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Higsian posted:I'm not sure it was ever cool and normal to rape your children. Never heard of Tasmania?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Never heard of Tasmania? Tasmania is many things, but normal isn't one of them
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Solemn Sloth posted:Tasmania is many things, but normal isn't one of them And it's only cool in temperature
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norp posted:And it's only cool in temperature gently caress u we got MONA now.
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Jan 14, 2017 13:17
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Berriedale is basically the Paris of the south.
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Higsian posted:I'm not sure it was ever cool and normal to rape your children. It was in the sense that there were no consequences
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SMH: Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, who is responsible for keeping government spending under control, billed taxpayers more than $23,000 for weekend trips to the beach resort town of Broome with his wife over five years.
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Remember this guy? He won.quote:A doctor wrongly accused of terrorism has struck a ''substantial'' compensation deal with the federal government. Amusing coda. Imagine if they'd done that to him now.
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Okay, so, apparently Alex Gollan - the Antibogan guy who had white supremacists conspiring to get him done for child pornography - has actually been charged and found guilty, despite all the evidence he had of people impersonating him? Anyone been following this closely?
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Uh? Is that the same guy? Seems pretty cut and dried and doesn't mention anything about TAB stuff? http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/former-assistant-principal-alex-gollan-sentenced-to-jail-over-child-grooming-porn-offences-20160830-gr4bx0.html
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Milky Moor posted:Okay, so, apparently Alex Gollan - the Antibogan guy who had white supremacists conspiring to get him done for child pornography - has actually been charged and found guilty, despite all the evidence he had of people impersonating him? According to that article he plead guilty, which is not the same as being found guilty. Why would he do that, if it was a case of people impersonating him? It could be that he had legal advice to do so since pleading guilty and avoiding a trial sometimes results in a suspended sentence since that's showing remorse and cooperating and so on. He also has the "nice educated young white guy who just made a mistake and probably wouldn't do well in jail" factor going for him. A trial could have made it worse for him and maybe his lawyers had a good idea of how well people would follow the "persecuted by white supremacists" defense, if it is the same guy his lawyers probably told him to keep that to himself because it probably sounds paranoid and crazy to an outsider. I was wondering if we'd ever hear more from that guy - if it is him, what's more likely? That he set up the persecuted by white supremacists stuff as a cover story for when he got caught being a perv, or the police/courts/law process is incapable of understanding internet impersonation OR its impossible to prove who owns a facebook account and who sent a message? Why did they only find four videos?
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I found this account of the court stuff last night but it 404s now (the whole site does so I'm guessing it got DDOSed). It basically said that the court can't comprehend the Intenet-based nature of it, he had the four videos because the police didn't understand Dropbox or URLs and wanted them on a USB, and he plead guilty because he did talk to a student online but not in the manner which the media is reporting it (grooming). http://www.alexgollan.com/media.html There is also this post of his from when it all started: https://gollanstruth.wordpress.com
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It's still available through Google's cache. Whatever his guilt, he seems very naive for collecting all that stuff and dealing with the police directly instead of through a lawyer.
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Recoome posted:Fill the blank: PAULINE HANSON SAYS _____________________________________ IS UNDERMINING THE AUSTRALIAN WAY OF LIFE The ones that bandied around Facebook at the moment are: "PAULINE HANSON WANTS TO STOP DOLE BLUDGERS! SHARE IF YOU AGREE!" which the person who posted it is a white male in his 50s. Even Jacqui Lambie gets the "JACQUI (and sometimes JACKIE) LAMBIE WANTS TO BRING BACK NATIONAL SERVICE! SHARE IF YOU AGREE!"
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I'd be interested to know the demographics of Hanson supports, because I don't think they are sipping lattes in their $800k GC apartments
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Recoome posted:I'd be interested to know the demographics of Hanson supports, because I don't think they are sipping lattes in their $800k GC apartments Probably those temporarily embarrassed millionaires one hears about.
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heh, now look who's not living in The Real Australia loving going down to their safe-space pubs and sipping their once-hopped large batch "lager", munching on $17 Parmas and being insulated from the struggle the rest of us battlers face
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https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/820624573448134656 Come on leadership speculation...
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It really does feel just like when Gillard was in. They're hosed if they stay the course but they don't have any other credible options. I can't see them winning by bringing back Abbott, but like Rudd he'd probably be happy to lose an election if he could humiliate Turnbull.
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Senor Tron posted:https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/820624573448134656 quote:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/16/coalition-hits-new-low-and-greens-trail-one-nation-in-poll-showing-centrelink-anger I think this is interesting, and I wonder what's behind it. Are people who vote Greens as a protest switching to One Nation?
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open24hours posted:I think this is interesting, and I wonder what's behind it. Are people who vote Greens as a protest switching to One Nation? No.
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open24hours posted:I think this is interesting, and I wonder what's behind it. Are people who vote Greens as a protest switching to One Nation?
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I'm okay if Pauline Hanson takes every opportunity to tie herself to a garbage fire
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Federal ICAC now???? I know he is only suggesting an inquiry into whether we should get an ICAC, but still, one of the majors suggesting it is a pretty big deal. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...116-gts397.html SMH posted:Federal Parliament is set to conduct its first comprehensive investigation into the case for a national anti-corruption watchdog after Opposition Leader Bill Shorten threw his support behind an inquiry.
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Freudian Slip posted:Federal ICAC now???? Nah it's a rhetorical flourish to see if the focus groups shift at all. Neither major would allow a true ICAC, they just want to farm hope. So I went to look for this polling, reported in at least a couple of MSM stories. Not mentioned on ReachTel's site, nor on Getup's site. So I'm asking them directly on twitter, because I'm not satisfied about the detail, and not happy about no direct link so I can judge it.
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ewe2 posted:Nah it's a rhetorical flourish to see if the focus groups shift at all. Neither major would allow a true ICAC, they just want to farm hope. I'm curious about how it compares the the previous round of polling - e.g. has the Greens vote remained stable/decreased?
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Meanwhile Andrew Wilkie is putting up some serious poo poo for the Ombudsman to investigate:quote:Centrelink public servants who ask too many questions about their agency's controversial "robo-debt" recovery effort are being "managed" out of debt recovery units, according to independent MP Andrew Wilkie. Not surprising given the politicisation of the public service, but really undermines Tudge. The rage is maintained.
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ewe2 posted:Meanwhile Andrew Wilkie is putting up some serious poo poo for the Ombudsman to investigate: This kind of dovetails with a question I asked earlier this month... what the gently caress is happening in Australia's public service that this poo poo goes on?
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hooman posted:This kind of dovetails with a question I asked earlier this month... what the gently caress is happening in Australia's public service that this poo poo goes on?
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Okay, took a couple days off to clear out the cobwebs because when I post angry I'm never as clear as I want to be. So let's try again. Starting with this: Recoome posted:Also Gorilla Salad, you can go gently caress yourself with that "drug addict" comment. I'm really glad you think you can reduce someone to a perjorative label, I mean who cares lol she's just a drug addict haha To try and clear things up - police are bastards. Prison is terrible. Anyone in a position of authority who allows a sick woman to die on their watch deserves to not only lose their job but be arrested for manslaughter, or depraved indifference at the very least. What I was trying (poorly) to say is that the fact police are bastards and sometimes allow terrible things to happen to people in their charge is still no reason to expect an abused woman to not call triple 0 to protect herself when her partner is beating the poo poo out of her. Magog posted:So if reality was different than it actually is they'd be wrong then? Okay. Police in the 70s and 80s are not the police of today. The same "rich white feminists" that Left Renewal hate so much were the very ones who got laws put in place to force police to act. So yes, an abused woman today who calls the police can expect them to actually do something because they'd be pilloried if they didn't. When I was a child, the best you could expect from the police, if they even bothered to turn up at all, was a contemptuous, "So, what did you do to set him off this time?" directed at my mother as she huddled crying and bleeding in the corner. I have been watching the Left Renewal Facebook page where this all started and people there have been pointing out that they have nothing in place now to help women. It's all well and good to say not to call the police but Left Renewal, despite being called out several times, haven't revealed their masterwork to help the victims here. Of course, Left Renewal would tell you the true victims are men. I suck at the Facebook, but here're a few of the comments there.  And because, goddamn some people are just that clueless:  The alternative to women calling the police when their partners are beating the crap out of them - community gardens 
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hooman posted:This kind of dovetails with a question I asked earlier this month... what the gently caress is happening in Australia's public service that this poo poo goes on? Laura tingle wrote a quarterly essay a while ago about how the public service needs long-term employees to be effective but because everyone keeps getting fired every four years the institution as a whole just doesn't have the knowledge on how to run a country.
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hooman posted:This kind of dovetails with a question I asked earlier this month... what the gently caress is happening in Australia's public service that this poo poo goes on? Read all about it. Or a summary if you prefer.
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The Westminster style of governance, where elected representative fill cabinet roles and thus don't necessarily have any experience in the area, relies on a professional public service with institutional memory. When you implement presidential style scorched earth policy on bureaucrats with an incoming administration it falls apart because you don't even have a (theoretically) qualified secretary to lead the department. It's the worst of both worlds
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Somebody was talking about ndis finding the other day itt? A friend of mine in healthcare says there's no usefull information online on how to access the ndis and any phone calls just ring out. Does anybody know anything about it?
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hooman posted:This kind of dovetails with a question I asked earlier this month... what the gently caress is happening in Australia's public service that this poo poo goes on? Solemn Sloth posted:The Westminster style of governance, where elected representative fill cabinet roles and thus don't necessarily have any experience in the area, relies on a professional public service with institutional memory. When you implement presidential style scorched earth policy on bureaucrats with an incoming administration it falls apart because you don't even have a (theoretically) qualified secretary to lead the department. It's the worst of both worlds Bingo. All you need to do for compliance is to politicise the top level and they'll do the damage for you, it's the same mechanism that Murdoch uses to get an understood line in his media. But it has a nasty consequence: when you need them, they aren't there for you, because you've destroyed the frank and fearless chain. People at the bottom of that chain have no loyalty any more and those at the top can say nothing to help.
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