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ParanoidInc posted:The rainmaker also rules because it's insanely safe with virtually zero chance of a botch or injury
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MassRafTer posted:If you can enjoy a dude who had the two weakest looking finishers you can add flips to, it's really hard to see how a lariat would come off as weak. It's hard to miss the significance given he does a pose that is coordinated with a camera zoom just to emphasize this is a cool, big deal. If he did a flip and then did the lariat I would like it more. I like flips. You can zoom in to the move all you want, at the end of the day it's just a clothesline. You see like a hundred of those a week. The SPD was awesome though. I didn't think people did that.
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You're in a very tiny minority and trying to defend your point though. The Rainmaker is a protected finisher that's only been kicked out by 2-3 people in the last 6 years of main events.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:If he did a flip and then did the lariat I would like it more. I like flips. You can zoom in to the move all you want, at the end of the day it's just a clothesline. You see like a hundred of those a week. Uh, he spins the opponent around and then pulls them towards him. That makes it at least twice as powerful as a normal lariat.
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RealFoxy posted:You're in a very tiny minority and trying to defend your point though. The Rainmaker is a protected finisher that's only been kicked out by 2-3 people in the last 6 years of main events. 2 and its in ANY event.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:If he did a flip and then did the lariat I would like it more. I like flips. You can zoom in to the move all you want, at the end of the day it's just a clothesline. You see like a hundred of those a week. A lariat is often a powerful finisher in Japan...
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Yorkshire Tea posted:If he did a flip and then did the lariat I would like it more. I like flips. You can zoom in to the move all you want, at the end of the day it's just a clothesline. You see like a hundred of those a week. https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/816624330687844352 Just a clothesline. loving Bradshaw.
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Jan 9, 2017 17:28
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The Rainmaker is a hell of a lot better than Naito's goofy rear end finisher, as well as 90% of WWE finishers which are just "giving yourself a rock bottom" Who cares though the match is great for reasons beyond "he kicked out of a finisher". I wish wrestling would get rid of the concept of 'finishers' entirely
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Jan 9, 2017 17:33
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I will defend the Destino for being the only Sliced Bread that when executed properly actually looks both cool and that it can hurt.
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Jan 9, 2017 17:46
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Destino rules. Rainmaker rules because stiff strikes are great finishers and I'm a big fan of counter/reversal spots when guys go for their big finish. Someone back in October made an imgur gallery of finishing sequences in Okada matches in 2016 that shows off some of the really cool spots around the Rainmaker.
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Lariats in Japan have a history they don't have here. Hogan knocking out Inoki, Hansen being a god over there. The idea is that Okada travelled to America and not only came back with American swagger - thus the Rainmaker persona - but came back having learned the secret of the lariat. I mean, his finisher before was a German suplex, and I assure you, as nice as he makes that thing look, the Rainmaker is a thousand times more exciting and versatile.
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Jan 9, 2017 18:17
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Rainmaker rules! Rainmaker pose rules! Okada rules!
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Rainmaker Rules, Destino Drools. This is the truth.
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Suplex Liberace posted:Rainmaker rules! Rainmaker pose rules! Okada rules! 
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Lid posted:I will defend the Destino for being the only Sliced Bread that when executed properly actually looks both cool and that it can hurt. I really hate it he doesn't call it The Colony Drop.
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Lid posted:I will defend the Destino for being the only Sliced Bread that when executed properly actually looks both cool and that it can hurt.
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Wish Naito did a Stardust Press in the WK11 match, but that would've been overkill I guess.
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Suplex Liberace posted:Rainmaker rules! Rainmaker pose rules! Okada rules! clinteastwoodnoddingonlyitisgedobeamingwithprideforhisperfectson.gif
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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/816624330687844352 Dudes getting turned inside out by lariats never gets old.  Lid posted:2 and its in ANY event. What's the antithesis of this kind of super protected finisher in NJPW? I know the High Fly Flow seemingly never works the first time on anybody good, to the point where Tanahashi seems to take it for granted that he needs to hit 2+ in a row, or the counter resets to zero and he has to start all over again. sean10mm fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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The Cameo posted:Lariats in Japan have a history they don't have here. Hogan knocking out Inoki, Hansen being a god over there. The idea is that Okada travelled to America and not only came back with American swagger - thus the Rainmaker persona - but came back having learned the secret of the lariat. We have that history too, if I'm right and it comes from Stan Hansen. He broke Bruno Sammartino's neck in a match and they blamed it on his lariat, though from what I understand it was actually a botched slam that really did it.
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I disliked how the English commentary said "Destino." It just sounded very bland instead of "DESTEEENOO!"
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sean10mm posted:
In a big nakamura match he would hit like 4 bomayes
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SaberToothedPie posted:In a big nakamura match he would hit like 4 bomayes I remember him hitting Styles with about 500
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When I close my eyes I still see the one to the back of the head
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I finally got around to watching WK and I just want to say that Meltzer was right about omega vs okada. That match was something special. Holy loving poo poo. Also Kushida vs Takahashi was great and my sleeper match of the show. I've always liked Kushida but he looked great. He was crisp and hard hitting. He hit everything right on the mark. Wrestling is cool.
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remusclaw posted:We have that history too, if I'm right and it comes from Stan Hansen. He broke Bruno Sammartino's neck in a match and they blamed it on his lariat, though from what I understand it was actually a botched slam that really did it. We do, but it's not nearly on the same level as it is in Japan. Hansen spent 20 years hitting lariats there. Just look at how the crowd reacts in this Baba match at just the hint of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8EfnFIcpo&t=616s Or how Inoki sells it when Hansen hits it for the finish here: https://vimeo.com/28280425 These are guys who booked themselves as gods, and treated this move as their kryptonite, especially if it was Hansen or Hogan hitting it. The closest anything has come in the years since, I'd argue, is how New Japan promoted the Styles Clash after the Yoshi Tatsu incident. That move was put so over by them treating it as a legit danger to people's health that even Omega setting it up at the G1 Finals has the crowd freaking the gently caress out.
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The_Rob posted:I finally got around to watching WK and I just want to say that Meltzer was right about omega vs okada. That match was something special. Holy loving poo poo.
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cams posted:i have been afraid to say it because dave meltzer gave the main event 6 stars, but kushida/takahashi was my favorite match of the night. I think Omega vs Okada is now one of my favorite matches ever, but yeah Kushida and Takahashi was loving fantastic. Like they both just really went out there to impress you can tell they felt like they had something to prove.
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I really appreciate this match and think its very good. However it is real goddamn hard for me to take a move named after sephiroth seriously.
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Platypus Farm posted:I really appreciate this match and think its very good. However it is real goddamn hard for me to take a move named after sephiroth seriously. That's how you know you should take it even more serious.
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consider that it is hilarious and owns that his move is called that. also he basically works a megaman gimmick where he takes people finishing moves and used to enter to literal megaman music and his name is omegaman
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I guess i just don't take wrestling ironically enough then. I like kenny omega and his whole gimmick and his athleticism and okada was awesome. Naming your finisher after XxXSephirothXxX is little much for me, sorry.
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cams posted:i have been afraid to say it because dave meltzer gave the main event 6 stars, but kushida/takahashi was my favorite match of the night. A couple people have said this, around different places, and I don't get it. It was one of the sloppiest matches I've seen from either of those guys and I didn't really get the story of it. the english commentary didn't help, i'm sure.
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Platypus Farm posted:I guess i just don't take wrestling ironically enough then. hes not naming his finisher after an internet poster, it's named after the real sephiroth. who is cool. also the name of the move doesnt depend on you knowing who sephiroth is, its just a cool sounding name. maybe YOU'RE the nerd for getting the ref.
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Under the vegetable posted:hes not naming his finisher after an internet poster, it's named after the real sephiroth. who is cool. also the name of the move doesnt depend on you knowing who sephiroth is, its just a cool sounding name. maybe YOU'RE the nerd for getting the ref. I mean I dunno. The stone cold stunner is such a cool classy name.
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Platypus Farm posted:I guess i just don't take wrestling ironically enough then.  Under the vegetable posted:A couple people have said this, around different places, and I don't get it. It was one of the sloppiest matches I've seen from either of those guys and I didn't really get the story of it. the english commentary didn't help, i'm sure. cams fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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i don't enjoy the VOW flagship podcast a lot generally but they made some strong points in support of the kushida/hiromu match on their recap ep. basically hiromu is a perfect foil for kushida in being a similarly time-themed wrestler with a '80s aesthetic except that kushida is a great technician who has proven over the last year that he can beat any other junior in a legit wrestling match, and hiromu is a total lunatic who can't match him by wrestling but can beat him by being thicc sabu
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kushi is a trim and clean cut time splitter hiromu is a wild-eyed beefy time BOMBUUUUUUUUUU its pretty swell
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Super No Vacancy posted:i don't enjoy the VOW flagship podcast a lot generally but they made some strong points in support of the kushida/hiromu match on their recap ep. basically hiromu is a perfect foil for kushida in being a similarly time-themed wrestler with a '80s aesthetic except that kushida is a great technician who has proven over the last year that he can beat any other junior in a legit wrestling match, and hiromu is a total lunatic who can't match him by wrestling but can beat him by being thicc sabu
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the foil stuff is more accurately from spermgod on t witter i think but it all comes together
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