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apseudonym posted:Ah yes, the good ol' "I don't trust my OS but somehow don't think Im completely hosed" makes me think of that medium article that came out around christmas telling people to make windows stop calling home because microsoft could watch what you're doing if you're paranoid about an os calling home, don't use that os
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OSI bean dip posted:makes me think of that medium article that came out around christmas telling people to make windows stop calling home because microsoft could watch what you're doing Assuming they're even aware of this, which they're likely not. OK, got it. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jan 13, 2017 |
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Volmarias posted:Installing Linux isn't a realistic option for most end users, and buying a MBP costs a lot of money said user may not have. if you have the mindset that windows is filled with backdoors and that the only solution to protect yourself from them is to make changes to the registry or block items via the firewall, then use linux. if linux is somehow not an option then you're a lost cause
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Volmarias posted:Installing Linux isn't a realistic option for most end users, and buying a MBP costs a lot of money said user may not have. lol if you think apple isn't doing the same telemetry on their end too
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Volmarias posted:Installing Linux isn't a realistic option for most end users, and buying a MBP costs a lot of money said user may not have.
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These are useless too because what happens is is that the message comes up that somebody changed their key, next message is "i switched phones" or "i had to reinstall whatsapp" and everybody is like "ok".
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my experience with whatsapp so far was when talking to a friend I used it as an example of a messaging app that's based on your phone number like Telegram or Signal, because she thought this was really annoying so I was like "yeah well WhatsApp does it that way and they're real popular now so everyone's gotta do it that way" except it turns out she had never heard of it either and then she thought I was making up the name "WhatsApp" because "nothing with a name that stupid could possibly be as popular as you're saying"
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ate all the Oreos posted:"nothing with a name that stupid could possibly be as popular as you're saying" wait until you tell her about google
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much like the most efficient code, the most secure program is one never written makes u think
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I knew we were missing someone in this security bingo.
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ThePeavstenator posted:much like the most efficient code, the most secure program is one never written *nods sagely* therefore my messaging app that discards all messages on any attempt to send is the best
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Segmentation Fault posted:lol if you think apple isn't doing the same telemetry on their end too they do some product improvement telemetry (less than windows afaik) but you get a real (once again afaik) choice to opt out. it's one of the setup-on-first-login questions, you can change the setting later if you change your mind, and they do not ever change the setting for you e: none of which addresses whether one should trust apple to not collect other poo poo invisibly, but apple is deffo less user hostile in their approach to this, especially for individual home users. BobHoward fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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it's not really the companies themselves you should be concerned with regarding telemetry, it's grouping telemetry data form multiple sources without privacy and data usage limitations without the company's consent or knowledge update systems are obviously usability/security trade-offs but the risk is still there
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:*nods sagely* if you wrote an app and it's running that means that the user's inputted message is stored as plaintext in a buffer before being discarded, not secure
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:*nods sagely* arguably has a slightly lower signal to noise ratio though not by much
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has anyone done a wireshark of a Windows 10 installation? that poo poo must light up like a Christmas tr even before you get to the opt out section
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:has anyone done a wireshark of a Windows 10 installation? well duh, it checks for and downloads updates to the installer and other drivers as soon as you get the network up, let alone the other stuff
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yeah I'm pretty sure it also sends back info on you, your shopping habits, the gender of your children, etc. before it pops a GUI
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Daman posted:yeah I'm pretty sure it also sends back info on you, your shopping habits, the gender of your children, etc. before it pops a GUI i mean if it's gonna pop a GUI on you the least it could do is buy you dinner, am i right?? 
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set it to something like "february 31" and no one will ever be able to guess it. it's genius
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to be fair, they won't need to after using the right tsa key or snipping the thing off
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Dynamite Dog posted:to be fair, they won't need to after using the right tsa key or snipping the thing off Lol if you put anything valuable in your checked luggage, ever.
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lol if you check luggage at all. physical security, etc, etc
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lol if u dont set yuore combination lock to a combination of 420 and 69 i set my date locks to april 20, 1969
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 this seems like the recipe for a sec fuckup. like i fully expect that in 6 months we'll be seeing a news article about this thing actually routing all your dns requests through their server or the app stripping all ssl certificates so that they can analyze your traffic like comodo did also apple already tracks data usage per app in settings, is that info not available to apps?
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its a tsa lock so its not gonna work to begin with. Might as well make it easy for the user if security isn't possible
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that youtube video of the guy that found the bit diagrams of tsa locks posted on a government website and just made his own
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arent most luggage locks going to be garbage enough that you can just shim them open anyway
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You don't actually have to use TSA locks right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbpKhHwwtiY
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if you put locks on your bag and they are not TSA the TSA will cut them off but yeah they're useless either way cause of 100 reasons. the only way to secure checked baggage is to get a hard case with a good lock and transport firearms in it along w/ everything else.
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Thanks Ants posted:arent most luggage locks going to be garbage enough that you can just shim them open anyway or just slice the bottom of your luggage open, why waste time defeating the lock when you can simply defeat the container?
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:*nods sagely* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app) was clearly the most secure messaging app until it started asking for location 
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Midjack posted:why waste time defeating the lock when you can simply defeat the container? but enough about the new docker 0day
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You only have to make your luggage secure enough to make a thief move 2 feet down to the next piece of luggage.
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Twist ties take longer to open than tsa locks and they're cheaper to replace when they're inevitably cut off anyway
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flakeloaf posted:Twist ties take longer to open than tsa locks and they're cheaper to replace when they're inevitably cut off anyway that's a real good idea actually
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