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I actually just noticed that I have Garnet's Asura(?) rod that has 116 MAG. Not too shabby. I guess when Raines is 99 and fully dived the stats will matter less.
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Once you hit the mag softcap there's little reason to nickel and dime every little magic bonus you can get, +element gear is always going to get you more bang for your buck. The magic softcap is about 1,055 right now (unless it changed recently); with Memento Mori and BSB alone, that 362 becomes 795, and you're one stacking 30% Faithga from hitting 1,034. Without synergy. Raine's stacking potential is pretty asinine.
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Not sure why, but hey I won't complain about a free 10 mythril.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Not sure why, but hey I won't complain about a free 10 mythril. Portal app rewards
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Jan 12, 2017 18:06
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Mithross posted:Per this threads advice, my current A team consists of: Use Tyro instead of Gordon and RW something else to fit your needs IMO. You could bring Tyro and RW Shout or similar for more damage or Vaan's BSB to neuter a boss's magic damage (and double dip on defense breakdown) for example.
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Nihilarian posted:Once you hit the mag softcap there's little reason to nickel and dime every little magic bonus you can get, +element gear is always going to get you more bang for your buck. The magic softcap is about 1,055 right now (unless it changed recently); with Memento Mori and BSB alone, that 362 becomes 795, and you're one stacking 30% Faithga from hitting 1,034. Without synergy. Raine's stacking potential is pretty asinine. You're also forgetting that Raines can use his command 2 for another +30% self-buff. If you don't mind using Devotion/Light of Hope over Ace Striker or Mako Might, Raines can easily self-cap. This is why he's such a great RW - any mage with access to Memento Mori can self-cap in that way.
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ApplesandOranges posted:You're also forgetting that Raines can use his command 2 for another +30% self-buff. I think command 2 is included in that number; Devotion is a bad choice though (as are ace striker and Mako Might in most cases) - self capping is in reach without it, so the best bet is Rinoa's +25% Blk, Shantoto's +30% BlK with staff, or Pencil's +30% holy damage materia. (Dark is coming soon, IIRC.)
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the Orb of Zot posted:How come the stacking ATK+30%s is better than en-Element. Before the ATK softcap it would be, but wouldn't it not be as good afterwards? I was talking pre-cap, which is relevant because 805 Attack is actually somewhat difficult to reach without multiple stacking buffs or synergy 6 star weapons. Post-cap, 30% Attack is ~15% damage. Note that combining both her +attack buffs and her +damage buff still provides a roughly 50% damage boost even if you were at 805 Attack before going into burst mode.
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Oh poo poo I have Pecil's +30% Holy RM. So even with 378 MAG he can do some ridiculous damage using a couple of weeny +holy relics. Tried him out in a mage team of Quistis/Raines/Serah/Gordon/Vanille and holy god the 9999s lmbo
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Christ, it's depressing how much easier Bart is when you don't have the inherent netplay lag and stupid pubbies. I still lost medals on damage taken/actions taken, but I mastered both the U+ and Apoc first try. If you have Celes SSB (or Exdeath Grand Cross), you honestly can survive with a RW wall no problem; pop the first right before the two shoulderdongles die, then pop the second immediately after the threshold Ultimate Dispel.
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Ok so I just did the math, and I can do the higher version of the apocalyse dungeon. It just takes like, oh 17 turns of straight dps, and me managing to get 5 actions per rw bsb use. Cause I only have 2 dps as I only have 2 synergy mage weapons, and one is a lovely 3*+++. But hey, native wall, wall break, hastega and curaga+res boost should see me through! Hopefully.  That being said, quistis with 5* black and her bsb just shits damage. I'm gonna do the ult+ version later today when I have time, so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Beasteh posted:Oh poo poo I have Pecil's +30% Holy RM. So even with 378 MAG he can do some ridiculous damage using a couple of weeny +holy relics. Man I wish he could wear my Ebon Armor.
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If I'm just looking for relics for a mage team, is the 2nd 13 banner or the upcoming Summoner nightmare banner better?
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General Mage relics you probably want the Summoner Banner.
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Summoner's Banner without a doubt, XIII you are mostly chasing Cid's BSB with some alright consolation prizes, Summoner banner is literally filled to the brim with insanely good relics and even most of the "bad" pulls are pretty drat good. It has everything you need all in one place, and one or two lucky 11-pulls could potentially take you from zero to a fully functional mage team.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Summoner's Banner without a doubt, XIII you are mostly chasing Cid's BSB with some alright consolation prizes, Summoner banner is literally filled to the brim with insanely good relics and even most of the "bad" pulls are pretty drat good. It has everything you need all in one place, and one or two lucky 11-pulls could potentially take you from zero to a fully functional mage team. You're overstating how good the Summoner banner is. It's good, but it's actually fairly comparable to Raines 2 or Seymour 1, and there are a LOT of really terrible relics in the pool.
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Newbie checking back in. I'm to the point that my inventory is 100/100 for 3* and up gear. I was told to avoid trashing 3* so what should I do? Trash anything that I have more than X duplicates of? Move on to keeping only 4*?
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Richard M Nixon posted:Newbie checking back in. I'm to the point that my inventory is 100/100 for 3* and up gear. I was told to avoid trashing 3* so what should I do? Trash anything that I have more than X duplicates of? Move on to keeping only 4*? Combine duplicates if you have the mats to level them, vault anything that you don't have duplicates of until you get duplicates. (You can move things from inventory to vault storage by going to the sell button, and then hitting the move to vault option. I didn't realize that was a thing for a very long time)
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Richard M Nixon posted:Newbie checking back in. I'm to the point that my inventory is 100/100 for 3* and up gear. I was told to avoid trashing 3* so what should I do? Trash anything that I have more than X duplicates of? Move on to keeping only 4*? Do you have room in your Vault? If so, stash stuff there for a while. If not, spend mythril and expand your inventory. You will eventually have to do this either way, 100 slots is not enough.
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Should I be using mats to upgrade one item to max and then combine it or am I using the duplicates themselves as an experience source?
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Richard M Nixon posted:Newbie checking back in. I'm to the point that my inventory is 100/100 for 3* and up gear. I was told to avoid trashing 3* so what should I do? Trash anything that I have more than X duplicates of? Move on to keeping only 4*? Couple of things to do: 1) Spend mythril to increase inventory space. You'll want to do this eventually. I have next to zero 3* items left, yet my inventory is at 250 items now. It's definitely worth it to increase inventory size from time to time. 2) Use the Vault for temporary storage, especially when it comes to rarer realms. A 4* FF2 sword might be very valuable when a FF2 event rolls around, but you really wont need it that often. The Vault is great for situations like that. Also, while it's a fair bit of work: 3) The 3* gear will stay good for a bit, but as you accumulate 4* and 5* gear, it'll eventually fall behind, even when combined+reforged. So what I'd recommend doing, is occasionally checking what you have for any given realm. The inventory allows for simulating realm synergy. So check the major realms once in a while, sorting by stat and synergy. Got a 3* combined item that is just worse than the 4th or 5th best item for that realm? Just chuck it, unless it's a rare item type like a gun or something. +Mind weapons you probably only need one most of the time. Etc. It's busywork, but you can use it to make sure you're not throwing away something useful. Finally: Just don't stress about 3* gear. Almost all of it will be junk eventually, and you'll drown in it anyways.
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Oh thank god they buffed Yda's BSB with name changes. Command 1: Command 2: The world makes sense again!  In other news DeNA decided to just put the VI banners on their wiki so we have details on the new stuff from banner 2 now. The notable ones being Leo and Strago's BSBs. Leo BSB - 8xST Holy/Earth physical dmg, party ATK/RES +30% Attack-> 2xST Holy/Earth physical dmg, self Quickcast Knight 2 Defend-> 2xAoE Holy/Earth physical dmg, self Sentinel Strago BSB - 7xAoE Water/Wind/Earth magic dmg, EnWater Attack-> 4xST Water/Earth magic dmg, ally Magic Blink Defend-> 2xST Water/Wind piercing magic dmg I want that Strago BSB, it looks fantastic.
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But Sabin's OSB. Does it drop The Train. IS THE TRAIN FINALLY ABOUT TO LEAVE THE STATION.
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Nihilarian posted:Once you hit the mag softcap there's little reason to nickel and dime every little magic bonus you can get, +element gear is always going to get you more bang for your buck. The magic softcap is about 1,055 right now (unless it changed recently); with Memento Mori and BSB alone, that 362 becomes 795, and you're one stacking 30% Faithga from hitting 1,034. Without synergy. Raine's stacking potential is pretty asinine.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:i remember when everyone was farming for black cowls... I still have a ++ one in my Vault since most of my IV armor is heavy. Still useful! Oh man that new JP banner with Mog relics and all sorts of Celes goodies will get plenty of my mythril come late June-ish. Torment dungeons were a lot of fun, I took a shot at it with some excess Thursday stamina and managed to master the standard d200 and d250. The CM was just too much to handle without a real medica or mage relic though, so fingers crossed the Summoner banner provides something for Krile!
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Dr Pepper posted:Pretty sure that meme only exists in the western fanbase. But there's nothing to stop Sabin using his OSB on, say, Phantom Train
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Zurai posted:You're overstating how good the Summoner banner is. It's good, but it's actually fairly comparable to Raines 2 or Seymour 1, and there are a LOT of really terrible relics in the pool. I don't really think they're that comparable, tbh. First of all, the summoner banner has a way higher concentration of mage stuff - you can pull on the XIII and X banners and walk away with random (mostly lovely) physical stuff, like I just did on the XIII banner. If you specifically want mage relics, you are much more likely to get them pulling on the summoner banner. Also that pool has a few duds (I wouldn't say a *lot*), but it also has: 4 en-element BSBs (and 14 BSBs total) 3 OSBs 5 Faithgas (2 of which are also hastegas) 2 good medicas plus some other white mage BSBs and great utility relics It's also SSB+, so you've got a 50% chance of any rainbow orb being a BSB or OSB. If you already have some mage stuff, then yeah, XIII and X might be worth pulling on just because if you get lucky you get an incredible power boost, but if you are starting from scratch, which it sounds like Zonko is, you are much better off pulling on the Summoner banner. edit: Also, completely unrelated, but that insane guy who hoarded like ten thousand major orbs finally used them: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/5mm5xk/hoardlord_has_evolved_to_honelord_final_list/ Didn't take a single skill to R5, wasted a bunch of them, and still has enough to take every future R5 skill known so far to at least R3. The face of insanity. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jan 12, 2017 |
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I don't really think they're that comparable, tbh. First of all, the summoner banner has a way higher concentration of mage stuff - you can pull on the XIII and X banners and walk away with random (mostly lovely) physical stuff, like I just did on the XIII banner. If you specifically want mage relics, you are much more likely to get them pulling on the summoner banner. Also that pool has a few duds (I wouldn't say a *lot*), but it also has: So there are more 'wins' on the summon banner but there are also proportionally more losses. If you do the math, honestly, it comes out that you have a roughly equal chance to pulls raines BSB as you do to pull one of the top tier items off of the summon banner. So, if you have fifty mythril to make one pull? It's pretty drat close. I'd almost say the Raines banner might win. But it's close. Where the summon banner pulls way out in front is that with each subsequent pull as the number of duplicates increases, the summon banner pulls further and further ahead. TL;Dr: if you have 100 mythril pull once on each. If you have 150 + mythril, pull once on each and if you still want to pull more, the summon banner is a better idea and becomes a better and better idea (in relative terms. After a point, the real answer is stop pulling and save for TG Cid/Golbez/Anniversary banners) with every subsequent 50 mythril.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Torment dungeons don't eat your stamina if you retreat? Nope, only if you clear. No penalty for backing out
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Beasteh posted:Nope, only if you clear. No penalty for backing out Or for dying horribly. 
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