suicide is automatically goes to the top of the list of causes, even if the death might have been accidental or foulplay. In 2009 bones were tested for DNA but they proved a negative match for Ruess. Many of letters, journals and art work have been published. There have been many articles and books about him. (BTW, any recommendations about good ones?) Anyone have ideas? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_Ruess
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Probably fell or got lost and didn't make it back to his donkey, which decided to amble back towards civilization when he didn't turn up to feed it.
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Depends on where exactly he was i guess but thats easily one of the deadliest places in the US. Wild tempature swings, flash floods, and without water im not sure you would last much more than a day. Even if you did you would have to be rescued. In the 30's surviving this region would have been pretty challenging without leaning on the locals, and they arent always very nice. When i went there i heard story after story of local blood feuds between ranchers in the area that happened around this time. I dont know how true it all is but there were numerous mineral pools that were geysers until a jealous neighbor dropped a stack of dynamite down the hole.
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flosofl posted:You're right. Hyphen is smaller than "en dash" which is smaller than "em dash" look at this guy copy/pasting his special characters like a scrub who doesn't know about html entities. i'm unnerved. duTrieux. has a new favorite as of 04:54 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20170108_Arrest_expected_tonight_in_Abington_teen_s_dismemberment.html?mobi=true That story is too hosed up to even read the whole way through. My god they go into some gruesome and disturbing details that have no right to be reported on some random news site. That's an absolutely distasteful article.
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fizzymercy posted:That story is too hosed up to even read the whole way through. My god they go into some gruesome and disturbing details that have no right to be reported on some random news site. That's an absolutely distasteful article. I didn't have a problem with it, but it is like reading the murderers statement how detailed they go into it.
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Maybe I've just become desensitized to this kind of stuff, because that seemed like a pretty simple and straightforward description of a horrific crime. I've definitely read much more graphic descriptions of similar things in newspaper and magazine articles.
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the future is WOW posted:Maybe I've just become desensitized to this kind of stuff, because that seemed like a pretty simple and straightforward description of a horrific crime. I've definitely read much more graphic descriptions of similar things in newspaper and magazine articles. Meh, her death could have been more horrible. 5/10. Yeah, this thing you just said is pretty crazy.
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Packing a body in kitty litter is pretty clever. Would sop up the dead body....juices and keep the stink down. I don't think I've ever read about any other killers doing that. It would leave a ton of messy kitty litter full of evidence though.
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It's always bothered me how detailed the Wikipedia page for the Port Arthur massacre is. It's not gory, just much more specific than seems necessary. Looking at several other pages for Australia spree shooting/massacres a few others are similar, moment-by-moment timelines. Part of it is because PA is one I have a connection to, and it feels a little disrespectful (though I went and watched the police video when I was younger). But is it really encyclopedia-worthy that (different page, "Hoddle Street massacre")quote:At about 4.50pm Knight went to see an old girlfriend in Clifton Hill in order to give her a magazine. He only stayed at her flat for about five minutes then he continued to drive aimlessly around the area. Minutes later the gearbox of his car – his only asset – jammed and stuck in second gear. He limped the car home, where he changed clothes and drank another can of beer before walking angrily around to the nearby Royal Hotel, his local pub, at around 5.30pm. None of Knight's friends were at the Royal Hotel so he drank alone in the public bar from around 5.32pm to about 8.55pm. At around 8.50pm Knight began to feel the effects of the beer he'd been drinking and he had a "vision" of soldiers being ambushed. He felt as if it was a "call to arms" and at about 8.55pm he rushed from the hotel and ran back to his mother's house. Instead of quote:Bryant finished his meal, walked into the café and returned his tray, assisted by some people who opened the door for him. He put his bag down on a table and pulled a Colt AR-15 SP1 Carbine with a Colt scope and one 30-round magazine attached out of the bag. He left the bag which contained, among other things, the knife with which he had stabbed Martin, on the table. It is believed the magazine was partially emptied from the shootings at Seascape.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Packing a body in kitty litter is pretty clever. Would sop up the dead body....juices and keep the stink down. I don't think I've ever read about any other killers doing that. It would leave a ton of messy kitty litter full of evidence though. Somewhere in some government agency there is a guy who reads poo poo on the internet and maybe adds them to a watch list. You just got added to like twelve different lists my man.
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funmanguy posted:Somewhere in some government agency there is a guy who reads poo poo on the internet and maybe adds them to a watch list. You just got added to like twelve different lists my man. It's true, I"m in charge of lists 101 and 253.
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What's going on in here? People are unnerved and grossed out by articles in a thread dedicated to unnerving and terrible things? Why, I never!
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uvar posted:It's always bothered me how detailed the Wikipedia page for the Port Arthur massacre is. It's not gory, just much more specific than seems necessary. Looking at several other pages for Australia spree shooting/massacres a few others are similar, moment-by-moment timelines. Part of it is because PA is one I have a connection to, and it feels a little disrespectful (though I went and watched the police video when I was younger). But is it really encyclopedia-worthy that (different page, "Hoddle Street massacre") Something that bothers me more are the Port Arthur conspiracies. quote:The killer scored twenty head shots, from the right hip, in 90 seconds! There are only about 20 shooters that good (better than Olympians) in the Western World. They are the SPOOKS who work for various governments.
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From Wikipedia on the Harpe brothers: quote:They were also accused of murdering a man named Johnson, whose body was found in a river, covered in urine and ripped open, with the chest cavity filled and weighted down with stones. How is it possible to be covered in urine while underwater? This makes no sense.
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pookel posted:How is it possible to be covered in urine while underwater? This makes no sense. I'd like to think he was crystallized in it, like a prehistoric insect in amber.
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uvar posted:It's always bothered me how detailed the Wikipedia page for the Port Arthur massacre is. It's not gory, just much more specific than seems necessary. Looking at several other pages for Australia spree shooting/massacres a few others are similar, moment-by-moment timelines. Part of it is because PA is one I have a connection to, and it feels a little disrespectful (though I went and watched the police video when I was younger). But is it really encyclopedia-worthy that (different page, "Hoddle Street massacre") I guess because it was a significant trial with a massive political impact and the minute-by-minute breakdown was part of the gun control debate. Though the opposite is the case with the Snowtown murders page, one of the most publicised trials in Australian history, where someone has dramatically shortened the article and edited out all the descriptions of torture etc since the last iteration of this thread (probably for the best though). I was looking for a half decent longform on the matter and the results were kinda lol  Anyway, on to something non-murder related: Herpes B virus has a high fatality rate. quote:Herpes simian B virus (Macacine herpesvirus 1 (formerly Cercopithecine herpesvirus 1, CHV-1[1]), Herpesvirus simiae, B virus) is the endemic simplexvirus of macaque monkeys. B virus is an alphaherpesvirus, which consists of a subset of herpes viruses that travel within hosts using the peripheral nerves. As such, this neurotropic virus is not found in the blood. quote:A Drop of Virus From a Monkey Kills a Researcher in 6 Weeks
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uvar posted:wouldn't it be sufficient to just say "Bryant killed X people and wounded Y others in the café" and just link to the court transcript and books you're practically transcribing? Part of it is probably because the coroner and investigation for Port Arthur was documented to an extreme level, beyond what a normal single homicide would have been. I suspect the Norway version that happened later is similarly detailed.
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Dachshundofdoom posted:I'd like to think he was crystallized in it, like a prehistoric Piss Christ. FTFY
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Ariong posted:Meh, her death could have been more horrible. 5/10. Did you miss the part where I called it horrific? I was talking about the description in the article and not the crime itself. I've been working on a true crime television series for just over 10 years now so every week I have to hear and see fairly graphic descriptions of absolutely horrible crimes (sometimes similar to this one, sometimes worse). This is probably why the writing in the article didn't seem as graphic and distasteful to me as it did to others.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Packing a body in kitty litter is pretty clever. Would sop up the dead body....juices and keep the stink down. I don't think I've ever read about any other killers doing that. It would leave a ton of messy kitty litter full of evidence though. i saw a csi or similar show episode where the corpse gets packed in a box with silica gel packets
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Comstar posted:Part of it is probably because the coroner and investigation for Port Arthur was documented to an extreme level, beyond what a normal single homicide would have been. I suspect the Norway version that happened later is similarly detailed. The Utøya attack isn't quite that in depth , but the Columbine one is exactly as unnervingly dissected - at times down to their actions at individual seconds.
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Jose posted:i saw a csi or similar show episode where the corpse gets packed in a box with silica gel packets I'm sure the character had a source for them, but I'm imagining someone painstakingly collecting them from shoeboxes in stores for ages before they have enough to hide a murder.
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uvar posted:wouldn't it be sufficient to just say "Bryant killed X people and wounded Y others in the café" and just link to the court transcript and books you're practically transcribing? I agree that Wikipedia pages should be kept as free from needless detail as possible. We should go even further and reduce entries like this one to "A bad thing happened."
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Loucks posted:I agree that Wikipedia pages should be kept as free from needless detail as possible. We should go even further and reduce entries like this one to "A bad thing happened." "How bad was this incident? Bad, or bad-bad?" "It's gone all the way to bad-bad-bad-badbad."
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HairyManling posted:What's going on in here? People are unnerved and grossed out by articles in a thread dedicated to unnerving and terrible things? Why, I never! It's more that "unnerving" implies a more subtle emotional effect than "viscerally horrifying" and also that there's a bit of a… gulf between the two.
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Leavemywife posted:"How bad was this incident? Bad, or bad-bad?" "The wind up, and the pitch" "Werewolf?"
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Solice Kirsk posted:"The wind up, and the pitch" "A goddamn warrwulf"
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