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Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
The clothing quality thing is real, compare stuff from factory outlet stores to department stores.

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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Somewhat Heroic posted:

:siren:A deposit has been placed:siren:



Great color, great wheels, fun car. Nicely done.

What are the details?

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I can only speak for white goods but brands and stores commission their own version of goods often with unique model numbers, good luck price matching an identical product when it's only sold in Store-X. Quality of components is certainly different depending on the price point being targeted, the brands I used to work for resurrected old designs and tooling for really cheap crappy stuff. They then pushed new cheap crappy materials through it, resulting in whole new swathes of crappy often lift-threatening issues.

slurry_curry
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^

So I was posting earlier about the shady Mercedes dealer I had been working with. They are still "fixing" the car, so something tells me the damage was more extensive than they originally said, or they are just loving with me. Haven't officially told them to gently caress off, but I think I found an alternative.

2010 e350 with 68k miles for ~$18k. A bit older and higher mileage than I was originally looking for, but its white(which is the color I really wanted) and is way cheaper than the other one I was looking at. Its not a CPO, but I figure I can pay for a lot of work on the car with the ~$15k I save on the price. Hell, I can pretty much pay for the car with just what VW is giving me for my TDI buyback, after they pay off the remainder of my loan. It also doesn't hurt that my cousin works at the dealer, so I should be able to get a decent deal on the car.

The no warranty part kinda scares me, but not having a car payment(or having a very small one) would be really nice. Any thoughts?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

cakesmith handyman posted:

I can only speak for white goods but brands and stores commission their own version of goods often with unique model numbers, good luck price matching an identical product when it's only sold in Store-X. Quality of components is certainly different depending on the price point being targeted, the brands I used to work for resurrected old designs and tooling for really cheap crappy stuff. They then pushed new cheap crappy materials through it, resulting in whole new swathes of crappy often lift-threatening issues.
Wasn't it Snapper, the lawnmower maker, who told Walmart they could shove their business methodology with regard to suppliers?

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Seminal Flu posted:

Great color, great wheels, fun car. Nicely done.

What are the details?

2011, competition package. Black novillo leather (not extended). Individual sound, EDC, DCT, a tick over 40K miles. Dealer serviced its whole life in the Bay Area. PPI, CarFax and Blackstone reports are squeaky clean. Paying a premium, but it ticks off all the boxes of my wants and has been lovingly cared for by the PO. Much better piece of mind over something like this, which I was also considering: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=440794324&hideBackLink=true&Log=0 (no EDC, no idea of history, relatively higher miles) or the one at EAG that was overpriced by probably 5 grand and also had higher miles (58K)

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

cakesmith handyman posted:

Any UK goons got home CCTV? I'm thinking of putting a Swann system up incase my neighbour escalates his dickheadery beyond passive-aggressive but I'm open to recommendations.

I got a professional system fitted, so probably not what you are after, but I will say that you should definitely spring for HD cameras

All those ones with smartphone apps look clever and useful, but check reviews on the basic DVR software as to how easy it is to search and retrieve video files. I get the impression that a lot of them are shite.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

Somewhat Heroic posted:

E9x Glory Attained

Congrats man! Looks like a good pick, that color is great, there's a coupe near me in that color and he's got the comp pack wheels painted black which looks fantastic imho. Too bad you won't be coming by LA in that green one, though :v:

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

InitialDave posted:

Wasn't it Snapper, the lawnmower maker, who told Walmart they could shove their business methodology with regard to suppliers?

This typically doesn't go well for the supplier - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/etc/script.html

TL;DR Rubbermaid announced to its retail customers in the late 90s that since their raw material cost had increased so would the prices of their products. Walmart responded by saying they would either have to sell at a loss or not sell at all, resulting in Rubbermaid shuttering a large factory in Ohio, laying off roughly 1,000 workers and moving production to China.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Geoj posted:

This typically doesn't go well for the supplier - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/etc/script.html

TL;DR Rubbermaid announced to its retail customers in the late 90s that since their raw material cost had increased so would the prices of their products. Walmart responded by saying they would either have to sell at a loss or not sell at all, resulting in Rubbermaid shuttering a large factory in Ohio, laying off roughly 1,000 workers and moving production to China.

Good job Walmart.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Somewhat Heroic posted:

:siren:A deposit has been placed:siren:





itshappening.gif

This is going to be the longest ~2-3 weeks of my life.

That is one drat pretty car. Very nice.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



slurry_curry posted:

So I was posting earlier about the shady Mercedes dealer I had been working with. They are still "fixing" the car, so something tells me the damage was more extensive than they originally said, or they are just loving with me. Haven't officially told them to gently caress off, but I think I found an alternative.

2010 e350 with 68k miles for ~$18k. A bit older and higher mileage than I was originally looking for, but its white(which is the color I really wanted) and is way cheaper than the other one I was looking at. Its not a CPO, but I figure I can pay for a lot of work on the car with the ~$15k I save on the price. Hell, I can pretty much pay for the car with just what VW is giving me for my TDI buyback, after they pay off the remainder of my loan. It also doesn't hurt that my cousin works at the dealer, so I should be able to get a decent deal on the car.

The no warranty part kinda scares me, but not having a car payment(or having a very small one) would be really nice. Any thoughts?

Cars without a car payment run better. Or at least I like to think so. After almost four years of never having a car payment I will never go back. I am not too versed in Mercedes but I will say that if you are going to be piling miles on a car then get one with the lowest mileage you can afford. If you can get one with slightly higher miles at a low price, but will not be putting too many miles on then you won't find yourself upside down in the next few years if you decide to sell. Miles destroy cars values long after initial options installed on a car will. If a higher mileage car then spend the $200 and get a good PPI done. It can give you a good bargaining point too. I was able to negotiate a little bit on this M3 because of the PPI bringing two small things to surface while not a deal breaker for either of us it was good to be completely transparent since I am two states away and buying a car I haven't seen in person.

Ether Frenzy posted:

Congrats man! Looks like a good pick, that color is great, there's a coupe near me in that color and he's got the comp pack wheels painted black which looks fantastic imho. Too bad you won't be coming by LA in that green one, though :v:

Thanks! The goon meet in LA would have been sweet :cheers: but this one is the better car and I plan on keeping it...forever. I have never had a car this nice before so it is very exciting!

The Locator posted:

That is one drat pretty car. Very nice.

Thanks! The next ~3 weeks are going to be the longest of my life.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
more info about the crafstman sale:

http://toolguyd.com/craftsman-brand-sold-to-stanley-black-decker/

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Geoj posted:

This typically doesn't go well for the supplier - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/etc/script.html

TL;DR Rubbermaid announced to its retail customers in the late 90s that since their raw material cost had increased so would the prices of their products. Walmart responded by saying they would either have to sell at a loss or not sell at all, resulting in Rubbermaid shuttering a large factory in Ohio, laying off roughly 1,000 workers and moving production to China.

WalMart: driving the race to the bottom.
Again: who is going to buy your crap when you run every manufacturer in America out of business? Those fuckers need to be leashed, and now, though I'm not sure by what authority or legality anyone can do it.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Wheeler dealers did a maserati biturbo :haw:

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Powershift posted:

Wheeler dealers did a maserati biturbo :haw:

Not really.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
.

Somewhat Heroic posted:

:siren:A deposit has been placed:siren:





itshappening.gif

This is going to be the longest ~2-3 weeks of my life.

Beautiful! Do you mind if I ask how many miles and what the price was?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Seminal Flu posted:

Not really.

Awww.


still pretty neat.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

Somewhat Heroic posted:

Thanks! The goon meet in LA would have been sweet :cheers: but this one is the better car and I plan on keeping it...forever. I have never had a car this nice before so it is very exciting!

I've already got an E92 sized plot picked out at Hollywood Forever so that my car and I may rest in eternal peace together. Congrats again, can't wait to see what you think when you can actually take it out and call it your own.

PS: Do a burnout.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I have a friend with a kid who just turned 18 and let me tell you, this kid is a grade A fuckstick. I don't know how because his parents are fantastic people. Well this kid is now well known in the local auto circles for poo poo talking, saying LET'S RACE and basically being a little poo poo. He makes threats and then runs off and hides behind MY DAD IS A COP SO DONT gently caress WITH ME. Not even a week ago I saw him driving as I was heading home and he swerves in front of another car and brake checked them.

Well today I find out somebody loving shot at him and actually hit him through the car. I'm being sympathetic to his mom but holy poo poo I called this months ago.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
Surprisingly, despite what's shown on tv and in movies, car doors aren't bullet proof, or even very resistant.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Rhyno posted:

I have a friend with a kid who just turned 18 and let me tell you, this kid is a grade A fuckstick. I don't know how because his parents are fantastic people. Well this kid is now well known in the local auto circles for poo poo talking, saying LET'S RACE and basically being a little poo poo. He makes threats and then runs off and hides behind MY DAD IS A COP SO DONT gently caress WITH ME. Not even a week ago I saw him driving as I was heading home and he swerves in front of another car and brake checked them.

Well today I find out somebody loving shot at him and actually hit him through the car. I'm being sympathetic to his mom but holy poo poo I called this months ago.

On the plus side I'm pretty sure he'll be a well behaved driver going forward.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I'm glad the kid isn't dead. But yeah, this won't change much.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Have you mentioned to his parents that their child is a well known poo poo head who constantly challenges people to races? And that quite possibly his retarded antics towards other drivers is why he was shot?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cop Porn Popper posted:

Have you mentioned to his parents that their child is a well known poo poo head who constantly challenges people to races? And that quite possibly his retarded antics towards other drivers is why he was shot?

When he was under threat of a massive rear end kicking I did tell her about his antics in the non-public FB groups. All his posts vanished the next day and he was out of both groups. Seeing as this is the day her son got shot in the leg I have opted to not be a jerk and tell her that her kid probably brought this on himself.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Rhyno posted:

When he was under threat of a massive rear end kicking I did tell her about his antics in the non-public FB groups. All his posts vanished the next day and he was out of both groups. Seeing as this is the day her son got shot in the leg I have opted to not be a jerk and tell her that her kid probably brought this on himself.

Well of course, today would be a pretty bad day to mention such a thing. However you telling them about the facebook stuff was a good idea. Hopefully between him getting shot for being a terrible shithead and his parents coming down on him for driving like a shithead (because you told them when appropriate!), he'll learn its a bad idea!

Also, got my first call to corporate today. :toot:

Customer was pissy I wouldn't take his return on this bondo stuff he totally bought from us but doesn't have a receipt for, because he totally does all his buisiness with us! Except any time I tell him a price is more than $30, he balks and goes to ebay for it. But its ok this one time because he's totally in a bind and needs the cash!

After the call to corporate where they kissed his rear end telling him what a wonderful person he was and how valued a customer he was, his wife came back in again to return the stuff saying she had talked to our district manager and he totally okayed it, we should return it! (He hadn't talked to them yet.)

Dude called up after all this to bitch whoever answered out, the driver who picked up the phone got an earful about it before he could say hold on and pass the phone to me. After the phone got passed to me, he started saying how he would rather junk his car that ever buy a part from me again amd he seemed really unhappy with my deadpan response of "alright sir, is there anything else I can help you with".

gently caress him right in his tweaker rear end. I hope his timing chain guide fails on his ecoboost f-150 now that its out of warranty. :colbert:

Elmnt80 fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jan 10, 2017

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Eww, there's crud suspended in the Midget's clutch reservoir. Should I just try to bleed it down until the reservoir's empty, then clean it with a paper towel and bleed it again? I discovered this because the clutch is basically right on the floor and has basically no range of motion, figured it needs to be bled.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Jack Reacher is bad movie but Rosamund Pike is pretty easy on the eyes so it's not a total wash.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Damnit. Did brakes on mom's car a bit over a year ago, using Advance Auto semi metallics.

It failed inspection today, the shop said they were grinding. Mom said she doesn't feel any grinding, but they tried to sell her a brake job. At least they didn't charge her for the inspection, so it doesn't have a failed inspection on its record.

Ordered new rotors and ceramic pads for her to pick up from Advance tomorrow morning, going to swing by after work and see if they were actually grinding or not. She drives a lot less than I do, and I'm at 2 1/2 years on $6.99 organic brake pads. Ceramic pads and both front rotors came out to $71 with tax (gotta love those Advance coupons). I'm going to be downright pissed if the shop was just trying to swindle her.

Those brakes probably have 15k on them, my lovely $6.99 Rockauto closeouts have 60k. I'm really hoping a caliper isn't dragging, I've never had to deal with bleeding a car with ABS before.

Pham Nuwen posted:

Eww, there's crud suspended in the Midget's clutch reservoir. Should I just try to bleed it down until the reservoir's empty, then clean it with a paper towel and bleed it again? I discovered this because the clutch is basically right on the floor and has basically no range of motion, figured it needs to be bled.

Use a turkey baster to get everything out instead of sending that crap through the lines.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Does your mom appear to be a little out of it or is she still sharp? My mom likes to put on this aloof, spacey act whenever she needs to have a service done just to see if they'll try to gently caress her over and without fail some dick always tries to upsell her on poo poo.


I can't remember but did I mention I almost bought a car? These painkillers have made me loopy as poo poo for some reason. Anyways, almost pulled the trigger on a Mazda6 wagon on Monday but decided to pull out of it at the last minute. I really need to get the other two cars fully sorted before I pull a third one into the stable.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

ilkhan posted:

Sounds like an enourmo thing to accept.
I'd literally pull over and leave them to make it home on their own if someone did that to me. gently caress you, get out.

Replying here to not derail the other thread, but buddy, you don't know the half of it. There's a reason "friend" is in quotes in the post you're replying to.

Anyway, I was raised not to use violence/aggression to solve my problems, but lately it's been sinking in that overall I went way too far in the other direction. I literally don't know how to get mad. Well, I do, I guess more accurately I don't know how to actually channel it when appropriate, instead of just going SUPPRESS SUPPRESS SUPPRESS ad infinitum.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Rhyno posted:

Does your mom appear to be a little out of it or is she still sharp? My mom likes to put on this aloof, spacey act whenever she needs to have a service done just to see if they'll try to gently caress her over and without fail some dick always tries to upsell her on poo poo.


I can't remember but did I mention I almost bought a car? These painkillers have made me loopy as poo poo for some reason. Anyways, almost pulled the trigger on a Mazda6 wagon on Monday but decided to pull out of it at the last minute. I really need to get the other two cars fully sorted before I pull a third one into the stable.

Come on. You can have more that three. Dont I inspire you?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Come on. You can have more that three. Dont I inspire you?

You own land! I do not and have not yet convinced my father that he should let me fill his new driveway with cars.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Rhyno posted:

You own land! I do not and have not yet convinced my father that he should let me fill his new driveway with cars.

Since when has that stopped anyone? :D

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Rhyno posted:

Jack Reacher is bad movie but Rosamund Pike is pretty easy on the eyes so it's not a total wash.

'World's End'

Has Rosamund Poke in it, plus the plot is slightly more plausible than Cruise ' s ninja detective genius in JR.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

So... oil chat. I normally swear by Mobil 1 and OEM filters.

I'm broke as poo poo, and the change oil message has been showing for well over a month now. I won't run conventional, I only buy it if I need to top off the oil a bit before I need to change it. I picked up Walmart's store brand (Supertech) synthetic, and was surprised to see that it was dexos2 certified (my car doesn't call for it, but later models with the same engine did call for it)). Also got the Supertech brand oil filter, and it looks exactly like the AC Delco filters I've been buying from Walmart (except for the part number printed on the filter) - for less than half the price, and actually includes a new o-ring for the oil filter cap (it's a cartridge filter instead of a spin-on).

Opinions? Some googling suggests Champion made both Supertech and AC Delco filters at one point, so I may go ahead and stick with these (the new o-ring is nice too; the cap is leaking pretty good on mine right now). Even Fram filters for my car are normally $8, the AC Delco filter is usually $6-$7.

Kinda wondering about the quality of the oil, a 5 quart jug of it was the same price as name brand conventional oil. The only stuff I could find about it was some really old posts (10+ years old) on the BITOG forums saying it wasn't bad. I'm not going to push it as far as I normally push Mobil 1, but the price seemed really good.

Rhyno posted:

Does your mom appear to be a little out of it or is she still sharp? My mom likes to put on this aloof, spacey act whenever she needs to have a service done just to see if they'll try to gently caress her over and without fail some dick always tries to upsell her on poo poo.

She's still as sharp as it gets. She's coming up on 69, but mentally shows no signs of slowing down. Physically she doesn't get around like she used to, but she's also part cyborg now (titanium hips). She's kinda clueless when it comes to a lot of car stuff, and her hearing isn't so great anymore (but still better than mine!), but she knows what grinding brakes (and the wear indicator squeal) sounds like. She runs anything a mechanic suggests by both me and my stepfather before approving any work - the only mechanic she trusts 100% on everything is the one I used for years, and only because she knows I trust him. He's a long drive for her though. She avoids chain shops in general, aside from a local chain for oil changes (which changed once she realized it only costs $30 to have me do the oil change w/Mobil 1 vs the $70-80 she was paying before)

There's only about 15k on those brake pads and rotors. I ordered pads and rotors for pickup tomorrow just in case, but I'm pretty sure the rotors, at the least, will be getting returned. The pads on there now are Advance Auto semi-metallics with a lifetime warranty, so I could probably get away with returning them for credit, at least if I bring the receipt showing I'd purchased store brand ceramics. The only way I see those pads already being worn out is if a pad came apart, a caliper is dragging, or if the slide pins got stuck (I, uh... may not have greased them last time). She said it's not pulling when braking either, so I'm doubting a sticking caliper. I'll know tomorrow night.

A guy I used to work with would send his girlfriend to shops with his 80s Prelude for basic maintenance stuff just to see how they treated her (this was in the early 2000s), and she would pull the airhead act. Turns out he'd sent her to the mechanic I used for years, and he was completely honest about the car being in good shape and not needing anything, after asking when the timing belt was last done. Just suggested a timing belt around <whatever mileage would make it 60k for that timing belt>, and did the oil change she asked for. He wound up using that shop for a long time.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jan 10, 2017

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

spog posted:

I got a professional system fitted, so probably not what you are after, but I will say that you should definitely spring for HD cameras

All those ones with smartphone apps look clever and useful, but check reviews on the basic DVR software as to how easy it is to search and retrieve video files. I get the impression that a lot of them are shite.

Is there DVR software that doesn't suck??? The Dahua software (SmartPSS) when I looked a few years ago was among the best rated but it's still obviously designed to run on Windows XP and poorly programmed / terrible interface.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

CharlesM posted:

Is there DVR software that doesn't suck??? The Dahua software (SmartPSS) when I looked a few years ago was among the best rated but it's still obviously designed to run on Windows XP and poorly programmed / terrible interface.

There was an A/T thread a while back that had some knowledgable people in it. Might be worth slogging through search to find it.

EDIT

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3635963&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
Not it, but might be useful.

spog fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Jan 10, 2017

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Tomarse posted:

I'm still trying to find something to fit into the threaded holes in the back of my V8 heads. Getting hold of imperial bolts here is quite tricky and I have to order them in small quantities online and it is getting quite frustrating
Can't remember where you're located but if you can find everything you need on http://mcmaster.com/ it wouldn't be an issue for me to place the order then ship it to you once it arrives. Takes 1 day to get to me from their Atlanta location and I've been doing an order a month or so.

Darchangel posted:

This is why I continue to look at RC stuff longingly, but don't commit...
I spent all my spare money in high school and college on RC, whenever I get sick and am mostly couch bound I get back into it and throw way too much money at it. Now I have a room full of RC stuff that just sits, maybe I mess with something once a month. Was very close to pulling the trigger on a bunch of RC rock crawler stuff a while ago but had some restraint for once.

Somewhat Heroic posted:

:siren:A deposit has been placed:siren:


:fap: drat good choice there


Girlfriend is going to be renting her house to my brother and his wife starting in February so we've been busting our asses getting it ready for them. Between packing stuff to move to my house, stuff to goodwill, fixing and minor construction I can't wait for this to be over. Hope this doesn't come back to bite us in the rear end. Of course day they signed the lease she got a message from someone interested in buying the house :doh:

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Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Darchangel posted:

Yeah, 3/8-16 = 3/8 UNC.
poo poo, ask someone here (US.) We can probably go rip a hundred SAE bolts out of some '70s pickup or another in the wrecking yard, or any pre-90s American V8, I bet. 3/8-16, if that's what you need, is super common on GM engines.
Or, I suppose we could buy new and ship. No idea if that would be any cheaper for you.


NitroSpazzz posted:

Can't remember where you're located but if you can find everything you need on http://mcmaster.com/ it wouldn't be an issue for me to place the order then ship it to you once it arrives. Takes 1 day to get to me from their Atlanta location and I've been doing an order a month or so.

Cheers guys. My issue is that I don't know what size i need as i'm working blind on a few blind holes at the back of the heads.

I've been sorting out yesterday and today and have just been through my 2 junk storage boxes containing 10 years of assorted fixings and 'bits' and I think i might have a few candidates.

I have definitely found some 3/8 UNC

95% of what I ever deal with here is metric. You can get imperial bolts - but not as easily as metric ones that I can just buy from a shop on the high street. Ordering them online in small quantities means they end up costing 10x what the metric stuff does.

Have just printed this - http://www.engineeredpartsinc.com/pdf/metric-conversions.pdf to stick on the wall in the garage.

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