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If Pippen is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, does that mean Magic is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Kareem?
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Rick posted:I hereby declare that I will not reply to any Zogo or Zogo-style piecemeal quotes of this post and derail this thread for ten pages.
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Spacebump posted:If Pippen is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, does that mean Magic is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Kareem? Magic is overrated. edit: also, this is one of the better NBA photos of the year so far.
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Spacebump posted:If Pippen is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, does that mean Magic is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Kareem? Kobe is much better because he had 3 good seasons without Shaq/Pau
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EvanTH posted:I thought the Pippen comparison people agreed on was Shawn Marion Shawn Marion was never the type of guy who could dial his own number or create for his teammates, Iguodala at least had a few years where he could do that and still shows(ed? haven't seen it this season much).
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Pippen was an athletic specimen and was decent to really good at almost everything both ways. But what's overlooked is that he had a natural feel for the game that put him in the right place at the right time to do a lot of things that won't show up on a stat sheet. It's kind of a cliche, but I've seen him poke balls loose, tip rebounds (before it was popular), catch oops, bother opposing offenses at all positions, and generally help a play unfold the right way. He had a head for the game, and Scottie on your team (unless it's that Rockets season) helps you win in a dozen little ways. That Rockets season was also an aberration, because Tomjanovich tried to turn him into a spot up catch-and-shoot 3 point shooter. It's not really his best usage, and it didn't take long for him to fall into a pout spiral that year. Please Eat A Vegetable fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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Spacebump posted:If Pippen is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, does that mean Magic is overrated because he only had two good seasons without Kareem? Pippen isn't overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, he's overrated because people said he was better than Jordan.
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Rick posted:Pippen isn't overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, he's overrated because people said he was better than Jordan. That's a fair point. Anyone that thinks Pippen>Jordan does overrate him. I just wouldn't consider him overrated in general because I can't imagine many people hold that opinion. Redgrendel2001 posted:Magic is overrated. Magic is the GOAT pg.
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Rick posted:Pippen isn't overrated because he only had two good seasons without Jordan, he's overrated because people said he was better than Jordan. I don't know of anyone who really believes that right now and during the time people said it it was mostly as a counter-argument to the idolization. It seems a pretty strawy man to argue against.
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I don't even know what's going on, everyone knew who was the robin in that relationship. Pippen was culturally boxed in as sidekick. How can that guy get overrated?
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Sixers won lmao
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Sixers won lmao And the Timberwolves beat Houston
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Lockback posted:And the Timberwolves beat Houston Wow nice win for the wolves . How did they slow down the rockets ?
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Spacebump posted:That's a fair point. Anyone that thinks Pippen>Jordan does overrate him. I just wouldn't consider him overrated in general because I can't imagine many people hold that opinion. quote:Magic is the GOAT pg. Probably, but I'm curious as to how well he would translate into the modern era without a decent outside shot and mediocre defense. Also, LOL at McConnel's Wikipedia entry. https://twitter.com/GodSon83/status/819378404067864577
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Lockback posted:I don't know of anyone who really believes that right now and during the time people said it it was mostly as a counter-argument to the idolization. It seems a pretty strawy man to argue against. It's something that has definitely not been passed on to "the new generation" of NBA fans, which is good. But this is my most overrated player list, and I can't forget the ten years plus I had to hear that poo poo.
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euphronius posted:Wow nice win for the wolves . How did they slow down the rockets ? Rebounding and fast breaks. They did a decent job contesting the 3 and the rockets helped by shooting pretty bad.
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Spacebump posted:That's a fair point. Anyone that thinks Pippen>Jordan does overrate him. I just wouldn't consider him overrated in general because I can't imagine many people hold that opinion. Oscar 
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Derrick Rose with the very strange -21 plus/minus on 25 points and 11/16 shooting
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Lockback posted:I don't know of anyone who really believes that right now and during the time people said it it was mostly as a counter-argument to the idolization. It seems a pretty strawy man to argue against. I'm an old enough goon to remember this. It was very much a sports media effort to have new/different storylines.
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euphronius posted:Wow nice win for the wolves . How did they slow down the rockets ? The strategy most teams have used against the Hornicans the last several years: play them without Eric Gordon.
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Kicks should really pull the plug on this year and use their pick to hopefully pair a young guard with zingis. Zingis is dying on this team. Send melo away.
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euphronius posted:Kicks should really pull the plug on this year and use their pick to hopefully pair a young guard with zingis. Zingis is dying on this team. Send melo away. Melo looks like he's really aged this year.
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Plus minus is a bullshit Stat. Tony Snell would regularly out perform players on the Bulls using that stat. I refuse to acknowledge it.
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Dexo posted:Plus minus is a bullshit Stat. Tony Snell would regularly out perform players on the Bulls using that stat. I'm not sure you understand what it means, it's not a measure of individual performance Anyways what I was saying is the Knicks are miserable playing with Derrick Rose even when he's playing well Cool Buff Man fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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Cool Buff Man posted:I'm not sure you understand what it means, it's not a measure of individual performance FAKE NEWS!
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Dexo posted:FAKE NEWS! Lol
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John Wall needs x-rays for his hurt right wrist. He also has a hurt pinky. That boy ain't right.
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Lockback posted:I don't know of anyone who really believes that right now and during the time people said it it was mostly as a counter-argument to the idolization. It seems a pretty strawy man to argue against. That's true. It usually went like "Jordan wasn't that great because Pippen was Secret LeBron without the ad campaigns."
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There won't be any more Jordans or Kobes because nowadays angry teens spend their nights getting calmed down by ASMR videos. A whole generation of potential predators derailed by the tingles
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BPM and VORP say that Pippen had a better prime than Kobe. So I know which advanced stats are my new favorite.
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https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833 I hope my future children turn out this amazingly full of life and charisma
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EvanTH posted:Found it embedded in some clickbait, I was thinking this one where he's wearing yellow: He actually has a pretty decent mean mug game Pippen fell apart without Jordan because his access to steroids was gone euphronius posted:Wow nice win for the wolves . How did they slow down the rockets ? A number of things. They outrebounded them by 17. The Rockets were super slow getting back in transition. The Rockets shot like trash garbage babies from three. The Wolves went on several long hot streaks where they couldn't seem to miss. That's why it was not just a win but a blowout win for the Wolves The Rockets had zero answer whatsoever for Towns Intruder fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Sixers won lmao WTF how? They were down like double digits with a couple minutes left.
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Lockback posted:Rebounding and fast breaks. They did a decent job contesting the 3 and the rockets helped by shooting pretty bad. Also I only saw KAT take one stupid shot which is at least four below his average.
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Niwrad posted:WTF how? They were down like double digits with a couple minutes left. Embiid scored 8 points in about 90 seconds.
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Intruder posted:The Rockets shot like trash garbage babies from three. I know it sucks watching guys miss threes, I bitch about it unnecessarily all the time, but if they'd made one more three they would have technically been above their season average for 3p%.
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I had never seen this clip before and it makes me love Vince Carter even more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP8LQz0IKLM
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