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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Yeah, she's done tons of stunt work on Trek, but I don't think she's ever had a speaking part. I think she had in that episode where Picard is stuck on the Enterprise with a bunch of thieves while it's getting decontaminated, or possibly the one where she's a Romulan.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Citizen, they also know you failed, willfully, to report these transgressions against the Empire. We will endeavour to ensure you share an adjacent cell so you can continue to feel smug about this. I thought it was the cardaissian union not empire.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I think she had in that episode where Picard is stuck on the Enterprise with a bunch of thieves while it's getting decontaminated, or possibly the one where she's a Romulan. Both, iirc. E: also Data pushed her into the water in Generations
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I think she had in that episode where Picard is stuck on the Enterprise with a bunch of thieves while it's getting decontaminated, or possibly the one where she's a Romulan. There's an accountant in the back sweating and crunching numbers on an abacus. "Do they really need to talk? If we combine the stunt role with a speaking part do we have to pay them more? Do phasers count as a stunt shot? Can we just shoot them with a phaser?"
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MrSlam posted:There's ferengi in the back sweating and crunching numbers on an abacus. "Do they really need to talk? If we combine the stunt role with a speaking part do we have to pay them more? Do phasers count as a stunt shot? Can we just shoot them with a phaser?" 
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I doubt Ferengi are big in the Accounting Profession. Except maybe for other Ferengi.
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Apollodorus posted:Both, iirc. The most unbelievable part of that movie is that none of the characters laughed a little bit at Data pushing Beverly. Come on, it's a little funny.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:I doubt Ferengi are big in the Accounting Profession. Except maybe for other Ferengi. Probably bigger in inter-species auditing than front line accounting. A Ferengi auditor could track down a single stolen stem bolt within a mid-sized Tamarian anesthizine and anesthizine accessories distributor.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The most unbelievable part of that movie is that none of the characters laughed a little bit at Data pushing Beverly. Come on, it's a little funny. No you see in the utopian society humanity has created we've moved on from such crass humour at the expense of our fellow man 
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:I doubt Ferengi are big in the Accounting Profession. Except maybe for other Ferengi. The trick is have several rival ferrengi accountants all competing for the same contract
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Wouldn't there still be the risk of one of them funneling your money into their pockets?
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Wouldn't there still be the risk of one of them funneling your money into their pockets? That's why you offer them ridiculously low pay. They'll understand what that means.
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Infidel Castro posted:No you see in the utopian society humanity has created we've moved on from such crass humour at the expense of our fellow man I wish Data had a fart simulator that he had no control over, and that he didn't understand that farts are socially unacceptable and funny.
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Really, it seems weird that Dr Soong put so much effort into other tiny simulations like seemingly random blinking and things of that nature, but decided for forgo other parts of being alive. By all rights he should have days where he bolts from his station to the tiny bathroom by the turbolift, or have days where his hair just won't cooperate, or get a weird half boner he really doesn't understand when he hears the new ensign taking about the Romulan yeast infection she picked up in New Jakarta
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He doesn't have to, but chooses to occasionally up mimic human activities. I think I remember him saying that the food would get broken down into energy or lubricates his servos or something, instead of just having a hopper he had to pour down the toilet every night before bed. Although the other day I was watching Insurrection on TV and he told that idiot kid he was besties with that his batteries are constantly recharging themselves so he never sleeps, which makes me ask the question again of why aren't those batteries in everything? Fill every console and replicator and transporter and phaser bank with those puppies and you're never worrying about losing power to any crucial systems
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He is... fully functional.
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On second thought wrt the food getting broken down and used in his system, I might be thinking of Robocop
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criscodisco posted:He doesn't have to, but chooses to occasionally up mimic human activities. I think I remember him saying that the food would get broken down into energy or lubricates his servos or something, instead of just having a hopper he had to pour down the toilet every night before bed. Insurrection had some of the worst technobabble bullshit going on in all the films. there was that stupid scene where Riker orders full impulse and Geordi goes "but dude we'll blow the intake manifolds" (???????????) and then of course it's never mentioned again or shown to have any consequences whatsoever tachyon pulses and phase whatevers all over the drat script. loving Michael Piller really lost the plot there
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DS9 writers had standing orders to avoid technobabble, and specially never solve the plot with it. Like sure have some star trek words in the background, but it shouldn't be the solution to the episode. Also Dax loving hated saying the technobabble and choked out the science advisor at a party demanding he stop writing that poo poo for her.
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Baronjutter posted:DS9 writers had standing orders to avoid technobabble, and specially never solve the plot with it. Like sure have some star trek words in the background, but it shouldn't be the solution to the episode. Also Dax loving hated saying the technobabble and choked out the science advisor at a party demanding he stop writing that poo poo for her. Yeah but what a sexy attempted murder
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Insurrection had some of the worst technobabble bullshit going on in all the films. there was that stupid scene where Riker orders full impulse and Geordi goes "but dude we'll blow the intake manifolds" (???????????) and then of course it's never mentioned again or shown to have any consequences whatsoever Really the most egregious thing was when Riker manually drive the ship with a video game joystick that pops out of the floor, and they didn't even bother to cover up the big orange trigger button. I'm guessing the computer just guessed what speed and yaw settings you wanted
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The 50 year books made me not hate Dax anymore. I mean I never disliked the actress, it was just poor writing she was stuck with. But man, sick for like the whole first season, weird sunlight sensitivity, tons of crippling anxieties and self doubt, Berman being his usual sexist self. And poor Siddig almost got kicked off the show but Ira fought for him. Everyone seemed to have each other's back, professionally, on DS9. I'm curious about the drama between Siddig and Brooks though, if it was just over Nana or something else. Siddig claims to have no idea. Just one moment it's "we're both african brothers and need to stick together" and the next an extremely cold shoulder. But professionally, none of the cast or crew let that poo poo get in the way of making the show and giving it their best. You read the voyager section and holy gently caress Kate got bent out of shape and behaved horribly over 7 of 9 and everyone on that goddamn show was so unprofessional and filled with backstabbing and politics.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Insurrection had some of the worst technobabble bullshit going on in all the films. there was that stupid scene where Riker orders full impulse and Geordi goes "but dude we'll blow the intake manifolds" (???????????) and then of course it's never mentioned again or shown to have any consequences whatsoever The one time the techobabble worked was that klingon civil two parter they were trying to catch the romulans crossing the boarder. They played up the tension and strategy. "we have a net that will catch them" "poo poo they have a net that will catch us, find a way to beat it" "they arent going for it fake an opening" "Sir they have an opening....No its a trap use that counter messure we came up with" *Data does what he does best* Basically it didnt feel like they were casting magic spells.
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I just got up to season 4 and Seven acts like less of a robot than Kes did 
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criscodisco posted:Really the most egregious thing was when Riker manually drive the ship with a video game joystick that pops out of the floor, and they didn't even bother to cover up the big orange trigger button. I'm guessing the computer just guessed what speed and yaw settings you wanted this scene brought to you by Thrustmaster!!
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Insurrection had some of the worst technobabble bullshit going on in all the films. there was that stupid scene where Riker orders full impulse and Geordi goes "but dude we'll blow the intake manifolds" (???????????) and then of course it's never mentioned again or shown to have any consequences whatsoever They should've had a couple hubcaps fly off when the Enterprise crashed in Generations.
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Dicky mouse posted:The one time the techobabble worked was that klingon civil two parter they were trying to catch the romulans crossing the boarder. They played up the tension and strategy. Yeah, there's a difference between technobabble and actual science fiction writing. That was a science fiction plot. It was understandable, they had a map showing the sensor net, it made sense. If it was Voyager or a lovely TNG episode it would have been data just spouting a bunch of meaningless technobabble that causes an inverse charged tachyon field to create a subspace wake around the romulan's warp fields.
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criscodisco posted:On second thought wrt the food getting broken down and used in his system, I might be thinking of Robocop You're thinking of that time Data was drinking something that looked like a drink, but was really just lube for his systems. He sometimes likes to do that to feel included or something.
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I'm pretty sure that as originally envisioned, Data was supposed to have organic (or semi-organic?) components in addition to mechanical parts. Then later writers basically decided he's just a big beep-boop walking tin man robot.
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That's kinda cool. But I am still wondering what episode that scene I am remembering is from. Is it the one with the kid who wants to be a robot like data? I dunno. I wish I did remember. It's bothering me 
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The General posted:That's kinda cool. But I am still wondering what episode that scene I am remembering is from. I remember that line too but I have barely watched TNG so I have no clue about which episode. I don't think it is that one tho.
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I do remember him talking to the kid who thought he was an android about occasionally eating or drinking Really, didn't anyone ever question why Data seemed to always gravitate toward hanging out with the children everywhere he went? I'm sure the writers were gonna say it's because he had his own childlike sense of wonder, but I think that was what Michael Jackson said too
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The General posted:That's kinda cool. But I am still wondering what episode that scene I am remembering is from. Oh! I just checked... Hero Worship (with the kid who pretends to be an android to avoid dealing with feelings) doesn't have him drinking the lube stuff, it's just "oh i can't actually taste, but i can analyze the stuff and try to guess at whether people would like it based on how it compares to other stuff" What you're saying sounds familiar... I can't remember if we actually saw him drinking it, or if it was just a bit of background dialogue.
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Weird, I figured it was from Birthright, part 1, but that's not it either.quote:DATA
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It's Deja Q. We don't see him drink it, but he says "Although I do not require sustenance, I occasionally ingest semi-organic nutrient suspension in a silicone-based liquid medium. ... It would be more appropriate to say it is good for me, as it lubricates my bio-functions."
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I'm pretty sure that as originally envisioned, Data was supposed to have organic (or semi-organic?) components in addition to mechanical parts. Data being like a blade runner or alien style replicant would have been rad. Imagine data's still functional head just leaking milk and jelly all over the place.
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Data uses his telescopic nipple antennae to transmit, data back to Earth!
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i think it was this thread and not the TV IV one talking about how Polaski was a good addition to the TNG cast except I don't think so because they tried to create the Bones -> Spock conflict between her and Data and really she just came off as bullying an autistic robot with the mentality of a child
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I think it was in Data's day, he was telling his girlfriend about how he can eat but prefers to drink lube.Dicky mouse posted:The one time the techobabble worked was that klingon civil two parter they were trying to catch the romulans crossing the boarder. They played up the tension and strategy. That scene had the second laziest sci fi writing though; artificial tension/drama because Data can't spend 2 seconds explaining his plan to that uppity first officer or at least that he has a plan. Instead he lets the guy think that he's gonna irradiate half the ship and have a dramatic 'carry out my orders or I will find someone who can!' line, when he could have been like 'I got this, they're going to be fine, now do the thing.'
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