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head58 posted:Can someone explain to me how Morghoul2's Shadowplay spell works using very small words as if I were an extremely stupid child? If you don't upkeep, it doesn't get incorporeal during your control phase. But as far as I can tell there's nothing stopping you from casting it several times in a turn to make several models incorporeal. rkajdi posted:You can damage a colossal and force it to discard half its action. It's probably the best common control effect that isn't shakeable. While that's true, it's still a pow 11 spell being cast by a fury 5 caster. What makes xerxis2 in particular good for it?
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Xerxis 2 has Field Marshal [+2 spd]. That's really really good. These are good changes! Sister of Battle are finally good again!
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Jan 18, 2017 01:41
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Hey Skorne players. Super excited about all your new rules? Why not try them out at my super awesome event? http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?263389-The-Americas-Team-Championship-2017 No, I have no shame. Why do you ask?
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Jan 18, 2017 01:44
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Does rapport and long leash stack Does an archidon with rapport count as in control range from 40 inches away
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Jan 18, 2017 01:48
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My man the rhinidon getting some nice things, I always believed in you, buddy 
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Jan 18, 2017 01:53
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chutche2 posted:Does rapport and long leash stack Yes, and they specifically call this out in the developer notes for the errata. Which are super cool and worth reading over if you want to see why changes were made: http://privateerpress.com/january-skorne-errata-developers-notes
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Jan 18, 2017 01:55
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head58 posted:Can someone explain to me how Morghoul2's Shadowplay spell works using very small words as if I were an extremely stupid child? If you look at the Player Turn Sequence (p.29 of the small Warmachine book) you get your answer. For the Control phase, you pay for upkeeps in step 4, but don't get to do "all other effects" until step 5. So you need to pay to upkeep the spell to use it that round.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:03
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rkajdi posted:If you look at the Player Turn Sequence (p.29 of the small Warmachine book) you get your answer. For the Control phase, you pay for upkeeps in step 4, but don't get to do "all other effects" until step 5. So you need to pay to upkeep the spell to use it that round. Seems like the intent of the wording is "target gets incorporeal now, and at the start of each turn as long as you upkeep this buff," yeah? Seems like incorporeal just requires the weird wording because it falls off when you attack.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:05
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chutche2 posted:While that's true, it's still a pow 11 spell being cast by a fury 5 caster. What makes xerxis2 in particular good for it? I wouldn't use it with Xerxis, but it sounds like something that would be good for Marketh to cast. As far a nukes go, Stranglehold has one of the best riders, so I could see casting it in some cases. Petrify was a lovely nuke, so it had no point at all.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:06
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Magres posted:Seems like the intent of the wording is "target gets incorporeal now, and at the start of each turn as long as you upkeep this buff," yeah? Seems like incorporeal just requires the weird wording because it falls off when you attack. It also is only on your own turn, so it's like Immortals in that it's only good for terrain and free strikes 95% of the time.
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Jan 18, 2017 02:11
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it's worded that way because incorp falls off if you attack so it has to keep reapplying it to function like you want it to, I think also you can upkeep it on unit a, then recast it on unit b during your activation and have two incorporeal units
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Jan 18, 2017 04:15
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New box sets for 2017. Get ready for cash grabs... It's gaspy with banes! Who'da guessed. I mean, it's not like Cryx has fantastic infantry options, especially in plastic.... but christ, can't they do something other than a bane-centric set for them? That said, it's a decent list... just... uninspired. I'd have loved to see a good Mortenabra list go here instead... And in case you were gonna think they wouldn't do a jack/beast heavy list...  Circle with the beast spam, including two griffons for your 2Una stompy-spam list.
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Jan 18, 2017 04:59
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The circle tradition of a pair of light beast paper weights
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Jan 18, 2017 05:03
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People in my area have been complaining of not being able to acquire griffons for their spam lists... Here's a $160 way to get 2, easy.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:15
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No one runs rotterhorns in anything. Scarfell is the only thing with wings that is used before and after a caster was made that did stuff for birds
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Jan 18, 2017 05:16
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If they make these like they did the old ones, they will be full multi-part kits.. otherwise it's just a headswap or greenstuffed hood to make them into scarsfell.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:38
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koreban posted:If they make these like they did the old ones, they will be full multi-part kits.. otherwise it's just a headswap or greenstuffed hood to make them into scarsfell. Lights have never been multikits.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:52
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I'm frustrated that Una does nothing for the roc and doesn't want to use the less popular Griffons. My friend thinks they should take long leash off the scarfell. It would probably knee cap what makes Una so obnoxious and suddenly the rest of her card might come into play. I think its a good idea but I hope they compensate it some how. The lights are already pretty marginal.
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Jan 18, 2017 05:54
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chutche2 posted:While that's true, it's still a pow 11 spell being cast by a fury 5 caster. What makes xerxis2 in particular good for it? For me, it has to do with what the threats are to Xerxis2 himself. With the changes to Skorne, Xerxis2 probably isn't going to die to shooting, at least the shooting most lists will be bringing. The way a lot of lists in the current meta will have to deal with him is with a melee heavy. Stranglehold means that one or more of their heavies will not be a threat to Xerxis2 that turn. That means that he can play more aggressively, which in my opinion is a huge part of the reason to even bring him in the first place. The way I see Xerxis2 working is that he opens with a very strong alpha and then gets personally involved in order to retain the advantage you gain in that alpha. Stranglehold lets him do that a lot more safely. It's not guaranteed, obviously Focus 5 is a thing (although Marketh helps here with MA 7) and it has to damage etc. However if it does land, there are perishingly few ways around it. It's particularly relevant because while he gained a ton, he lost 2" of personal threat and more importantly, 2" of Sprint distance, meaning it's harder to keep him safe from those melee threats.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:06
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Where can I get some desert grass/shrubs for some menoth basing? GF9 does some really nice spring foliage clumps, but for arid they only have static grass, not foliage clumps.
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chutche2 posted:If you don't upkeep, it doesn't get incorporeal during your control phase. But as far as I can tell there's nothing stopping you from casting it several times in a turn to make several models incorporeal. I had this discussion with a Skorne player earlier, and it's because of the force he can project up the field. Stranglehold can keep him and his list safe from a particular heavy, or colossal, and with as hard as Skorne can hit in melee, that stuff doesn't need his feat. His field marshal means he's naturally out-threating a lot of the really nasty stuff in the game, and if you commit Tiberion it can keep more than one heavy from coming into Tibs, or keeping a colossal from fully committing. Use his feat to get stranglehold onto an important target, and take Marketh to do it twice on feat turn, and you can get a lot of work out of your guns while using stranglehold to protect either your more squishy stuff from melee or protecting the stuff you commit that turn from counterattack. And, of course, he can project it very far up the board if he gets the chance to charge -> stranglehold => sprint. e: Attack Bacon knows what's up S.J. fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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chutche2 posted:Where can I get some desert grass/shrubs for some menoth basing? GF9 does some really nice spring foliage clumps, but for arid they only have static grass, not foliage clumps. Army Painter does some tuft and shrub packs. How dry and desiccated are you looking?
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Jan 18, 2017 06:27
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The Impaler posted:Army Painter does some tuft and shrub packs. How dry and desiccated are you looking? Spaghetti Western level
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Hm, you'd probably want to check out 'field grass' (woodland scenics/ secret weapon) which you cut down, and clump up yourself. Had a look at these ideas?
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Jan 18, 2017 06:40
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I like the look of that woodland straw one.
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Khisanth Magus posted:Lights have never been multikits. Oh, right. Khador-world problems... Still, greenstuff hoods over them and call it a day.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:52
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Jesus why does woodland scenics want $10 shipping for a $5 bag of grass Maybe amazon has it.
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Jan 18, 2017 06:54
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Fwiw that pack of grass flock will last you basically forever.
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koreban posted:Fwiw that pack of grass flock will last you basically forever. It's not flock, it's the field grass. It actually won't last that long it looks like, it's a little baggie of 2 inch fibers that you cut to length for grass. I can get it on amazon with shipping for less than $6
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I cannot sing higher praises for Sturm and Drang. Four times now I was facing serious trouble, but thanks to how amazing they are, I was able to claw my way to victory.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I'm frustrated that Una does nothing for the roc and doesn't want to use the less popular Griffons. My friend thinks they should take long leash off the scarfell. It would probably knee cap what makes Una so obnoxious and suddenly the rest of her card might come into play. I think its a good idea but I hope they compensate it some how. The lights are already pretty marginal. They should keep long leash but trade stealth for prowl, imo. Excelsiortothemax posted:I cannot sing higher praises for Sturm and Drang. Four times now I was facing serious trouble, but thanks to how amazing they are, I was able to claw my way to victory. My best win/loss ratio this edition is with them. They're a sleeper hit.
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rydiafan posted:They should keep long leash but trade stealth for prowl, imo. Oh yeah that would probably be sufficient Excelsiortothemax posted:I cannot sing higher praises for Sturm and Drang. Four times now I was facing serious trouble, but thanks to how amazing they are, I was able to claw my way to victory. Apparently they aren't popular? I like the looks of their kit. Sturm has so much defensive tech I honestly keep forgetting about the no charge spell
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rydiafan posted:My best win/loss ratio this edition is with them. They're a sleeper hit. I think I've lost twice with them and that's when I was first learning pigs. He is a top caster and has so many answers to so many problems. He just makes me feel like Mr Pig. SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Oh yeah that would probably be sufficient Polarity Field, TK, Vision and Deceleration are just not fun for your opponent to deal with, especially when combined with Shield Guard from your beasts. The fact that after all those defensive abilities you can then hit a switch and tune your beasts into accurate hard killing machines that can Conga line dance through enemy infantry or rip heavies off the table is a thing of beauty. I really like him in theme since all of his abilities really compliment all of theme models abilities. War Room Army Minions - Sturm and Drang Armory - Steamroller Objective Sturm & Drang - WB: +28 - War Hog - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - War Hog - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13) - Road Hog - PC: 16 - Battle Boar - PC: 7 Meat Thresher - PC: 19 Alten Ashley - PC: 6 Efaarit Scouts - PC: 0 Efaarit Scouts - PC: 0 Swamp Gobber Chef - PC: 1 Farrow Bone Grinders - Leader & 3 Grunts: 5 Farrow Brigands - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Farrow Brigand Warlord - PC: 4 I had the commandos in this list before but they just weren't performing to what the list needed. Swapped them out for brigands and warlord and never looked back.
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I like that he does stuff for the meat thresher. It's too hard to fit that in for other casters. When I try him out I was going to try this War Room Army Minions - S&D Theme: The Thornfall Alliance 75 / 75 Army Sturm & Drang - WB: +28 - Battle Boar - PC: 7 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7) - War Hog - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - Road Hog - PC: 16 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6) - War Hog - PC: 15 - Road Hog - PC: 16 - Gun Boar - PC: 9 Meat Thresher - PC: 19 Alten Ashley - PC: 6 THEME: The Thornfall Alliance --- GENERATED : 01/18/2017 11:29:36 BUILD ID : 2034.17-01-07
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Yeah, agreeing that he's amazing. I gave up on the meat thresher early (and reluctantly) to fit a road hog and more infantry in. He has solutions for so many problems it's amazing. And using polarity field well can be a nightmare for your opponent. Just remember that they can still trample! My only beef is usually not wanting to switch over to Drang and losing those sweet sweet TK's
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Jan 18, 2017 18:00
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Pack hunters and free charges is great but I can easily see match ups where it's unnecessary.
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got an email today from the shop that Privateer is going to be offering 50 point army boxes directly to retailers, skipping over distros entirely whcih is kinda dope
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I finally bit the bullet and picked up some Flame Bringers. I'm not looking forward to assembling them but I am looking forward to them never getting hit with Defender's Ward and working in the new Flameguard theme force
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Jan 18, 2017 18:34
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Yeah I'm kinda tempted to pick up the Cryx one honestly.
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mp5 posted:I finally bit the bullet and picked up some Flame Bringers. I'm not looking forward to assembling them but I am looking forward to them never getting hit with Defender's Ward and working in the new Flameguard theme force Flamebringers on Severius1 are totally good and awesome and I miss them dearly.
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