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Quick question. Was that Radeon Pro SSG thing Amd announced last summer ever released as a commercial product, or was it just a way to get software devs to think in the right direction before the launch of Vega with its HBCC?
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Boiled Water posted:Wasn't this market only a thing because some nerd made a CUDA machine learning library in his bathroom?
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Cingulate posted:All compute stuff I know is still CUDA only. Do AMD really stand a chance to get a foothold in compute? They have a very good crosscompiler now that compiles cuda to their opencl thing. Also, there's a shitload of HPC people who want in on APU processing enough that they simply don't care about ditching CUDA.
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Drakhoran posted:Quick question. Was that Radeon Pro SSG thing Amd announced last summer ever released as a commercial product, or was it just a way to get software devs to think in the right direction before the launch of Vega with its HBCC? It's a real product for $9999, but as a beta product. The current ones for sale are developer kits and actual availability is for 2017, so they can still turn all their Fiji chips into profit and get a return customer for a later Vega upgrade.
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SlayVus posted:1080 Ti confirmed for March release date. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MAqmXYhECM&t=221s HK is an idiot who just wants views and knows nothing about tech. He's just being a view whore, I think I saw jay pick up that same card and say it was just a custom pcb 1080 made for overclocking. 1080ti not confirmed.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I think *everybody* should be running a machine learning library that drive their own personal assistants, as opposed to using Siri/Cortana/Alexa/Google Now/kumquat/engfeh as a matter of personal privacy, but I'm way out there in terms of that kind of thinking. lol, yes, I think running the absolute pinnacle of speech recognition technology developed by thousands of people over decades for your own personal use (presumably for free) on your own hardware so that google doesnt know what poo porn youre into that is still somehow useful without using google's servers is probably a little rich and wasteful (and they still will anyways and still wont care). Not that I say you shouldnt ... but the idea of everybody doing so ... http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-pro-duo-799-usd-price-cut/ I'll be honest, I completely forgot this existed 1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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I made this garbage so I could get a better understanding of the cadence of recent Nvidia GPU releases. That rumour for the GTX 1080 Ti March release seems to be at least somewhat feasible, although there's a surprising lack of credible leaks. If it does exist, I don't think it will raise the absolute performance ceiling, just make Titan X performance more affordable.
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Riflen posted:I made this garbage so I could get a better understanding of the cadence of recent Nvidia GPU releases. That rumour for the GTX 1080 Ti March release seems to be at least somewhat feasible, although there's a surprising lack of credible leaks. If it does exist, I don't think it will raise the absolute performance ceiling, just make Titan X performance more affordable. I made one for amd too 
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Please respect the NDA and remove images of classified AMD management tools.
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Brutal.
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Seems MSI has two different SKUs of my card, clocked differently. I sent my RMA request for the lower clocked card and sent them my higher clocked card. They noted the difference in the "received your package" email but I guess I'll have to look closely at what I get in return.
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Is the Ethereum mining thing still any profitable by this point?
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the panacea posted:I'm currently using a XB271hu and a 1070. I have till the 31st of Jan to send the card back and get a full return. Don't do it.
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1gnoirents posted:lol, yes, I think running the absolute pinnacle of speech recognition technology developed by thousands of people over decades for your own personal use (presumably for free) on your own hardware so that google doesnt know what poo porn youre into that is still somehow useful without using google's servers is probably a little rich and wasteful (and they still will anyways and still wont care). Not that I say you shouldnt ... but the idea of everybody doing so ... Alexa, make a poo poo post.
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Mikojan posted:Don't do it. 1070 has been fine for me and my 271hu except for battlefield 1. Though I'm blaming my cpu on that (i5-3550) Averages 40ish on DX11 at 2560x1440
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ItBurns posted:Alexa, make a poo poo post. please let me justify my google home ...  havenwaters posted:1070 has been fine for me and my 271hu except for battlefield 1. Though I'm blaming my cpu on that (i5-3550) Averages 40ish on DX11 at 2560x1440 Yes the bottleneck is elsewhere at the same resolution and GPU its solidly over 60 fps for me. That is a classic example of "online gaming never benchmarked". This has been the case for every Battlefield game in particular as well - every mhz makes a difference online (vs virtually nothing at all in SP) 1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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the panacea posted:I'm currently using a XB271hu and a 1070. I have till the 31st of Jan to send the card back and get a full return. Get Titan XP, no buyer's remorse when 1080 to comes out.
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Is there a general architectural difference from the non-Ti to the Ti versions of a graphics card beyond a "Pro/Plus" boost to performance?
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ufarn posted:Is there a general architectural difference from the non-Ti to the Ti versions of a graphics card beyond a "Pro/Plus" boost to performance? Yes, they are different chips. The ti cards are actually modified versions of the Titan cards, not modified 780/980 cards.
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I'm saving for this card https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeF...1080+waterforce should I wait for the 1080ti?
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That's a really expensive 1080, you could probably wait and get a 1080 Ti for only a bit more or just buy a 1080 now for $600 or less. What resolution do you game at and what kind of frame rates are you trying to push?
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MaxxBot posted:That's a really expensive 1080, you could probably wait and get a 1080 Ti for only a bit more or just buy a 1080 now for $600 or less. What resolution do you game at and what kind of frame rates are you trying to push? I had the 980ti version of that card and loved it for the fact that it got really good temps and was quiet as its in a very compact case, Ncase M1. I play at 1440p currently.
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Coredump posted:I had the 980ti version of that card and loved it for the fact that it got really good temps and was quiet as its in a very compact case, Ncase M1. I play at 1440p currently. But do you really need water cooling on 180W? On the 250W 980Ti I'm sure it's great. I would wait either way to see what the 1080Ti would cost and if it pushes 1080's down at all.
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Overclocked 1080s can break 250 watts, I don't think they're regularly getting into the 300 watt range, but one hitting 250 watts is quite normal. On the other hand, water cooling is way overkill and I'd wait for an air cooled 1080 ti for maybe just a bit more that you could run non overclocked with the fan speeds way down and get significantly better performance for the same or even less noise.
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I'm sure that thing is neat but I'm expecting the 1080ti to be had for around $800 (after a few weeks perhaps) which is a little too close in price for what is certainly a much better performing card. Now that isn't based on anything except the history of x80 ti's but if you can hold off I would personally. Watercooling *can* be hilariously silent though The other thing is the 980ti and 1080 aren't hugely different as well tbh
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I doubt I will get it but my only requirement I have right now is a noticeable improvement to my SLI 980ti
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Yeah I think the 1080 would be kind of an unsatisfying upgrade from a 980Ti, the 1080Ti would be much more of a noticeable difference.
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MaxxBot posted:Yeah I think the 1080 would be kind of an unsatisfying upgrade from a 980Ti, the 1080Ti would be much more of a noticeable difference. Went from 980 ti to Titan XP, best VR experience I've had. I didn't have SLI, but SLI still doesn't function in VR.
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I think the 1080 is an 'ok' upgrade, a 1070 would be a waste, but I agree that the 1080Ti/XP would be a much better upgrade and is what I am waiting out for with my 980ti.
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ColHannibal posted:I doubt I will get it but my only requirement I have right now is a noticeable improvement to my SLI 980ti EdEddnEddy posted:I think the 1080 is an 'ok' upgrade, a 1070 would be a waste, but I agree that the 1080Ti/XP would be a much better upgrade and is what I am waiting out for with my 980ti. Yeah, this is where I fall on this issue as well. The 1070 and 980 Ti are basically the same performance once you overclock both of them. The 1080 is about 25% faster than those. That's about the minimum increment I consider noticeable, but it's not going to be a massive upgrade. Also, due to the way GPU requirements end up working out right now, that extra 25% isn't usually going to make or break you. The 1070/980 Ti are very capable cards for 1440p, you should be able to very easily do 60fps+ with ultra settings in most games. With those figures, the 1080 buys you 75 fps, which isn't that huge a difference unless you don't have GSync, and if you don't have a 144 Hz monitor you may not even notice it. On the other hand, the 1080 still isn't really enough for 4K gaming in all situations yet, so it doesn't buy you that little extra leap that the Titan/1080 Ti would give you. Bear in mind that the value of your card is always going down over time, but each time you upgrade you also incur eBay/Paypal/shipping fees right then, so flipping isn't free either. You have to ask yourself if a few extra frames is worth it. Personally, if you don't have a GSync monitor, I highly highly encourage you to upgrade to a 27" 1440p GSync monitor. These are now the standard monitor for gaming, they aren't really extravagantly priced, they last a really long time (especially if you just pony up for an IPS panel the first time so you don't feel the urge to upgrade - the monitor itself will easily last 5 years), they reduce the need for GPU performance and/or upgrades (anything above 40 and you're golden) and 144 Hz/Gsync is a massive quality of life improvement. I'd easily prefer have a 980 non-ti playing at 50fps on a GSync panel than a 1080 playing at 80fps on a non-GSync panel. Best $300 I've spent on gaming in a long time. I personally like either the XB270HU or the Dell S2716DG, this is where I think the best balance of quality and value are. Owned them both, they're both nearly equals. The XB271HU is slightly nicer, but it's also $100 more expensive. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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I tell you though. That drop from 250w to 180w sounds awesome for my use case. Get same/better performance for less wattage and heat? Hell yeah.
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it only really matters if you are using a slim case unless you done hosed up real bad, a regular case or cube has enough airflow for a 980ti to breathe and switching to a 1080 will drop your in-case temperature by like 3 degrees otoh your frames will go up 18 to 28% so you can decide whether that's worth the tradeup
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be the first person to buy a 1080ti so we can be like wow look at this tryhard Edit: I just checked bf1 again, by far the most graphical game I play, and I still manage 80+ fps on ultra with "just" a 1070 at 1440p. I may truly have no reason to get a 1080ti unless there are cheap gsync monitors on the horizon
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Coredump posted:I tell you though. That drop from 250w to 180w sounds awesome for my use case. Get same/better performance for less wattage and heat? Hell yeah. You can undervolt/underlock a lot on Pascal too to save power since the GPUs are very overtuned on the frequency/voltage curve at stock. If GPU-Z and MSI Afterburner is to be believed I'm only pulling ~60W in games by my 1070 @ 1607MHz core on 0.8250V
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:it only really matters if you are using a slim case Didn't he say he has an Ncase M1? That doesn't seem like a regular case at all.
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Grundulum posted:Didn't he say he has an Ncase M1? That doesn't seem like a regular case at all. (missed to read some of his posts  )
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With so many card options right now, I'm sorta stuck like a deer in the headlights. I have a dell 144hz gsynch monitor, and I built a computer this summer but never had the budget till now to finish it with the graphics card. Whats the best performance for value card I can get to make use of my monitor (PC is 16gigs of ram, and an i5-6600k) I'm hoping to spend around or less than 400. Big bonus points if best buy sells it because I have some store credit there. (as of right now overwatch is the game I'm trying to play the most, with some older games on steam I would like to finally catch up on such as skyrim and witcher and project cars) Edit: VVV I should mention I am looking for a 1070 and that there's a ton of options in that range that I don't know which one to go with. Nitramster fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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Should be able to find a 1070 for under $400 that would pair nicely with that gsync monitor.
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Coredump posted:I tell you though. That drop from 250w to 180w sounds awesome for my use case. Get same/better performance for less wattage and heat? Hell yeah. Have you run the numbers on how much this is going to cost you per month? How many hours do you game that causes your card to draw full power, divided by 1000, then times how much per kilowatt-hour? You'll probably spend at least $75-100 to swap to a 1070 with equivalent performance, let alone a 1080.
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Nitramster posted:With so many card options right now, I'm sorta stuck like a deer in the headlights. Literally whatever is cheapest, unless it's the crappy plastic blower cooler on the lowest-end cards They all perform pretty much the same in the end. Although even the crappy plastic blower cards have their uses - you can just rip the cooler off and install an EVGA Hybrid kit or an NZXT G10 bracket plus an AIO. In which case you may want to double check the manufacturer will honor your warrenty if you do that (EVGA will). EVGA ACX is good. MSI Armor is good. Gigabyte WindForce is good. None are best in class, all are good value for the money. If you are in the NVIDIA ecosystem, are at 1440p and on any sort of a budget the 1070 is definitely the right answer nowadays. If you are at 1080p the 1060 may be enough.
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