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I suppose all the toddlers who drowned in Australian pools this summer were faked too. My point being that a drowned and well dead toddler isn't that hard a commodity to come by. Getting its agent to allow a photo shoot might be more problematic. His gotcha being the child is still alive and well just hits the truth bell and goes boioing.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I would not be wanting to work in HR right now. I work in a payroll office and dredging up people's pay records from years back across multiple legacy systems is a frustrating nightmare.
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Cartoon posted:My best guess is that once the dust settles the actual debt identified will be in the tens of millions not billions and the costs associated with all the appeals (when taken across the whole of government) will vastly out strip it. I base this from having worked in the debt recovery area of a revenue raising department. You can't employ all the staff you need to recover all the debt there becomes a point of diminishing returns. This whole plan looks like some consultant from private enterprise punched in a bunch of numbers came up with the 4 billion dollar figure and then did a power point presentation to the Minister over the objections of all of the departmental staff present.  It's also possible that the vast majority of "debts" don't even exist (since they can't even show the working out) and legal action on behalf of adversely affected citizens will go on for years.
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Certainly the stench of it will last longer than the LNP think. This is on the same level as the 2014 budget, and the fools have repeated themselves.
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http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/this-years-australia-day-lamb-ad-doesnt-mention-australia-day-20170111-gtpvp7.html New lamb advert where we live in multicultural harmony and the first fleet was a bit of a laugh. I'm triggered.
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Seems like they hoped that they could get away with the same strategy that Dutton uses whenever more evidence arises that offshore processing centres are literally hell comes up - repeat the narrative until people stop caring and go away. Works when the issue is only affecting a few brown people, and when there's only the occasional blip on the radar to tell people what's happening. Except this is affecting shitloads of people, enough of whom are complaining to their MP/the media that the pressure to do something about it won't just wither away, and if they're planning to send out that many more notices it's only going to get worse. How long does the ombudsman usually take to look into things? I look forward to them being told by an independent body that their system is a shambles that is aggressively targeting people they're not even likely going to get much money from.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they made moves to prevent the ombudsman from investigating, perhaps also promising an inquiry that doesn't sit until late in the year and doesn't report until after the next election. Of course that won't do a blind bit of good with the electorate.
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Cartoon posted:Tudge is actually backing down, a bit, sort of. I guess my letter is in the mail as I worked a casual job while on Austudy. What is the best way to deal with it when it arrives? Can I just ignore it because I'm no longer receiving payments? I'm working full time now, can I (or my work) invoice them for the time I spend waiting in line to talk to someone?
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First Dog: https://twitter.com/GlenLeLievre/status/819347841013321728
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:First Dog: woah, smiths bringin back the gobbledok
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:A Queensland One Nation candidate has called the photo of a drowned three-year-old Syrian refugee “fabricated” news in a blog post, saying “as it turns out this kid was alive and well”. http://peterrogersonenation.com/the-drowned-boy-the-lie-that-changed-the-world/ The guy sounds like a legit idiot, the post goes forever and nowhere a very small part of the ravings of a dumbass posted:... quote:Source: https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com
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gay picnic defence posted:What is the best way to deal with it when it arrives? The answer is no you can't ignore it. And as the word from on high today is forbidding actual people helping with it, you're pretty hosed and will have to go online. All a part of preventing you from getting your money back and menacing you with debt collectors. notmydebt.com.au is sharing stories and urging people to lodge a dispute immediately, they link to legal services and how to make a complaint and contact the ombudsman. the AUWU http://unemployedworkersunion.com/ are only concentrating on the JSA side of the coin, so unless your previous JSA have important details that can assist your dispute, they aren't much help right now.
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foster carers with 38 children notified of debtquote:How do you feel about the way the Government has handled this process?: And that is why they think it won't lose them the next election. However, going after 1.7 million people over the next 18 months might be enough to do it. Then again, I guess Shorten's holiday is too important to interfere with.
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Shorten is a grey man. Which while nice for him personally is not the best personality type as leader of the main opposition party. We seriously need more viable political parties in this country. I like what Wilkie does but he's one voice in a sea of pigs at the trough.
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Why is the only press from the Greens about splits and not them hammering this issue like a smashed-in fender? Also the only moral welfare is my welfare. We, too, are temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
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Frogfingers posted:Why is the only press from the Greens about splits and not them hammering this issue like a smashed-in fender? Because they're morons unable to take advantage of the best political gold to exploit one could possibly hope for as an outsider political entity. They are that incompetent.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:It would be nice if it made people realize when politicians talk about dole bludgers that they're talking about them (people, not politicians) not not some other group of bad people, like is usually imagined Ay lmao
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38 kids instilled with dumbfuck shithead downward kicking values, good job fuckwit
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Those 38 kids just need to stop being leaners and get jobs that pay well.
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Comstar posted:foster carers with 38 children notified of debt amazing
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Anne Aly 2 hrs · The Institute of Public Affairs were kind enough to send me through their report… Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act has functioned well for more than 20 years. It has served a crucial role in the development of our modern, multicultural Australia. 18C is there to protect all Australians and 18D is there to protect free speech in artistic works, scientific debate and comment on matters of public interest. So the real question is this: what kinds of racially motivated things do Malcolm Turnbull, the Liberals and the IPA want to say that they’re not allowed to right now? 
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So the lnp have found a way to get the ALP to pay for their advertising?
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Anidav when do the polls come back I wanna see at least a 56-44
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Anidav when do the polls come back I wanna see at least a 56-44 Only internal polls are happening at the moment. Galaxy and Newspoll usually come back in February. QLD is hosed, is what I am saying and some Joh style bullshit is about to happen.
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What did the convicts actually work on then?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:What did the convicts actually work on then? Patrol Boats.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Anne Aly Anne Aly owns
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EVERY Australian would be forced to apply for an identity card – unlocked by their fingerprint – under Pauline Hanson’s plan to crackdown on welfare fraud. The One Nation leader is pressuring the Turnbull Government to accept her policy, which she says is needed to stop welfare overpayments and fraud. Senator Hanson has told the Government the card would be voluntary but essential if recipients wanted to keep receiving their dole, family tax benefit or child care payments.
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ha, ha-ha, hahahahahahahahahaha holy gently caress. She loves a good solid kick down doesn't she.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:EVERY Australian would be forced to apply for an identity card – unlocked by their fingerprint – under Pauline Hanson’s plan to crackdown on welfare fraud. How do you look at the current news and somehow think that what we need is an additional new computer system to cut people off from the money they require to survive?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:voluntary but essential . Yep
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Maybe we can call it the "australia card"
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