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steinrokkan posted:I am a Jewish antifascist activist, and my greatest concern is to remove the most prominent Jewish antifascist man from politics for good. Yeah, ID politics can become corrosive and exclusive when taken to absurd extremes.
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OTOH, as much as I agree with Jordan Freiman here, he needs to change his picture, because holy poo poo dude. You're not Che. And you shouldn't want to be Che. Stop trying to look like Che.
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I get more of a wheelchair bound Lt. Dan vibe
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Zikan posted:can't wait for hillary to beat de blasio in the primary with a pro-cop campaign and then lose to Yellin' Ted, the hobo whose entire campaign consists of screaming at drivers on the George Washington bridge Just like a lib, focusing exclusively on Yellin' Ted's body order and unbelievable greasiness rather than listening to what he's telling you about the real mood of people in this cityand how it's all the result of orbital mind control lasers.
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Majorian posted:Don't diminish the importance of knowing Washington's inner workings; it's a big part of why Sanders' campaign ultimately didn't succeed. Care to elaborate? Genuinely, I'm not being sarcastic. I've got faint memories that some of his high-tier campaign staff were inexperienced or made poor choices but I'd love to read a postmortem if you have a link to a good one.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I get more of a wheelchair bound Lt. Dan vibe
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Maybe their health insurance doesn't cover chair 2 head Is Bill DeBlasio Good (tm)? I don't know much about him but his refusal to give the NYPD blowjobs publicly is a nice change of pace for most mayors.
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Majorian posted:Don't diminish the importance of knowing Washington's inner workings; it's a big part of why Sanders' campaign ultimately didn't succeed. I think it's less "knowing Washington's inner workings" and more "having long-term preparation". Sanders' campaign started as a lark and only really got serious halfway through the race, and he primarily failed because he had no idea how to gain the trust of nonwhite voters because he spent his entire career in Vermont.
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zegermans posted:Maybe their health insurance doesn't cover chair 2 head i like him because the cops all turned their chairs around on him once, I don't know if they continue to do that or not.
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zegermans posted:Maybe their health insurance doesn't cover chair 2 head Eh, if he wasn't constantly impeded by Cuomo because he's viewed as a potential primary challenger, he could do better. Even so, he's not that great.
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What exactly do these people find so intrinsically terrifying about "berners" apart from the part where they sometimes criticize people even if they are Democrats, in blatant violation of the sacred Hastert Rule
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loquacius posted:in blatant violation of the sacred Hastert Rule You're thinking of Reagan's 11th Commandment.
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loquacius posted:What exactly do these people find so intrinsically terrifying about "berners" apart from the part where they sometimes criticize people even if they are Democrats, in blatant violation of the sacred Hastert Rule NO TRUE DEMOCRAT!
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I don't see big cities ditching their Dem mayors unless there truly is no hope
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zegermans posted:You're thinking of Reagan's 11th Commandment.  I am, and I can't even blame that on me currently being tired and stressed because I actually did genuinely think that was the Hastert Rule
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Nonsense posted:I don't see big cities ditching their Dem mayors unless there truly is no hope Boston currently has a progressive named Tito Jackson running to replace its Dem incumbent Marty Walsh Tito hasn't really declared on the current factional struggle but he is fairly progressive on things like education and affordable housing, whereas Marty is generally pro-developer and pro-yuppie and roughly indistinguishable from Charlie Baker, our Republican governor and his best friend.
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loquacius posted:Boston currently has a progressive named Tito Jackson running to replace its Dem incumbent Marty Walsh That's probably every major Democrat utopia in the country. Austin's mayor wants skyscrappers and apartments only saudi billionaires can afford
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loquacius posted:What exactly do these people find so intrinsically terrifying about "berners" apart from the part where they sometimes criticize people even if they are Democrats, in blatant violation of the sacred Hastert Rule centrists have no spine, are afraid of breaking status quo
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zegermans posted:Maybe their health insurance doesn't cover chair 2 head Yea I'm not really sure why New Yorkers dislike him, but New Yorkers are garbage people so v  v I think he's pretty great myself.
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loquacius posted:What exactly do these people find so intrinsically terrifying about "berners" apart from the part where they sometimes criticize people even if they are Democrats, in blatant violation of the sacred Hastert Rule It's depressing and scary to think that capitalism isn't screwed up because of accidental racism and sexism, but is irredeemably broken and exploitative by design. Digiwizzard has issued a correction as of 21:58 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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You know I've been putting off going to a local Dem meeting but this gave me enough motivation to get on it, can't let people like this control the party. loquacius posted:Boston currently has a progressive named Tito Jackson running to replace its Dem incumbent Marty Walsh Marty is also very vocally anti-weed even by lovely establishment Dem standards. MaxxBot has issued a correction as of 21:59 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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they say on a quiet night you can still hear Biden desperately trying to leave Walsh a congratulatory voicemail
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Yeah there's a long way to go in Boston when the run-off choice was between Walsh and school privatization proponent John Connolly
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HorseRenoir posted:I think it's less "knowing Washington's inner workings" and more "having long-term preparation". Sanders' campaign started as a lark and only really got serious halfway through the race, and he primarily failed because he had no idea how to gain the trust of nonwhite voters because he spent his entire career in Vermont. You are right, and specifically it's "not having friends / allies in the right places".
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HorseRenoir posted:I think it's less "knowing Washington's inner workings" and more "having long-term preparation". Sanders' campaign started as a lark and only really got serious halfway through the race, and he primarily failed because he had no idea how to gain the trust of nonwhite voters because he spent his entire career in Vermont. He did fine with younger minorities. "He's just a candidate for white people" was just one of the many narratives that got pushed against him.
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Thoguh posted:He did fine with younger minorities. "He's just a candidate for white people" was just one of the many narratives that got pushed against him. When you lose over 80% of black voters, it doesn't really matter that you "did fine" with younger ones. You still are really far away from where you need to be.
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Just gonna requote myself hereloquacius posted:Sanders had a really late start and Jeff Weaver poo poo the bed on the South, so he lost the whole region, and the narrative basically wrote itself from there
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LmaoTheKid posted:*cranes neck to Electoral map to see how much of the south Hillary won* Racist.
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LmaoTheKid posted:*cranes neck to Electoral map to see how much of the south Hillary won* yea why even let southern dems vote???
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The Clintons had a decades-long relationship with af-am leaders, especially in the south. That was a huge advantage, but when you lose South Carolina primary black voters by nearly as much as Trump did it becomes fairly obvious that it was as much a messaging issue as an outreach issue, if not more. For whatever reason, southern black voters weren't buying what Bernie was selling. That's not a spending allocation issue.
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LmaoTheKid posted:*cranes neck to Electoral map to see how much of the south Hillary won* 
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You know you've made it bigly on twitter when you poo poo talk hillary's campaign and get 75 likes in 3 seconds from the bottiest looking bots ever and zero retweets.
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Concerned Citizen posted:The Clintons had a decades-long relationship with af-am leaders, especially in the south. That was a huge advantage, but when you lose South Carolina primary black voters by nearly as much as Trump did it becomes fairly obvious that it was as much a messaging issue as an outreach issue, if not more. For whatever reason, southern black voters weren't buying what Bernie was selling. That's not a spending allocation issue. if bernie had started like two months earlier and written slightly tweaked versions of his stump speech depending on region he would have swept 
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