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I knock points down for any movie which kills off a character played by an actor from the good HBO shows. John Wick has Clarke Peters get shot in the face after 60 seconds screen-time, and I'll dare hope the sequel doesn't mess with Ian McShane or Lance Reddick.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:John Wick has Clarke Peters get shot in the face after 60 seconds screen-time This is the only flaw in an otherwise perfect movie. The fan edit of the star wars prequels that cuts them down to about 2 movies worth total really help make them into better movies. Maybe not good, but definitely watchable.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I knock points down for any movie which kills off a character played by an actor from the good HBO shows. John Wick has Clarke Peters get shot in the face after 60 seconds screen-time, and I'll dare hope the sequel doesn't mess with Ian McShane or Lance Reddick. Contrariwise you have poor Alfie Allen, now a murderer of dogs. In GoT he was nearly murdered by dogs but in either show you just kind of wanted to watch him die. How must it suck to be That Guy that everyone wants to see dead, like edge of the seat style.
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Jan 9, 2017 21:08
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Fun Terminator fact: Cameron's first choice for the role of the Terminator (or at least someone he strongly considered before Arnie was cast) was actually Lance Henrisken. That would have been interesting. I believe the idea was that the Terminator wouldn't stand out in a crowd, which is obviously more the direction he ended up going with T2.
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Jan 9, 2017 21:15
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Wheat Loaf posted:Fun Terminator fact: Cameron's first choice for the role of the Terminator (or at least someone he strongly considered before Arnie was cast) was actually Lance Henrisken. That would have been interesting. I believe the idea was that the Terminator wouldn't stand out in a crowd, which is obviously more the direction he ended up going with T2. I remember reading the anecdote about JC and Lance busting into an office and Lance was decked out in the leathers holding a prop gun. So uh can we sell this concept?
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Jan 9, 2017 21:25
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syscall girl posted:Contrariwise you have poor Alfie Allen, now a murderer of dogs. He was pretty great in Misfits.
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Jan 9, 2017 22:27
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I remember when From Dusk Til Dawn came out, we thought we were going to get Pulp Fiction with a side serve of El Mariachi. The vampires twist hit us so hard it gave some folks whiplash.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Fun Terminator fact: Cameron's first choice for the role of the Terminator (or at least someone he strongly considered before Arnie was cast) was actually Lance Henrisken. That would have been interesting. I believe the idea was that the Terminator wouldn't stand out in a crowd, which is obviously more the direction he ended up going with T2. OJ Simpson was also considered for the role, according to page 4 of the special edition DVD: Terminator DVD posted:The role of the Terminator was originally going to be portrayed by O. J. Simpson. But, according to (James) Cameron in 1984, "people wouldn't have believed a nice guy like O. J. playing the part of a ruthless killer."
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Jan 9, 2017 22:31
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There's a pretty long history of movie studios not understanding how to market their movies. Not saying thats what happened with FDTD, because nobody has been able to show otherwise, but it's not exactly unheard of. Best example is with Princess Bride. (On my mind because I just finished reading Cary Elwes book) Rob Reiner made the movie and the studio had no loving clue how to market the movie and it wound up making GBS threads in the bed in the theatres. It didn't become popular until it was released on VHS.
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My favourite thing about Terminator 2 is that Robert Patrick is more badass than Arnold Schwarzenegger. When Arnold/T800 fires his guns you see him flinch, his eyes close with every shot. Robert Patrick/T1000 fires his guns and keeps his eyes trained on the target, no flinching, no blinking. That's pretty cool. Robert Patrick is a better robot than the professional robot. 
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Jan 9, 2017 23:07
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Olaf The Stout posted:He was pretty great in Misfits. Save me, Barry!
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Jan 9, 2017 23:24
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Olaf The Stout posted:He was pretty great in Misfits. If only he got more screentime.
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ubachung posted:If only he got more screentime. Barry had tons of screen time
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bobkatt013 posted:Barry had tons of screen time Yeah but I'm pretty sure he was played by David Mitchell.
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Jan 10, 2017 00:46
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BioEnchanted posted:My favourite thing about Terminator 2 is that Robert Patrick is more badass than Arnold Schwarzenegger. When Arnold/T800 fires his guns you see him flinch, his eyes close with every shot. Robert Patrick/T1000 fires his guns and keeps his eyes trained on the target, no flinching, no blinking. That's pretty cool. Robert Patrick is a better robot than the professional robot. He's right up there with Keanu Reeves. They both trained for hours and hours and hours to not flinch or blink when firing a gun even though they didn't have to. That sort of dedication shows.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I knock points down for any movie which kills off a character played by an actor from the good HBO shows. John Wick has Clarke Peters get shot in the face after 60 seconds screen-time, and I'll dare hope the sequel doesn't mess with Ian McShane or Lance Reddick. I'd be okay if Wick2 brought him back and he just shrugs and says, "She missed." as explanation.
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BioEnchanted posted:My favourite thing about Terminator 2 is that Robert Patrick is more badass than Arnold Schwarzenegger. When Arnold/T800 fires his guns you see him flinch, his eyes close with every shot. Robert Patrick/T1000 fires his guns and keeps his eyes trained on the target, no flinching, no blinking. That's pretty cool. Robert Patrick is a better robot than the professional robot. I know, right? Now how can I have an IIMM about Val Kilmer in Heat?
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Jan 10, 2017 01:13
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syscall girl posted:Contrariwise you have poor Alfie Allen, now a murderer of dogs. Jack Gleeson plays Prince Joffrey on GoT and said people would yell abuse at him on the streets  I think he quit acting after finishing up on the show, though I don't know if it was because of the abuse or because he wanted to go study/do something else with his life while he was still young or a combination of all of them.
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Jan 10, 2017 01:33
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Olaf The Stout posted:He was pretty great in Misfits. Apart from not actually being in Misfits. That was the dick-chopper, not the dick-choppee. And yeah, Jack Gleeson quit acting once he was done with GOT and went to university.
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Jan 10, 2017 01:52
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Jerusalem posted:Jack Gleeson plays Prince Joffrey on GoT and said people would yell abuse at him on the streets Man, him and Jake Lloyd can form a support group.
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Jan 10, 2017 01:58
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syscall girl posted:I know, right? What was wrong with Val Kilmer in Heat?
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Jerusalem posted:Jack Gleeson plays Prince Joffrey on GoT and said people would yell abuse at him on the streets Jack Gleeson is a gods damned genius and I wish him well with his not doing acting anymore. He's the entire reason I started watching the show and then reading the books. That kid will cure cancer.
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Jan 10, 2017 02:35
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pr0zac posted:What was wrong with Val Kilmer in Heat? I meant the other guy was having an IIMM about something they liked Val Kilmer in Heat did some gun things that were pretty cool
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bobkatt013 posted:Barry had tons of screen time Oh poo poo, that was that guy! I somehow never knew. I loved Misfits and thought that guy looked really familiar.
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WampaLord posted:Man, him and Jake Lloyd can form a support group. One was too good at his job, the other was...Annie.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I was spoiled on the twist but I still loved it. Also the movie is old enough that neither Underworld nor Twilight existed yet, so the idea of sexy vampires in skin-tight bodysuits or sparkly high-school angst golems wasn't something that had crossed anyone's mind yet. Len posted:With Terminator 2 that may have been but I saw the second well before the first, and long after the marketing, and at no point did Arnold ever strike me as bad guy. pr0zac posted:The fan edit of the star wars prequels that cuts them down to about 2 movies worth total really help make them into better movies. Maybe not good, but definitely watchable.
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Jan 10, 2017 03:23
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pr0zac posted:What was wrong with Val Kilmer in Heat? Well it's not "wrong" but apart from the absolutely extraordinary dinner scene, a lot of people claimed that Kilmer largely outacted DeNiro and Pacino in that film, the marketing of which was primarily based on,"See DeNiro and Pacino on-screen together at last!" But then there is the dinner scene which is out of this world good to make sure the world is back on an even keel.
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I don't always mind bad marketing. It's refreshing to be pleasantly surprised by a movie instead of disappointed.
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Jerusalem posted:Well it's not "wrong" but apart from the absolutely extraordinary dinner scene, a lot of people claimed that Kilmer largely outacted DeNiro and Pacino in that film, the marketing of which was primarily based on,"See DeNiro and Pacino on-screen together at last!" Yeah I remember Heat as mostly the DeNiro and Pacino stuff which makes sense if you saw the Godfather movies and cared about them. But the shootout scene where Kilmer does a perfect urban commando precision reload taking cover and keeping heads down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc
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WampaLord posted:Man, him and Jake Lloyd can form a support group. Jake Lloyd is currently involved with lots of support groups. Dude has serious mental illness
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I wish no ill to Jake Lloyd, but it seems like it was way too much pressure and attention put on a kid that young for a movie that huge at the time, especially since it was destined to be a one-off performance. I still contend, though, that the entirety of Episode One could have just worked better as an "Episode Zero" project in some expanded universe video medium like cartoon miniseries, webisodes or DTV release prior to the release of an Episode 1 with more in common with Episode 2 than The Phantom Menace. But I don't think 1999 had the market for such things, yet ironically the Clone Wars shows much later seemed to have no problem finding some positive fan reaction in filling in gaps in the universe between films.
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From the special edition DVD I remember that Terminator 2 had three stage marketing. First they revealed the Terminator was back, then some time later that there were two of them, and finally that the T-800 was the good guy. I can't remember if that was solely the marketing department's idea but I seem to recall Cameron had at least a hand in it.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I wish no ill to Jake Lloyd, Me too quote:but it seems like it was way too much pressure and attention put on a kid that young for a movie that huge at the time, especially since it was destined to be a one-off performance. I still contend, though, that the entirety of Episode One could have just worked better as an "Episode Zero" project in some expanded universe video medium like cartoon miniseries, webisodes or DTV release prior to the release of an Episode 1 with more in common with Episode 2 than The Phantom Menace. I don't think George Lucas had plans on reliving his glory years making cartoons or EU poo poo though.
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Jerusalem posted:Jack Gleeson plays Prince Joffrey on GoT and said people would yell abuse at him on the streets This kind of poo poo is very old, people are dumb as hell. Fred MacMurray said he got yelled at on the street after The Apartment came out and that was almost 60 years ago.
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syscall girl posted:I don't think George Lucas had plans on reliving his glory years making cartoons or EU poo poo though. I'm not saying using that to replace the movies, though, but rather take advantage of using expanded media in some more mainstream and visible way to fill in the story before and during the film series. But in 1997-1999, I don't think there was any venue or audience there for something like that, yet. It didn't seem like until the Matrix video games and Animatrix where they were making such a big deal about all this extra media being the official extra history and continuity of the franchise when people started to see some more value in it.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm not saying using that to replace the movies, though, but rather take advantage of using expanded media in some more mainstream and visible way to fill in the story before and during the film series. Oh man now I want to watch the Animatrix.
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syscall girl posted:Oh man now I want to watch the Animatrix. Better that than watching Matrix 2 & 3
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starkebn posted:Better that than watching Matrix 2 & 3 What are you even talking about. That rave scene was kicking rad!
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Bates posted:What are you even talking about. That rave scene was kicking rad! #honry14yrolds
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Talking about trailers spoiling the movie- How to Train your Dragon 2, unless the marketing was making fun of the Empire Strikes Back, it seems a stupid and wasteful decision to reveal something that didn't need to be revealed in the trailer. Then again, the movie was pretty crappy compared to the first one, so spoiling act 2 may not have mattered much anyway.
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