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the netdeck bogeyman is at it again boys!!!
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Rigel posted:netdeck What kind of scum netdecks in this day and age?!
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Jan 10, 2017 07:05
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TheKingofSprings posted:I'm interested to hear what people are hearing for why people aren't showing up to standard at the local level these days, because I really think the decline in standard is Hearthstone finally catching up to WotC and cutting into them but I'd like to get an idea if that's the case or not Tulsa area, I've been noticing if anything an increase in standard attendance, or at least a consistent turnout from my previous years playing. I'm fully aware that it's an outlier but we've been getting 25-30 people weekly and another twenty or so for modern alongside it every Friday, in addition to supporting a typically ~20 person modern event on Tuesdays which is about the same turnout as previous years. The only people I hear talking about not playing standard are the ones who just like modern better. My community is pretty vibrant and fairly competitive here, tbh The only time I recall attendance getting notably worse was in the dark times of cawblade sit on my Facebook fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Jan 10, 2017 07:08
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Limited and Constructed scratch different itches. Cube is the perfect format because it scratches both itches at once.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:10
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suicidesteve posted:What kind of scum netdecks in this day and age?! I'd guess it would be someone who refuses to admit that limited is the most fun and interesting format.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:12
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the problem is that you're a dumbass if you use the pejorative net deck. well i guess its only a problem if you mind being a dumbass
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Jan 10, 2017 07:13
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As a guy who has the disposable income to play any format (including vintage but I'm not an idiot) Legacy is hands down the best format. Modern is not as fun. Standard will never be as good as INN/RTR was. Just a great loving time to be playing standard. Limited sucks balls. See you guys in Vegas.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:13
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sit on my Facebook posted:Tulsa area, I've been noticing if anything an increase in standard attendance, Down in OKC, my store stopped having standard FNMs every week and now alternates with frontier. I haven't touched a deck in 9 months, but when I go back it won't be for standard, and I'm sure as poo poo not spending money on frontier, so gonna grab that Sram dude and jam Cheerios in modern until retract or chrome mox gets banned. Mouth Ze Dong fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Jan 10, 2017 07:15
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suicidesteve posted:I play JtMS or Stoneforge every week. Everyone could if WotC cared about legacy at all!
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Jan 10, 2017 07:19
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Spiderdrake posted:Ha, yeah, the math surely works out on that one can you show the math for me here so i know that you did the work, im very curious about this math
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Jan 10, 2017 07:21
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Jabor posted:I'm guessing the PT meta is going to be jeskai aggro (with the combo), jeskai control (with the combo), jeskai midrange (with the combo), and various r/b lists that each beat one variant but lose to the others hey at least no more green anymore
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Jan 10, 2017 07:27
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rabidsquid posted:the problem is that you're a dumbass if you use the pejorative net deck. well i guess its only a problem if you mind being a dumbass Why would you even bother netdecking in an era where every good card beats you over the head with how it either a) gives you a 2+ for 1 or b) is several mana cheaper than it should be? Decide what idiot simple valuemans you are going to play and insert the appropriate glue that comes up in a keyword search. And I think what he means by math is there are literally not enough dual lands in existence to support legacy as a real format. As long as the reserved list exists legacy will continue to die.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:35
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Rigel posted:Saying that limited is boring is insane if your alternative is constructed a few weeks after release. You are literally seeing and predicting that your opponent has in hand the same stupid loving efficient card you've had to beat in that guy's netdeck over and over again. drat you're right nothing is more exhilarating than wondering which of the 30-40 playable commons/uncommons in their colors my opponent has! Maybe even a - *GASP* RARE!
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Jan 10, 2017 07:38
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akulanization posted:
This is true. If I ever won the lottery I would buy every underground sea ever to go online and then throw them.in a woodchipper. Once they got to 10k a peice wizards might think of reprinting them.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:39
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Errant Gin Monks posted:This is true. If I ever won the lottery I would buy every underground sea ever to go online and then throw them.in a woodchipper. Once they got to 10k a peice wizards might think of reprinting them. why not just buy WotC and then run them into the ground by letting us run it?
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Jan 10, 2017 07:40
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ThePeavstenator posted:why not just buy WotC and then run them into the ground by letting us run it? Hasbro would never sell it to me. But if they did I would make Mcmagic the CEO in 2 seconds flat.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:41
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instead of ending tweets with "#WOTCStaff" it would be "#WOTCStaff..."
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Jan 10, 2017 07:44
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akulanization posted:And I think what he means by math is there are literally not enough dual lands in existence to support legacy as a real format. As long as the reserved list exists legacy will continue to die. presumably in this "support legacy" plan they wouldn't just reprint stoneforge and jtms and go "oh whoops lol forgot about dual lands"
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Jan 10, 2017 07:44
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End of Life Guy posted:Down in OKC, my store stopped having standard FNMs every week and now alternates with frontier. Any particular reason your shop doesn't run Frontier as a FNM? They can do that you know. All they have to do is select Friday Night Magic—Casual instead of Friday Night Magic—Ranked on the Frontier nights.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:44
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I wish I was better at draft because I would definitely play it more. Yes I realize I won't get better at it unless I play but I constantly get my rear end beat in Limited and can never figure out why, so it's like "pay $15 to play with random cards, or pay $10 to use cards I already know how to pilot well and spent hundreds of dollars to obtain?" I went 1-2 at the Theros prerelease with TWO Stormbreath Dragons for God's sake!Errant Gin Monks posted:This is true. If I ever won the lottery I would buy every underground sea ever to go online and then throw them.in a woodchipper. Once they got to 10k a peice wizards might think of reprinting them. Would they though? Also I think Martin Shkreli was talking about doing this for a hot minute, or at least hoarding a bunch of pricey RL cards like some sort of cardboard Smaug.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:45
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martin shkreli is full of poo poo and an attention seeker, he was also supposedly interested in buying a pro league of legends team but actually he's just interested in easy press from people he thinks he can outrage
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Jan 10, 2017 07:47
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C-Euro posted:I wish I was better at draft because I would definitely play it more. Yes I realize I won't get better at it unless I play but I constantly get my rear end beat in Limited and can never figure out why, so it's like "pay $15 to play with random cards, or pay $10 to use cards I already know how to pilot well and spent hundreds of dollars to obtain?" I went 1-2 at the Theros prerelease with TWO Stormbreath Dragons for God's sake! I would post videos of me woodchipping boxes of them so they now they were destroyed. People would be clamoring for reprints. gently caress I don't know.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:49
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Standard will never be as good as INN/RTR was. Just a great loving time to be playing standard. As someone who came back on board slightly too late to be part of INN/RTR, what in particular made it stand out over SOM/INN or RTR/THS?
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Jan 10, 2017 07:55
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Attorney at Funk posted:Limited and Constructed scratch different itches. Cube is the perfect format because it scratches both itches at once. Ron_Swanson_Dont_Half_Ass_Two_Things_Whole_Ass_One_Thing.gif
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Jan 10, 2017 08:01
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rabidsquid posted:presumably in this "support legacy" plan they wouldn't just reprint stoneforge and jtms and go "oh whoops lol forgot about dual lands" Well I mean they just did reprint both stoneforge and jtms, since neither is on the reserved lists those reprints are completely different beasts.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:01
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ThePeavstenator posted:drat you're right nothing is more exhilarating than wondering which of the 30-40 playable commons/uncommons in their colors my opponent has! Maybe even a - *GASP* RARE! This is, unironically, true. You have convinced yourself that commons and uncommons are silly boring trash, but we're playing two different games here. You are playing a game with, what, maybe 60 moving pieces over a few sets (mostly mythic rare and expensive poo poo that I am selling to you) in it? 80 if you stretch, tons of 4-ofs, where you are absolutely going to see repetitive monotonous gameplay, far more often than limited at least. Once you see their colors and a few cards you pretty much know 90%+ of their deck, all the important cards, and you launch into one of many well-practiced strategies where you try to beat that deck. I am playing a different game. A game with HUNDREDS of pieces, crazy randomness, surprise, and wild deckbuilding on the fly. OK yeah, sure, almost all of your pieces in your game can kick the everloving poo poo out of most of my pieces in my game, but there is never a case where a constructed deck battles a limited deck, so who gives even the slightest poo poo about the relative power level? I don't even know what my deck will look like, what colors it will play, or if it will even be good when I sit down, and just because I know my opponent's colors doesn't mean I know what he'll do. There's a nearly endless realm of possibility and surprise in my game (enough at least to be fun for 3 months). Roughly 6 weeks after release.... seriously.... how much surprise and fun is still really in your standard game?
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Jan 10, 2017 08:02
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You know what we should do, is another Thunderdome.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:02
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Alris posted:As someone who came back on board slightly too late to be part of INN/RTR, what in particular made it stand out over SOM/INN or RTR/THS? The mana was really good and while there were a couple of cards that were too strong and too easy to splash (most famously Thragtusk and Restoration Angel) there were a ton of different decks with wildly diverse play-patterns from Naya Blitz human aggro decks that could kill you on turn 4 to Sphinx's Revelation Esper decks that killed with Nephalia Drownyard. There was a 4-mana wrath, multiple one-drop green mana dorks, red had good cards from 1 to 5 on the curve. The disruption was strong but not demoralizing.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:03
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Instead of playing a fun game I want someone to flash bright colors and terrifying imagery in my eyes at random, maybe the unceasing novelty of it will distract me from the fact that it's thoroughly unpleasant.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:04
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black potus posted:Instead of playing a fun game I want someone to flash bright colors and terrifying imagery in my eyes at random, maybe the unceasing novelty of it will distract me from the fact that it's thoroughly unpleasant. I'm glad Gaspar Noe is making the Magic movie.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:06
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Constructed is the familiar hole in the wall where everyone says "hi" when you walk in and the bartender knows your usual order. Limited is a molecular gastronomy bar where instead of serving you a drink in a glass they just subject you to the Ludovico technique.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:06
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i like limited but pretending like games are new or surprising after a month plus of playing the same set is pretty disingenuous. you saw the cards in your pod, you know the cards in your set, and even if you play against somebody with weird card evaluations you're gonna get used to that in six weeks of playing. rtj3 mother fuckers
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Jan 10, 2017 08:08
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Rigel posted:This is, unironically, true. Drafting is just a blast for the skill it takes to be able to throw a deck together on the fly while making sure the colors you are going are actually viable, and know when to switch when needed. Then actually playing the deck, and seeing how horribly you did. Kaladesh took me a while to get down.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:14
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rabidsquid posted:i like limited but pretending like games are new or surprising after a month plus of playing the same set is pretty disingenuous. you saw the cards in your pod, you know the cards in your set, and even if you play against somebody with weird card evaluations you're gonna get used to that in six weeks of playing. This is probably true. I resorted to using at least a bit of hyperbole and flourish in crafting my argument. I'll even admit that I'm about as bored and ready for something new as a standard player right before a new set, but I am certain that I am FAR more excited about a new set (either 100% or 40%+ of my cards are changing, woo!), and quite a bit more engaged and interested 5 weeks after release.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:16
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There should be a paper version of the Standard Gauntlet where you can show up and pay basically draft prices and rent a deck for three rounds.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:19
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Count Bleck posted:I miss INN/RTR Standard. G/W Aggro was some of the most fun I ever had, and one of the best decks I ever played.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:39
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Sickening posted:Funny thing is that stupid enchantment from the planeswalker deck that fogs for a turn is actually an option against the deck that a few I know are exploring. I will laugh if it ever catches on. What card are you talking about? Ajani's aid isn't a general fog unless I'm reading it wrong. Rinkles fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Jan 10, 2017 |
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Jan 10, 2017 08:43
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I enjoy limited... and constructed...... and commander Guys I think I think I may like the card game Magic the Gathering. I'll see myself out of the thread I guess
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Jan 10, 2017 08:46
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Rinkles posted:What card are you talking about? I think he's talking about Ajani's Aid? If so, it only prevents combat damage A creature would deal this turn when you sac it, so it's not going to work against the Felidar Guardian.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:47
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Kids and Guns posted:I think he's talking about Ajani's Aid? If so, it only prevents combat damage A creature would deal this turn when you sac it, so it's not going to work against the Felidar Guardian. That's why I'm asking.  Kinda strange it doesn't target. Seems like a poor idea for an intro level pack in.
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Jan 10, 2017 08:49
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