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Chelb posted:Tell us more, about black people engaging in racial conflict, thread for cool dudes that think only the most explicit of slurs are verboten 
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Nah, I'm a reasonable enough person to admit that viewpoints need backing information. Citations are justified and people need to explain what they mean and why they mean it. I thought you were reasonable in your post since it's a very difficult frustration to explain, but I totally get it! I think a lot of that kind of frustration is borne out of assuming whoever you are talking to understands your context and perspective and they are just trolling or nitpicking your argument out of stubbornness. Although a lot of the time this sounds like a fair assumption, I don't think it always is, mostly because I have friends that I argue with a lot and, in doing so, find out they didn't understand my viewpoint at all and what I assumed was weak trolling (as to not feel like a "loser") was their actual belief. As a more pertinent example, I think your last paragraph here is kind of unfair. Everything you started with is fair and clear, but to cap it with a statement with something akin to, "If you read my previous comment and felt this way, you're a problem" does not encourage people who might want to actually talk. When responding to your first comment, I definitely didn't think you were saying no one needs sources or examples and I don't imagine many other would. I think you did a great job of explaining a frustration I bet a lot of people here feel and that kind of disclosure helps everyone understand each other.
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Tesseraction posted:I think that's more a case of bad wording - the intention is to not to stop people with questions posting but to provide justification for punishment if someone comes bursting in and spraying uninformed garbage. Do you like anime? serious note, I like the idea of threads OP having some power to control the thread, like if they start a thread on china they could lay out some rules like "dont saying chinese rule for farmer" or "dont say things that are irresponsible and hurt the feelings of the chinese people" and of course "in this thread taiwan is part of china"
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Segmentation Fault posted:from what I understand "it's not my job to educate you" was created as a defense against Babby's First Gnostic Argument bullshit where people pull poo poo like "well, what IS white privilege" but in the end it just gets used as a cudgel to shut up anybody who has any questions whatsoever Then that should be addressed. I mean if you write a FAQ and someone still asks it that's silly but asking questions is how I managed to escape from the zoo.
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Archer666 posted:Look at this guy, not knowing about the anime twink triumvirate look the anime twink triumvirate rules over the gay jew freemasons, transsexual muslim majestic 12, and the straight cis heterosexual sex in the missionary position illuminati Google Ron Paul
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My Q-Face posted:Yeah, it's called the real world. Why exactly do you think you're entitled to a place without any hostility? How exactly are you going to have a debate in a place where nobody is hostile to your ideas? That's not a debate, that's a circle jerk. The whole point of debate is to present and support your argument in order to either change other people's minds or to learn and have your mind changed. If your ideas can't stand up to a little hostility, maybe you should either present evidence, support your argument with facts, or change your mind. If you can't do any of the above, maybe you shouldn't try to debate. I think you'll find some pretty rich examples in D&D of the same people decrying "safe spaces" not being able to handle the hostility of being called insensitive motherfuckers who should go back to 4chan
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Dicky mouse posted:Do you like anime? True, but many threads in D&D do ask you to have some kind of minimum requirement for posting - the Climate Change Thread OP requests you believe in science and thus accept climate change is real and human-led, for instance.
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Uhm, excuse me, but I'm half-Jewish and half-Slavic. Can we please discuss my crisis of identity? Can everyone just listen to me for a moment? And, like, maybe agree with me? So, hey, now that I have your attention. I've seen some examples of moderatorial overreach that OP mentions. Do people who asked for examples now care to comment? Six million Jews. Twenty million Slavs. My hair is a bit curly, and it's hard to find the right shampoo.
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My Q-Face posted:Yeah, it's called the real world. Why exactly do you think you're entitled to a place without any hostility? How exactly are you going to have a debate in a place where nobody is hostile to your ideas? That's not a debate, that's a circle jerk. The whole point of debate is to present and support your argument in order to either change other people's minds or to learn and have your mind changed. If your ideas can't stand up to a little hostility, maybe you should either present evidence, support your argument with facts, or change your mind. If you can't do any of the above, maybe you shouldn't try to debate. It wasn't about hostility to ideas.
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paranoid randroid posted:where have all the TobleroneTriangulars of yesteryear gone the white house
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Chelb posted:Tell us more, about black people engaging in racial conflict, thread for cool dudes that think only the most explicit of slurs are verboten this seems like an immature way to back out of a thread paranoid randroid posted:where have all the TobleroneTriangulars of yesteryear gone new crazies have 2-3 correct opinions which makes them less likely to get destroyed with logic We handicapped our natural selection and now all our trolls are flabby, come back migf (No don't)
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Discussion is offensive towards PoCs and LGBTQA+ folks. Debate is verbal violence and promotes fascistic ideologies that are literally contributing to the white capitalistic heteronormative patriarchy and the culture or rape, fatshaming and violence. Shut this subforum down.
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paranoid randroid posted:where have all the TobleroneTriangulars of yesteryear gone Eripsa JUST made a thread, how can you say poo poo like this?
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Paladinus posted:Uhm, excuse me, but I'm half-Jewish and half-Slavic. Can we please discuss my crisis of identity? Can everyone just listen to me for a moment? And, like, maybe agree with me? That depends on forms do you put slav, jew, or klurf?
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Chelb posted:Tell us more, about black people engaging in racial conflict, thread for cool dudes that think only the most explicit of slurs are verboten It's like you are on a track or something. Thank you for dodecatupling down. I'll try and make it concise for you, to at least maybe get you to see what the actual point here is. Thread = About people immediately inserting race into things and not debating. OP immediately called racist. Moderator shows up, talks about (race) not liking something and how (race) would prefer things You show up talking about the moderators race, the race of the people talking to the moderator and run off on a tangent about race. this is about DEBATE AND DISCUSSION. This is a very simple concept. You are doing a fantastic job on explaining it to everyone except yourself.
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WampaLord posted:Eripsa JUST made a thread, how can you say poo poo like this? oh poo poo dude
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Jack Trades posted:Discussion is offensive towards PoCs and LGBTQA+ folks. It is quite notable how this post mocks everyone except straight white people.
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WampaLord posted:Eripsa JUST made a thread, how can you say poo poo like this? How many marbles is that thread worth?
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Tolkien minority posted:okay you guys convinced me using random gifs instead of reading posts is fun yesssss come to the dark side 
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Dicky mouse posted:Do you like anime? I'm cool with the current system of having mods approve special rules, because most ops are bad
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Neurolimal posted:this seems like an immature way to back out of a thread Not particularly sure what this means, extremely terrible poster who i dislike
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Fat Shat Sings posted:It's like you are on a track or something. Thank you for dodecatupling down. I'm sorry that you don't see race, friend.
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Neurolimal posted:I'm cool with the current system of having mods approve special rules, because most ops are bad Well yeah, if they aren't mod sanctioned then they're not going to be mod enforced. In which case they're pointless.
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I'm extremely in favor of political debate taking place entirely in the form of interpretive gif posting
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Control Volume posted:I'm extremely in favor of political debate taking place entirely in the form of interpretive gif posting seriously it would make everyone's lives a whole lot more enjoyable that's for sure
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I've never posted in d&d and probably never will again but I think it could use more photoshop contests. that's something everyone can get behind. if you disagree with someone's shop you can just shop their shop to mock it.
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Control Volume posted:I'm extremely in favor of political debate taking place entirely in the form of interpretive gif posting 
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Chelb posted:I'm sorry that you don't see race, friend. I'm sorry that's all you can see and as a result are flailing your pissbaby arms in an embarrassing display constructing racist sandcastles out of imaginary sand in a snowglobe an autistic boy would be allowed to look at if he wasn't a cracker.
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Nevvy Z posted:It is quite notable how this post mocks everyone except straight white people. Lmao. There's no need for that. Trump does that for me.
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i concur
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Just make a thread where everyone agrees with everything. I would, but effort.
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I like the OP
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Fat Shat Sings posted:I'm sorry that's all you can see and as a result are flailing your pissbaby arms in an embarrassing display constructing racist sandcastles out of imaginary sand in a snowglobe an autistic boy would be allowed to look at if he wasn't a cracker. https://twitter.com/memesuppliers/status/818975353611976705
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Paladinus posted:Uhm, excuse me, but I'm half-Jewish and half-Slavic. Can we please discuss my crisis of identity? Can everyone just listen to me for a moment? And, like, maybe agree with me? Unfortunately going by what happened after the Witcher 3 released and the lack of poo poo given to Polish victims of Brexit, being Slavic apparently means you are just another white piece of poo poo.
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Chelb posted:Not particularly sure what this means, extremely terrible poster who i dislike It's pretty simple crackerdog, your prior posts were halfhearted attempts at arguing, and the one I quoted is a blanket statement that the thread is bad, so responses to you are bad and by terrible people It's like weird "i fought a valiant battle even though i tripped into the moat" debate insurance
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Fat Shat Sings posted:I'm sorry that's all you can see and as a result are flailing your pissbaby arms in an embarrassing display constructing racist sandcastles out of imaginary sand in a snowglobe an autistic boy would be allowed to look at if he wasn't a cracker. So even with the tweeting about how asking for a black mod is racist youre still gonna pretend this isnt at all about race?
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VikingSkull posted:I like the OP p sure shes taken
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i guess while im making extremely good suggestions that will be ignored, mandate that all D&D posters adopt a bathetic frame of mind that recognizes the inherent absurdity of reality and faces it with serenity. the dumbest possible outcome is the most likely one, and by acknowledging this, i am at peace.
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