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And similar signamancy doesn't mean similar loyalties.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 17:51 |
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# ? May 22, 2024 05:05 |
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nimby posted:And similar signamancy doesn't mean similar loyalties. If anything it probably means Albert feels the betrayal far more deeply than he would have otherwise.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 18:29 |
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Hmm, now that I think about it he does seem especially upset Don isn't in charge anymore.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 18:34 |
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Albert seems to be a little Royalist poo poo. Cut his throat, Vinny. Parson needs to bring the guillotine to Erfworld. Royalism is a cancer that must be excised.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 18:43 |
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Why didn't Vinny hammer on the fact that Jillian had been lying to Don King and taking a massive amount of cash and magic from Charlie? Why wouldn't he present it as self-defense first, double-cross second?
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 18:55 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Albert seems to be a little Royalist poo poo. Cut his throat, Vinny. He will be Erfworld's Robespierre
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 18:55 |
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ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:Why didn't Vinny hammer on the fact that Jillian had been lying to Don King and taking a massive amount of cash and magic from Charlie? Why wouldn't he present it as self-defense first, double-cross second? Does he know? he doesn't seem to know why Caeser is Overlord now.
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 19:24 |
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The name "the Spiteful Tower, or Spite" seems like a reference to something, but I'm drawing a blank.Onmi posted:Does he know? he doesn't seem to know why Caeser is Overlord now. Vinny was the one they asked "is Jillian getting support from Charlie?" and who returned all the intelligence that said "yeah probably".
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 22:54 |
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:The name "the Spiteful Tower, or Spite" seems like a reference to something, but I'm drawing a blank. What I mean is: Does he know that Caeser didn't croak Don?
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# ? Jan 4, 2017 23:03 |
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Onmi posted:What I mean is: Does he know that Caeser didn't croak Don? From Vinny's perspective, it probably doesn't matter who did the killing if he'd known the circumstances of why it happened. tl;dr I don't think the what matters to anyone involved, and half the parties don't care about the why, either. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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A.o.D. posted:From a royalist's perspective, his lack of complete obedience for his king led directly to Don's death, so from Albert's perspective, there's probably no meaningful distinction in how that event went down whether or not Caesar did the actual croaking himself. I mean I feel like it matters for Loyalty purposes.
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 16:31 |
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Onmi posted:I mean I feel like it matters for Loyalty purposes. Don was willfully choosing to hand Charlie a game ending victory. I dont think Vinny would care how the deed happened.
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 16:38 |
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i think Caesar leading a coup vs bunny giving her life to croak Don to save Caesar is a pretty significant difference
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 18:05 |
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The Ceaser/Bunny affair was presumably a secret, and she was supposedly super loyal becuase of ponzie thing. So even assuming Vinny knows the slightest thing about how Don died, it still looks like Ceaser pulled some poo poo somehow.
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 19:01 |
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We know from Book 0 that when a Ruler is croaked, even a Royal caster doesn't get any particular clue about how it happened. Unless Maggie offered her help (which I highly doubt, as Vinny would almost certainly have mentioned it in this update), then everything Vinny knows must come from hat messages sent by Caesar himself. Then again, Vinny definitely seemed to have respect for Caesar, so if the latter told him the truth (as far as he himself understands it) I think Vinny would have trusted him. Again, if Vinny felt at all uneasy about working for Caesar I think that would have come up in this update too.
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# ? Jan 5, 2017 22:43 |
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This was kind of disappointing, it seemed like Vinny was setting up for a last update, and everything just fell flat in this one. It even skipped the initial oh poo poo moment and realization from Albert.
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 03:32 |
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New side-plot time! Hope they find that wrench soon, cause this book keeps dragging on and on and ooonnnnnnn....
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# ? Jan 6, 2017 23:12 |
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nimby posted:New side-plot time! Hope they find that wrench soon, cause this book keeps dragging on and on and ooonnnnnnn.... Nah, I think they'll just pop up later. Or be condemned to an eternity underground. Much more importantly (and the whole point of this update): who took all the guns? Was it Charlescomm or the Thinkamancers? And which would be worse? Zoe posted:This was kind of disappointing, it seemed like Vinny was setting up for a last update, and everything just fell flat in this one. It even skipped the initial oh poo poo moment and realization from Albert. What would that update consist of, though? Right now it's just Vinny capturing Faq, which after taking out the towers seems like it'll be pretty boring. The last one said pretty much all it had to about that situation.
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 01:11 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:What would that update consist of, though? Right now it's just Vinny capturing Faq, which after taking out the towers seems like it'll be pretty boring. The last one said pretty much all it had to about that situation. Capturing FAQ doesn't need to be action packed or difficult. I'd have also been happy with it being so trivially easy as to be skipped over altogether and have the update deal with the aftermath. As it is not much was actually resolved in this one and it wasn't interesting enough in its own right to make another delay/barrier to progress sit right with me. It really feels like Book 3 is long over due in wrapping up some conflicts instead of getting side tracked onto new ones.
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 01:58 |
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I hope Rob prefaces the next update with a hastily-scribbled END OF BOOK 3 / HERE STARTS BOOK 4 ALRIGHT just so y'all will stop whining that the story is "dragging" because of an arbitrary editorial marker.
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 02:27 |
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NihilCredo posted:I hope Rob prefaces the next update with a hastily-scribbled END OF BOOK 3 / HERE STARTS BOOK 4 ALRIGHT just so y'all will stop whining that the story is "dragging" because of an arbitrary editorial marker. I was literature just thinking about this, hah
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 02:39 |
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I just want him to finish the current storylines before he loses another artist.
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 08:51 |
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nimby posted:I just want him to finish the current storylines before he loses another artist. They get paid per-update now through crowdfunding. Those artists aren't going anywhere. Hell, that's probably why the story is taking so long. The pace of Erfworld doesn't bother me, due to the fact that it at least updates regularly. I love Order of the Stick but the huge wait between updates has slowly drained my enthusiasm for it.
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 16:09 |
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Y'know, I hadn't considered that. I'm still in the mindset that the plot can end at any moment to be replaced with a prequel webnovel. Guess I'll stop complaining and enjoy the story
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# ? Jan 7, 2017 20:25 |
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Yeah it does occur to me now with the new system having a breaks is probably not productive for their wallets. And the book ends tended to symbolize a new break coming on.
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# ? Jan 8, 2017 04:28 |
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When they get paid by the fans for each on-time update I wonder if a like this one counts as an update.
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# ? Jan 11, 2017 20:42 |
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"voodoo sex doll"
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# ? Jan 11, 2017 20:48 |
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scuba school sucks posted:When they get paid by the fans for each on-time update I wonder if a like this one counts as an update. I remember reading this article a while back by the author of an indie graphic novel about how much of the time-effort came from him vs the artist: http://nomediakings.org/publishing/a_graphic_division_of_labour.html posted:A lot of people find quantifying the creative process to be distasteful somehow, but I dig hour logging — I keep track of how much time I’m spending on most of my projects. It gives me a way to predict timelines for similar projects in the future, and there’s something geekily satisfying about all that addition at the end of a day. It didn’t really work well with the movie project I’m working on, too many people and too many working styles, but it worked well with Shannon and I on the Sword of My Mouth graphic novel.
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# ? Jan 11, 2017 20:53 |
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Welp. So much for having an update buffer.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 00:50 |
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shock and surprise
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 01:25 |
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Those roughs are very, very rough.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 23:03 |
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Probably better than what I can do.
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# ? Jan 14, 2017 23:04 |
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tbh they're actually pretty good for somebody untrained in drawing. The composition and perspectives are pretty good.
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# ? Jan 16, 2017 06:18 |
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Wow, The Great Minds are really risking the Wrath of Parson with one of those decision trees.
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# ? Jan 17, 2017 10:58 |
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The Great Minds will start openly plotting against Parson the second he starts seriously beating Charlie. They want only themselves as superpower and can tolerate no equals. It does look like Jed isn't the first sentient item in Erfworld, though.
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# ? Jan 17, 2017 13:38 |
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This page, for now at least, feels like filler. Like, yeah they got the pliers back, but I felt like that was something we didn't need to see. Unless something extra happens with Janice which... well it's most likely going to.
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 14:11 |
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There's so much goddamn filler lately. It really destroys my hope that Balder knows where he's going with this. The occasional flashes of brilliance are the only thing keeping me here; I miss the tight plotting of Book 1. It really feels like a beloved franchise that's been turned over to fans, or something like the Star Wars prequels where the creator is just wallowing around in his creation jerking off.
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# ? Jan 20, 2017 16:48 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:There's so much goddamn filler lately. It really destroys my hope that Balder knows where he's going with this. The occasional flashes of brilliance are the only thing keeping me here; I miss the tight plotting of Book 1. It really feels like a beloved franchise that's been turned over to fans, or something like the Star Wars prequels where the creator is just wallowing around in his creation jerking off. I think it has more to do with the fact that the series is crowdfunded per update now. He's in no rush to finish the series as it allows him to run a webcomic for a living without having to get another job. I'd probably do the same if I was in his position. The series would need to take a nosedive in quality to stop people from reading a free comic. Erfworld has also been really good about regular updating, so it's not like they are abusing their fans. It's hard to feel slighted when you have people in the world like Noah Antwiler, who make lots of money on Patreon for almost no content. I'd rather deal with occasional filler than someone like Rich Burlew, who doesn't need the cash but only updates Order of the Stick a couple of times a year.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 21:41 |
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I actually really like all the text updates. Erfworld is really strong on characterization and I have fun seeing what they do about that, and going into depth about topics like the various caster specializations. I should probably start dropping them a dollar a month or something.
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 23:26 |
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Rand Brittain posted:I actually really like all the text updates. Erfworld is really strong on characterization and I have fun seeing what they do about that, and going into depth about topics like the various caster specializations. Yeah I contribute. I have no idea why everyone is so butt hurt about the pacing and there being, basically, a patreon for the comic.
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 00:09 |