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Veotax posted:Nope, after the credits roll you get a page of text that amounts to 'congrats on finishing the game!' and it drops you back into the game in the Normandy's CIC, some characters even have special dialogue for talking to them after finishing the game. Goddammit, what? Anything interesting, or is it just random "ha ha wow, that sure was a giant metal baby we killed, eh, Shepard?"
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Zaeed's loyalty mission has a special option that is only available if you do it post-game too.
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Jan 9, 2017 22:18
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Drifter posted:Goddammit, what? Mostly stuff like everyone having the same opinion on saving/destroying the base (everyone thinks you made a mistake if you save it for Cerberus, even Miranda and Jacob), also your talk with Liara at the end of Shadow Broker will talk about the Collector base and how many people died.
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Jan 9, 2017 22:22
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Zaeed's loyalty mission has a special option that is only available if you do it post-game too. Wait, really?
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Arcsquad12 posted:Wait, really? Oh yes. 
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Jan 9, 2017 22:27
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If you take the Paragon path you can leave him to burn to death under the rubble he gets trapped under. Sucks that it's locked to post game, though.
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How is that paragon?
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Couldn't you leave him to die anyway, even before you beat the game?
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Jan 9, 2017 22:35
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Olaf The Stout posted:How is that paragon? They mean you have to take the paragon path through the facility, not that that particular choice is paragon.
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Jan 9, 2017 22:39
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Drifter posted:Couldn't you leave him to die anyway, even before you beat the game? No. Only post-game. You just wouldn't get his loyalty before.
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Olaf The Stout posted:How is that paragon?
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Olaf The Stout posted:How is that paragon? Paragon is the good choice and killing Zaeed is good as hell.
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So who definitely dies if you leave their loyalty mission until after the suicide mission and who can survive leaving it like Zaeed can?
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Dan Didio posted:Paragon is the good choice and killing Zaeed is good as hell. I disagree, Dan. All the choices in the Mass Effect trilogy (and, probably, the next game) are good.
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Helith posted:So who definitely dies if you leave their loyalty mission until after the suicide mission and who can survive leaving it like Zaeed can? I suppose you'll need at least one tech specialist and strong biotic loyal for those parts, maybe one commander loyal to keep your specialist alive during part one but Miranda is invincible until holding the line/final boss so a non-loyal Miranda can survive leading the fire-team in part two. I believe you final squad has to be loyal or the non-loyal ones will die and non-loyal escorts for the Normandy crew will die. Holding the line just comes down to maths. I don't think any one character has to be loyal to survive, it just depends on who else is loyal.
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Helith posted:So who definitely dies if you leave their loyalty mission until after the suicide mission and who can survive leaving it like Zaeed can? Some of your specific specialists have to be loyal to survive, as do your final companions, but you can keep some non-loyal people alive (possibly at the expense of others, ie Mordin) because of the way Hold the Line works.
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And, weirdly, at the very end some comps will kill a loyal squad member, even with everyone else loyal. I brought Garrus and Miranda for the baby reaper fight and Mordin died for some reason. There's a flow chart that explains, I'm sure
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Lurks Morington posted:And, weirdly, at the very end some comps will kill a loyal squad member, even with everyone else loyal. I brought Garrus and Miranda for the baby reaper fight and Mordin died for some reason. There's a flow chart that explains, I'm sure There is. Lots of the choices in the suicide mission are binary (or at least a series of binary choices), but the Hold the Line section gives everyone on the team a score and if the average isn't high enough (due to loyalty or general competence) then people die in order, with Mordin being the first to die. It's probably the easiest place to lose a party member. 
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Lurks Morington posted:And, weirdly, at the very end some comps will kill a loyal squad member, even with everyone else loyal. I brought Garrus and Miranda for the baby reaper fight and Mordin died for some reason. There's a flow chart that explains, I'm sure Mordin's got a very low Hold the Line score while Garrus has one of the best. It averages the people left behind and kills people if the average is below a certain amount. Mordin also dies first. You need 18 points on the people left behind and both you bring with you to be loyal. You'd never want to bring Garrus/Grunt/Zaeed because they all give 3 points So Loyal Tali and Loyal Jack for the boss and the Biotic/Tech sections. Then 3 more of your choice (one needs to be Garrus/Miranda/Grunt) would get everyone out alive with 5 loyalty missions total. You want Jack and Tali over Samara/Legion because the latter two have innately better Hold the Line scores and you want to take 2 of Mordin/Tali/Kasumi/Jack to the boss anyways so they don't drag down your score. Zore fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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And if you're worried about Mordin dying, you can just send him back with the crew and he'll be fine.
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So, if we're maximising post game loyalty missions where we can take Legion as a party member, then having Kasumi loyal for the end game works because you do that mission with just you and her anyway. Also Samara's and Thane's missions don't involve a third squaddie so you could do those too. Tali's you can take Legion to before the suicide mission as well usually. So you could use Legion or Tali for the vents and Samara for the biotics.
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The fewest people I ever survived with was Zaeed (disloyal and left to Hold the Line by himself) and a loyal Jacob. I brought disloyal Miranda to the final boss and let her die, and then Jacob and Zaeed pulled me aboard. That was a fun run, mathing out how to get as many people as possible killed without also killing Shepard.
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Helith posted:So, if we're maximising post game loyalty missions where we can take Legion as a party member, then having Kasumi loyal for the end game works because you do that mission with just you and her anyway. Also Samara's and Thane's missions don't involve a third squaddie so you could do those too. Tali's you can take Legion to before the suicide mission as well usually. There are also a handful of missions where even though you bring a third party member they never seem to speak, I believe that Garrus, Miranda and Grunt are three of them (and Zaeed, but that's a DLC mission so it's fairly obvious that squaddies don't get dialogue).
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How does the story work if Shepard dies? Does anything change in ME3? What happens at the end of mE2?
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So the minimal amount of squad mates to survive the suicide mission is two, and you can kill Zaeed post game to take it down to one? That would sure be a different ME3 run. Who will the lucky survivor be?
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Drifter posted:How does the story work if Shepard dies? Does anything change in ME3? You can't import a Shepard dies save into ME3. In ME2 you just get some scenes of the one squadmate and Joker being sad as they fly away from the Collector Base.
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If everyone survived thus far and is loyal it's okay to bring one of Grunt/Garrus/Zaeed to the boss fight (as long as one is not crew escort). Just not two. That's all you need to remember for Hold the Line. Codependent Poster posted:And if you're worried about Mordin dying, you can just send him back with the crew and he'll be fine. Of course, if you do everything else the same, then bye bye Tali. Not that everyone would see that as a negative. Lycus fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Zore posted:You can't import a Shepard dies save into ME3. Doesn't Joker reach out to grab Shepherd as he jumps for the ship, which if he had caught him would likely have caused all the bones in his arm and chest to shatter?
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Codependent Poster posted:And if you're worried about Mordin dying, you can just send him back with the crew and he'll be fine. As long as he is loyal. If he's not loyal he dies.
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Olaf The Stout posted:So the minimal amount of squad mates to survive the suicide mission is two, and you can kill Zaeed post game to take it down to one? That would sure be a different ME3 run. Who will the lucky survivor be? I don't know off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure you can't kill Zaeed if it would only leave you with one squad member. The game still needs you to have two available squaddies for any possible mission.
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Olaf The Stout posted:So the minimal amount of squad mates to survive the suicide mission is two, and you can kill Zaeed post game to take it down to one? That would sure be a different ME3 run. Who will the lucky survivor be? My understanding is, like Wrex, if you would have fewer than two squaddies by killing Zaeed then you can't kill him.
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Codependent Poster posted:And if you're worried about Mordin dying, you can just send him back with the crew and he'll be fine. Or just bring him to the final fight because his incinerate owns against Collector barriers and the Reaper thing.
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marshmallow creep posted:The fewest people I ever survived with was Zaeed (disloyal and left to Hold the Line by himself) and a loyal Jacob. I brought disloyal Miranda to the final boss and let her die, and then Jacob and Zaeed pulled me aboard. I wonder if it's possible to do all the loyalty missions but only survive with two squadmates. Or will your Hold the Line score be too high? Disloyal squadmates will be Zaeed, Samara, Thane, Miranda/Jack, and Legion/Tali. No ship upgrades.
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Did they boost the yields you get from scanning planets in ME2? I have memories of spending ages grinding it when I first played the game, but I just started replaying it and after doing a couple of systems I have over 7k of each element apart from eezo.
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Phrosphor posted:Did they boost the yields you get from scanning planets in ME2? I have memories of spending ages grinding it when I first played the game, but I just started replaying it and after doing a couple of systems I have over 7k of each element apart from eezo. They must have, because I noticed that too.
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Phrosphor posted:Did they boost the yields you get from scanning planets in ME2? I have memories of spending ages grinding it when I first played the game, but I just started replaying it and after doing a couple of systems I have over 7k of each element apart from eezo. I don't know about the amount you get but I do know they increased the size of the scanning reticule a while after launch. That makes it much faster to clear enough planets in the early game to carry you to the end. If you don't just cheat yourself the minerals that is.
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Mass Effect Andromeda pre-order is currently 30% off on Origin! Surely a mistake, but I'm kinda tempted to get it before it changes. I rarely pre-order and wasn't going to for this but at a 30% discount... or does it mean it's bad and they're discounting it to salvage what they can? gently caress it, I pre-ordered it. I can always cancel if I need to. I'm a sucker for a discount. We'll see if I get stung   Bioware points are on sale too! I have never seen them on sale on pc before.
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Helith posted:Mass Effect Andromeda pre-order is currently 30% off on Origin! Surely a mistake, but I'm kinda tempted to get it before it changes. I rarely pre-order and wasn't going to for this but at a 30% discount... Pre-order discounts aren't really unusual.
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Helith posted:Mass Effect Andromeda pre-order is currently 30% off on Origin! Surely a mistake, but I'm kinda tempted to get it before it changes. I rarely pre-order and wasn't going to for this but at a 30% discount... $40 bucks isn't that bad. I'd still hold off just because who knows what day 1 to day 15 will look like, bug-wise. Not to mention quality-wise. Although I'm sure it'll be worth $40. To be honest, it's actually kinda nice there's only skins and poo poo different for each edition. Drifter fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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