Beet Wagon posted:

In retrospect this was a really weird picture to turn into an ensemble piece, but I like it.

It makes me miss the Civil Meatles picture though.

Beet Wagon posted:

I mean I get that MWO is a bad game nobody plays but they literally just spent the last year and a half trying to deal with the fallout of not being able to detect cheaters. This is p common sense stuff.

Samizdata posted:

Wait, shouldn't we start tweeting with #IStandWithDerekAndLowtax?

kilus aof posted:

Detecting cheaters isn't the hard part, it is not getting false positives. Cheat makers disguise their programs to match normal software as much as possible. So when Blizzard or Valve get a software detection it always flags a hell of a lot of legitimate users. And sorting through that is the slow tedious part.

Hav posted:

I think we need one of those compound names to indicate they're besties, like 'Kimye'. Best I can do is Delowtaxart, and it sounds like a medication than a marriage made in heaven.

Beet Wagon posted:

I'd pay $140 million to watch that. Derek seems pretty scrappy.

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

Hahahahahahahaha How The gently caress Is Star Citizen Real Hahahaha Citizen Just Get A Refund Like Citizen Close Your Wallet Haha


original content do not steal

intardnation posted:

and with 12K+ accounts all over the place you better be sure when you pull the trigger especially in alpha.

RobotDogPolice posted:

What about the people who are going to die before this ever gets released, after sinking hundreds/thousands into it?

quote:

Motion capture wasn't expensive. Less than ten or fifteen million, all-in. The sixty million figure is nonsense. Most of the money went to produce content about the game and not in the game. Over seventy percent of our budget and time was spent on creating marketing content. This includes both internal and external marketing.

Chin posted:

Why would Erin Roberts, head of Foundry 42, the biggest studio focusing primarily on SQ42, need to fly across the Atlantic for a PU discussion?

And why is this taking place in Austin? Surely Chris could more conveniently have the minions fly to him in LA.

Thanks for the confirmations, Sandi.

AbstractNapper posted:

Merging SQ42 with Star Citizen would make sense. It's idiotic for them to keep to making two games when they practically and provenly can't handle developing one, while the project management is chaotic due to parpy Chris and marketing stuff is taking up all or most of their resources.

However, it would be another link in their chain of broken promises and they have already sold SQ42 as separate packets to get more moneys. It also dramatically reduces the scope of SQ42 (lol 3 episodes with hours and hours of missions and gameplay).

I was more interested in SQ42 than whatever impractical and unfeasable stuff they were dreaming about their MMO.

I am glad that I got out before SQ42 implodes and "is now in the game".

RubberJohnny posted:

I have a theory that the SQ42 Vertical Slice was cancelled due to Infinite Warfare showing them up.

Within two months they went from "nearly done" to contradicting themselves about the nature of what the demo would even be. There's a big thing that happened in those two months and it's the launch of Infinite Warfare. A blockbuster military scifi AAA dogfighting and on foot combat game that simulates downtime between missions in your spaceship carrier and lets you freely choose which missions to do across a whole Star System, and performance-captured Game of Thrones characters, i.e exactly what SQ42 is supposed to be. It even does the more open-freeform combat situations that SQ42 is supposed to with your character movement, hacking into bots to turn them to your side, calling in air support, using turrets, even hijacking mechs, all of which is more dynamic than Star Marine combat.

Despite backers insisting SC will be insanely polished, unlike those evil publisher games, they've never put out anything polished for anyone to judge this, and I genuinely think they can't, even their pitch videos passed off as progress are buggy messes. IW is actually insanely polished and good looking, it has probably the most stunning space vistas of any released game and faces that don't look like they're melting.

So I think they realised their grand showing was poo poo compared to games actually released and chickened out, Chris then turns up to the Anniversary show announcing they're redoing the Vanduul and all their ships because they're not fidelitous enough, so they're probably redoing everything to try and stay on the bleeding edge. They can't convince anyone with gameplay, so they have to do so with graphics.

TheAgent posted:

hello

same guy who sent the sq42 cancellation rumor over

XK posted:

You can only confidently ban cheaters when you have server logs of various interactions and behaviors that betray cheating behavior. I'd put money on CIG not being anywhere close to even being able to have logs of things like that. That's the sort of thing you can do once you start getting your network and server behavior in some kind of confident order, which they don't appear anywhere near. You should be setting up infrastructure for that as part of your fundamental network design right from the start, but it seems pretty clear CIG is just slamming things together as fast as they can just to make stuff work. This is why they are talking about needing video evidence of cheats. Any well thought out cheat resistant networking setup would allow them to look back at internal records to verify a cheat report.

TheAgent posted:

hello

same guy who sent the sq42 cancellation rumor over

TheAgent posted:

hello

same guy who sent the sq42 cancellation rumor over

BinaryDoubts posted:

what the poo poo. how do you spend $60mm on marketing that, as far as I can tell, basically extends to a few weird fake review sites and lovely streamers.

JugbandDude posted:

10-15 million is not expensive?

Yep, this guy is/was definitely CIG, he shows the signs.

MarcusSA posted:

That smells like bullshit. We've gone over the the MoCap numbers and they seem to add up on our end. I have no idea what this guy is on about.

BinaryDoubts posted:

what the poo poo. how do you spend $60mm on marketing that, as far as I can tell, basically extends to a few weird fake review sites and lovely streamers.

Beet Wagon posted:

In honor of their most recent (and blatant) Archering

Beet Wagon posted:

Not only that, but reviewing footage to find cheaters is almost useless against anyone who knows what they are doing, and only serves to rile up the community. Before Rainbow Six: Siege implemented cheat detection, the subreddit would get 10-12 posts a day calling someone out as a cheater and everyone would just argue whether the clip was cheating, lag, or a glitch. Hell, there was a super popular R6:S streamer who ultimately got banned for cheating and he was loving streaming the whole time.

The Rabbi T. White posted:

By funneling backer money to yourself and friends through massively padded invoices. "Internal marketing" seems like a massive red-flag there, especially when you consider how little actual external advertising has been done. It isn't like they've taken out SuperBowl spots.

How much can you possibly legitimately spend advertising your own product to your own staff who are developing it? Have they created a Brazil-esque mind control environment where Full Burn plays around the clock with "You love Star Citizen" backmasked into it? And holy lol does it not bode well for the quality of your game that you have to do internal promotion because staff won't play it of their own accord.

hot balls man no homo posted:

It seems to me that if you were going to build a mmo type game from the ground up, cheat detection would be part of the bedrock foundation, especially if people are spending tens of thousands of dollars to play. It's almost as if the person designing this game hadn't been involved in the video game industry for the last twelve or fourteen years

BinaryDoubts posted:

what the poo poo. how do you spend $60mm on marketing that, as far as I can tell, basically extends to a few weird fake review sites and lovely streamers.

alf_pogs posted:

i can't loving breathe

goon avalanche strikes again

alf_pogs posted:

i can't loving breathe

goon avalanche strikes again

Beet Wagon posted:

My favorite part of this is that everybody contributed something. Still needs a sign that says "Dirk Shart" and has a big red circle with a line through it lmao

alf_pogs posted: