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The Big Jesus posted:So if the Titans take Mike Williams at the 5, who do we take with the later pick? The other Mike Williams, when they realize they accidentally drafted USC Mine Williams
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The Big Jesus posted:So if the Titans take Mike Williams at the 5, who do we take with the later pick? Best available corner
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The Big Jesus posted:So if the Titans take Mike Williams at the 5, who do we take with the later pick? Trade it to the Browns for two more future firsts.
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So what the Browns gonna do? Take Myles Garrett or trade the first for like 5 future firsts and thus 5 busts?
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Gatts posted:So what the Browns gonna do? Take Myles Garrett or trade the first for like 5 future firsts and thus 5 busts? Trade with the Jets and they'll both gently caress up their picks.
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Deshaun Watson has declined his Senior Bowl invite. This could indicate that he thinks he's a lock for a high 1st pick but Teddy also skipped and he fell to the end of the round.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Deshaun Watson has declined his Senior Bowl invite. This could indicate that he thinks he's a lock for a high 1st pick but Teddy also skipped and he fell to the end of the round. Hahahahaha, I laugh so hard when reminded of the circumstances of Teddy's draft position. Poor loving Texans. And they didn't get Carr either!   I haven't ever had more fun watching the draft, and I never will again. Every loving quarterback to come out of the first 2 rounds of that draft is worlds better than anything the Texans have trotted out at QB since. And yes, that includes Johnny Manziel, somehow. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jan 18, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/821748209106173952Gatts posted:So what the Browns gonna do? Take Myles Garrett or trade the first for like 5 future firsts and thus 5 busts? Take the BPA on their board or trade down. They seem to be getting better about the draft with the analytics guys in place.
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Chilichimp posted:Every loving quarterback to come out of the first 2 rounds of that draft is worlds better than anything the Texans have trotted out at QB since. And yes, that includes Johnny Manziel, somehow. Fitzpatrick as a Texan was way better than JFF but otherwise yes Also Hoyer had a really solid season that was overshadowed by his playoff meltdown Diva Cupcake posted:Deshaun Watson has declined his Senior Bowl invite. This could indicate that he thinks he's a lock for a high 1st pick but Teddy also skipped and he fell to the end of the round. I'd be cool with this happening to Watson too
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Why would anyone even want to trade up in this draft? Garrett is the 1a but has questions about him, Allen is unexciting but looks to be very good, and then a whole lot of 'eh he's ok I guess' where you'd hope to draft those players at #10 instead of #3-5.
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No one thought teams would spend the draft capital to trade up for Wentz/Goff and here we are. It's way too early in the process to measure hype + team desperation.
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mastershakeman posted:Why would anyone even want to trade up in this draft? Garrett is the 1a but has questions about him, Allen is unexciting but looks to be very good, and then a whole lot of 'eh he's ok I guess' where you'd hope to draft those players at #10 instead of #3-5. Desperation to get "their guy" at qb, stupidity, fear that someone else will trade ahead of you to get the guy you want.
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Diva Cupcake posted:It's way too early in the process to measure hype + team desperation. It's amazing how many times I have to say this and people will still come into draft threads making claims and arguing about them when no one will be right come April.
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Jan 18, 2017 21:57
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Imagine trading for Goff and keeping your job.
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Imagine passing up coordinating an offense featuring Shady and Sammy and Woods to take a job as a position coach where your task is to make Jared Goff good
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Half the guys pegged for round 1 right now end up being Day 2 or worse picks come April. Still waiting for Marqise Lee to become a superstar.
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Intruder posted:I don't care I want my mock drafts texans: probably taco charlton lol
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Intruder posted:I don't care I want my mock drafts Would you like some Brad Kaaya?
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Diva Cupcake posted:Deshaun Watson has declined his Senior Bowl invite. This could indicate that he thinks he's a lock for a high 1st pick but Teddy also skipped and he fell to the end of the round. Hue is coaching in the Senior Bowl this year to. There's been some excitement that he'd use the chance to evaluate potential qb's. Looks like Watson is purposely avoiding a possible Browns pick.
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corn on the cop posted:Half the guys pegged for round 1 right now end up being Day 2 or worse picks come April. Same God dammit, you were the supposed to be the chosen one 
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The wide receiver class from that year really threw me for a loop. My rankings were Evans-Watkins-Landry-Robinson-Cooks-Beckham-Lee-Benjamin. In reality it turns out beckham was way better than I thought, Lee was way worse and Watkins was kind of a disappointment. I was at least right about how sneaky awesome Allen Robinson was. And I still have no idea where to put benjamin.
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Beckham is going to be one of those people out of the NFL in 2 years because he can't control his tantrums
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Azhais posted:Beckham is going to be one of those people
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Doltos posted:It's amazing how many times I have to say this and people will still come into draft threads making claims and arguing about them when no one will be right come April. We don't even have 40 times yet!
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Beckham wasn't ranked highly because Zach Mettenberger can't throw a football. His stock exploded after scouts really dug into his tape.
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corn on the cop posted:Beckham wasn't ranked highly because Zach Mettenberger can't throw a football. His stock exploded after scouts really dug into his tape. Ahh yes, the Megatron effect.
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Calvin was an absolute genetic freak. His size and ability was always going to stand out. Guys that aren't Galactus physically are going to slip under the radar with bad quarterback play. lmao tinyhands
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corn on the cop posted:Beckham wasn't ranked highly because Zach Mettenberger can't throw a football. His stock exploded after scouts really dug into his tape. I mean, LSU had two 1000 yard receivers that year in a run focused offense. Beckham wasn't exactly a hidden gem, he and Landry were both very productive.
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Just as far as I remember a lot of the narrative that year was that Beckham was the beneficiary of Landry's amazing play and the defense having to focus on him. Everyone said his route running was better but that Landry was better in every other way. Edit: Up until the draft most mocks had him falling to the Panthers and being like the 5th receiver drafted (after evans, watkins, landry and cooks)
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Odell was pretty much always rated higher than Landry because he has elite speed. I don't think any mock anywhere had Landry in the first round whereas most all of them had Odell there after the 2013 season. Landry was a lot like Nuk Hopkins, a sure handed possession guy who was seen as a good compliment to the more dynamic receivers they played with.
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While we're on the subject, here were Odell's measureables: http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/4330/ Peep his top athletic comparable.
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ZenVulgarity posted:His bench is hilarious He must've stopped giving a poo poo because I can do that much and I'm out of shape as gently caress. Anyhow, for years I've been wanting the Cowboys to get a top flight safety, and it seems like they won't even be able to sniff one this time around. Should I be sold on Byron Jones? He doesn't come off as that midfielder-type safety to me. Is it too soon?
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zimbomonkey posted:And I still have no idea where to put benjamin. Soon to be out of the league from fatness. John Brown posted:He must've stopped giving a poo poo because I can do that much and I'm out of shape as gently caress. A good bench is very anatomically unforgiving in a way that squats and deadlifts aren't. Some people just don't have the shoulders for it.
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No WR gets drafted on the strength of their bench so why practice for it or try at it during the combine
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corn on the cop posted:Beckham wasn't ranked highly because Zach Mettenberger can't throw a football. His stock exploded after scouts really dug into his tape. Yeah I was really low on him and didn't like the pick at all at the time. I believe my top five at the time was Watkins - Evans - Cooks - Benjamin - Lee with Moncrief, Odell, Landry, and Allen all fighting for the sixth spot.
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I was farting around with that and man check out Anquan http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/2582/
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It's pretty sick how well most of them turned out. FWIW here's Mayock's pre-draft positional ranking. Wide receiver 1. Sammy Watkins, Clemson 2. Mike Evans, Texas A&M 3. Marqise Lee, USC 4. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State t5. Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State t5. Jarvis Landry, LSU t5. Odell Beckham, LSU e: Of course... Quarterback 1. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M
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