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Pan Dulce posted:I'm convinced Chidi's in the Good Place because he did nothing. Like, he's absolute neutral from Futurama. He sought enlightenment, at the very least. And he sought the hell out of it, spending so much time seeking it. The enlightenment he sought was in the area of ethics, so... well, seeking the light is worth some points, I'm sure. Besides, I think you have to have a high score to get into The Good Place. I don't think it's as simple as coming out above zero.
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STAC Goat posted:He's super moral and ethical. Like, there's no question about that and he's repeatedly done the selfless/right thing in the Good Place at great risk of his own fate. But yeah, he clearly spend his entire life too indecisive to do any tangible act of good or bad. He made Fake Eleanor mostly good from not quite evil. That's pretty impressive. Honestly my guess is that his students became fantastic people who helped the world. Or that his death inspired his friend to become the greatest person ever. Remember that he did stand up to Michael when Eleanor was taken away. Chidi's pretty good in his resting state. He's neutral when he needs to make a decision. He's fantastic when he goes with his gut and yells at people making bad decisions. Also he's ripped. That probably counts for something. Abs have to be lawful good.
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Soylentbits posted:He made Fake Eleanor mostly good from not quite evil. That's pretty impressive. Honestly my guess is that his students became fantastic people who helped the world. Yeah, I buy that. But I also don't think the Good Place point system is necessarily based on tangible results. Jianyu is presented to us as someone who spent his life in prayer and meditation. Unless he was always bringing about world change and I missed that just the "holy living" was enough to score him high. So Chidi devoting his life to ethics, even in a purely academic sense, would theoretically be in the same area. Like I said, I think that's an interesting aspect of the points system. Its not a bunch of similar minded and living people. Tahani, Chidi, and Real Eleanor all lived very different lives and very different motivators and personalities. All this reminds me that somewhere in the bad place a Buddhist Monk is suffering in silence at the hands of Adam Scott.
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STAC Goat posted:All this reminds me that somewhere in the bad place a Buddhist Monk is suffering in silence at the hands of Adam Scott. If we don't get to see that then I will be munster-forking mad.
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Soylentbits posted:Also he's ripped. That probably counts for something. Abs have to be lawful good.
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tarlibone posted:I love that a show in the UK might only have one episode per season.
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Tiggum posted:That's not even a joke, it's just a thing that actually happens. Jonathan Creek has had season lengths of 5, 6, 1, 6, 1, 6, 1, 1, 1, 3 and 1 episodes respectively, spaced out over almost twenty years, including a five year gap between 2004 and 2009. So, it's like the Venture Bros., except with shorter breaks between seasons.
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The whole gimmick of the show is that, over time, it becomes clear that none of them deserve to be in the good place. We start with Eleanor, then Jianyu, then we realize the flaws and ethical shortcomings of other characters, etc. Tahani is judgmental and Chidi is paralyzed. It's a situation similar to the one Yudhishthira faces in the Mahabarata.
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It's almost like the criteria for acceptance was designed by aliens who don't understand humanity
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precision posted:It's almost like the criteria for acceptance was designed by aliens who don't understand humanity  I actually really hope it's not aliens.
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Well I mean, Michael is certainly an "alien" in the most literal definition. He mentions how he's never had a body until recently. So they're "aliens" as opposed to "anything remotely human or based on humans"
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precision posted:Well I mean, Michael is certainly an "alien" in the most literal definition. He mentions how he's never had a body until recently. So they're "aliens" as opposed to "anything remotely human or based on humans" I'd be ok if they were rocking Old Testament angels like wheels of fire with wings. Imagine Ted Danson's voice coming out of something like that.
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stone cold posted:I actually really hope it's not aliens. Janet designed it. Her asking if anyone objected, then ignoring Fake Eleanor and Tahani when they voiced that they obviously objected was fantastic.
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CountFosco posted:The whole gimmick of the show is that, over time, it becomes clear that none of them deserve to be in the good place. We start with Eleanor, then Jianyu, then we realize the flaws and ethical shortcomings of other characters, etc. Tahani is judgmental and Chidi is paralyzed. It's a situation similar to the one Yudhishthira faces in the Mahabarata. Does that make Real Eleanor Karna? Wait does that make Jianyu Arjuna and Janet Krishna???
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She's a robot caught in an infinite loop and he's an idiot
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I really hope that's how Jason died, in the stupidest manner possible.
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Doing what he loved, doing a bunch of whippits.
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muscles like this! posted:I really hope that's how Jason died, in the stupidest manner possible. It was actually dumber than I thought it would be. The snorkel was the best part.
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I really like that they went into the fact that Eleanor doing good because she expected a reward wasn't actually doing good.
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Love that Eleanor now has more points than Tahani.
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Kraps posted:
The way Janet talked about it it seemed like there's just one woman there, kinda hanging out? Maybe I didn't hear that right. 
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Polygynous posted:The way Janet talked about it it seemed like there's just one woman there, kinda hanging out? Maybe I didn't hear that right. You heard right. Her name is Mindy. Hopefully, it's Pam Dawber.
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Kraps posted:
Maybe they're going to visit the (wo)man in the high castle.
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This show is a forking treasure!!! I was disappointed that Sean wasn't a big name guest star though, just because people had been hoping for someone like Nick Offerman which would have been fun.
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muscles like this! posted:I really like that they went into the fact that Eleanor doing good because she expected a reward wasn't actually doing good. My only complaint about that was that it took longer than 7.32 seconds for any of the main characters to realize this. Of course, most of the other people apparently deserve their place in the Good... uhm, place. So, maybe they're just so unaccustomed to selfishness that they can't easily discern selfish motives from noble ones. That, and since they weren't all that selfish in real life, they don't know from experience that it can ruin the spirit of good deeds.
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Well the Good Place people are also kind of weird ethically. Like you'd think a town of the best people would all be a little more forgiving and understanding towards Eleanor but instead they're hung up over things that are (a) accidental on Eleanor's part and not entirely her fault and (b) really pretty petty in the grand scheme of things. It fits well with how Tahini is pretty arrogant and Chidi is so impotently indecisive. The system is flawed and the folks in this neighborhood really are goobers even if theyre good people. But hey, probody's nerfect.
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AbsolutelySane posted:You heard right. Her name is Mindy. Hopefully, it's Pam Dawber. I hope it's Mindy Kaling blue squares posted:I was disappointed that Sean wasn't a big name guest star though, just because people had been hoping for someone like Nick Offerman which would have been fun. While he's not that big, Marc Evan Jackson is pretty recognizable. I would like to see something where he and Seth Morris play brothers.
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blue squares posted:I was disappointed that Sean wasn't a big name guest star though, just because people had been hoping for someone like Nick Offerman which would have been fun. 
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I thought there was something kind of suiting about the big buildup to Sean and slow reveal only to be... that guy. It kind of fits the idea of the guy perfectly, I think. He's the impartial arbitrator of people's eternal fate. He's... that guy.
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Tiggum posted:It was weird how they focused on his feet and then slowly panned up to reveal that it's... oh, that guy, I guess I've seen him somewhere before but I don't really remember where. He's Captain Hold's husband in Brooklyn 99. And he is pretty good at disapproving glares and snarks. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jan 13, 2017 |
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:He's... from Earth. I laughed way to hard at this post. This show is great.
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cant cook creole bream posted:He's Captain Hold's husband in Brooklyn 99. And he is pretty good at disapproving glares and snarks. Yeah, I was excited when I saw him. It's Kevin!!
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STAC Goat posted:I thought there was something kind of suiting about the big buildup to Sean and slow reveal only to be... that guy. It kind of fits the idea of the guy perfectly, I think. He's the impartial arbitrator of people's eternal fate. He's... that guy. IMO it would have been far funnier if it would have been a regular guy in shorts and a t-shirt. edit: But I must add that I'm sure this guy is hilarious. This is the best TV comedy in years and I don't think there's been a down note yet.
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Your Taint posted:IMO it would have been far funnier if it would have been a regular guy in shorts and a t-shirt.
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It occurs to me that Fake Eleanor should have gotten similar sacrifice points from giving herself up to save Michael. So that means she was around negative million points before she got the Good Place.
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