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Katana Gomai posted:just lol Uh not getting a protector on an otherwise unprotected screen that you're going to be putting in your pocket/carrying around with you is idiotic at best
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Jimmy Hats posted:Uh not getting a protector on an otherwise unprotected screen that you're going to be putting in your pocket/carrying around with you is idiotic at best 
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Jan 19, 2017 17:30
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Katana Gomai posted:just lol I may end up cancelling it. I have gone through every handheld Nintendo has launched without a screen protector and without issue, including every model of 3DS. Something about the exposed screen as opposed to the clamshell has me kind of worried (despite the clamshell pressure marks being what usually ends up damaging a screen).
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s.i.r.e. posted:I wonder if there's going to be a day-one patch for it, my friend's a big Isaac fan and he says Afterbirth+ sucks because I guess the new enemies are lame and unfair to fight. They fixed it though on PC after the complaints started to roll in, I assume whatever's on the cartridge is pre-patch. The PS4 basic comes with the console voice chat is a single earbud that plugs into the controller for voicechat. Which is the same thing as your phone being the voicechat. Granted you can upgrade to gaming headphones with a mic, and we have no idea if you can do that on switch. Second concern is based on how they build the app. android now has a game mode where you launch an app from it and it wont let things like phone calls interrupt the app. Basically giving it higher priority if you keep getting hot business calls while trying to bomber the other mans.
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Jimmy Hats posted:Uh not getting a protector on an otherwise unprotected screen that you're going to be putting in your pocket/carrying around with you is idiotic at best I haven't needed a screen protector for anything except elite beat agents and I won't need it for the switch either.
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Jan 19, 2017 17:32
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Pureauthor posted:Having it available as an app is a great idea. Yeah, I'm really not understanding why in any world they would think requiring a smart phone to play online would be a good idea. Sure most people have one, but it seems like there's plenty of use cases where needing one might be a problem. Phone needs to charge, phone has unsupported platform (Windows phone lol) or maybe even unsupported OS version? What about less powerful, older phones? Like how often are you going to want to play online on the go that it's really worth it to totally handicap the at-home online experience?
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Pureauthor posted:Having it available as an app is a great idea. Do we have any detailed view at what is on the console versus the phone app? If its as simple as joining a Quick Match type game with the console, but needing the app to form parties and use voice chat, it might work. They really need to come out with some details and put all this speculation to rest. Oxyclean posted:Yeah, I'm really not understanding why in any world they would think requiring a smart phone to play online would be a good idea. Sure most people have one, but it seems like there's plenty of use cases where needing one might be a problem. Phone needs to charge, phone has unsupported platform (Windows phone lol) or maybe even unsupported OS version? What about less powerful, older phones? Required for online play or required to form a lobby and play with a group are two very different things.
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Jan 19, 2017 17:33
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I heard they are making a new Mario RPG, but it's some sort of cross with some cartoon rabbits or something?
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Nintendo home consoles including the WiiU got awesome ifixit scores for repairability, by contrast switching the upper display on a (3)ds is guaranteed to gently caress you right the gently caress up I'm hoping it's closer to the WiiU gamepad design than an iPad  
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Jan 19, 2017 17:34
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Jimmy Hats posted:Uh not getting a protector on an otherwise unprotected screen that you're going to be putting in your pocket/carrying around with you is idiotic at best How big are your pants if you expect to put the Switch in your pocket?
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Katana Gomai posted:let me put it this way: there's a "quick restart" function on PC but it's not present in any of the console versions because, and I quote, we ran out of buttons on the gamepad FTL is the superior Roguelike.
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Nephzinho posted:Do we have any detailed view at what is on the console versus the phone app? If its as simple as joining a Quick Match type game with the console, but needing the app to form parties and use voice chat, it might work. They really need to come out with some details and put all this speculation to rest. That sounds like what it is.
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Nephzinho posted:FTL is the superior Roguelike. They aren't similar at all except for the fact that people call both roguelikes
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Oxyclean posted:Yeah, I'm really not understanding why in any world they would think requiring a smart phone to play online would be a good idea. Sure most people have one, but it seems like there's plenty of use cases where needing one might be a problem. Phone needs to charge, phone has unsupported platform (Windows phone lol) or maybe even unsupported OS version? What about less powerful, older phones? Well it's the only way for them to guarantee exactly identical experience when stationary and portable, that's the only thing I can think of
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Oxyclean posted:How big are your pants if you expect to put the Switch in your pocket? It is winter https://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=lp_1028...nid=10287217011
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Nephzinho posted:Do we have any detailed view at what is on the console versus the phone app? If its as simple as joining a Quick Match type game with the console, but needing the app to form parties and use voice chat, it might work. They really need to come out with some details and put all this speculation to rest. Have they come out and said you'll be able to play online without needing the app? Their messaging about online has kinda loving sucked so far because it's come out over several different interviews. It still seems astronomically dumb that I won't be able to party up or "join friend" through the game itself.
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What the hell is the difference? You have to use it to match make before you join a game.
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Oxyclean posted:Have they come out and said you'll be able to play online without needing the app? Their messaging about online has kinda loving sucked so far because it's come out over several different interviews. It still seems astronomically dumb that I won't be able to party up or "join friend" through the game itself. You need it just to be able to get online and play a game for even the most basic functions as Matchmaking. http://www.techradar.com/news/the-nintendo-switch-will-need-its-smartphone-app-for-online-matchmaking Obvious retardation on this decision behind, if playing a multiplayer game on the go, which is fairly easy to do with a 3DS, you now have to tether to your phone's internet data plan, use the app on your phone, power on your phone as well as the power of the switch, blue tooth from your phone and not the switch while in portable mode (That's even more ridiculous) and yeah... Basically I think people are right. It's an OEM version of Discord and Nintendo didn't have time, or didn't want to take the time, to make improvements on their online platform service when they were making VERY awesome strides as of the Wii U and New 3DS. Why they ditched that platform, who knows. Utnayan fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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Personally I am going to wait for the forthcoming promised details with regards to Nintendo's online system for the Switch instead of whipping myself up in a speculative frenzy about the three sentences that have been said about it
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RCarr posted:I heard they are making a new Mario RPG, but it's some sort of cross with some cartoon rabbits or something? I don't %100 believe this. People say they heard it from Ubisoft sources and a video they recently put out has a Mario and Luigi as rabbids doll in the background. But what if the sources are just people who worked on the video making assumptions, and those dolls are just trinkets someone at Ubisoft got at some point due to their close relationship with Nintendo.
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deadwing posted:Personally I am going to wait for the forthcoming promised details with regards to Nintendo's online system for the Switch instead of whipping myself up in a speculative frenzy about the three sentences that have been said about it Didn't they have a big swerve early on with Wii U's online stuff? Like it was real dumb at first and then they implemented the Nintendo ID stuff and then it was less dumb? Kinda wondering if we'll see something similar.
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Yeah I really don't think it's going to be impossible to join an online game without getting on your telephone first
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deadwing posted:Personally I am going to wait for the forthcoming promised details with regards to Nintendo's online system for the Switch instead of whipping myself up in a speculative frenzy about the three sentences that have been said about it I thought speculative frenzy was what the Switch's all about
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Well it's the only way for them to guarantee exactly identical experience when stationary and portable, that's the only thing I can think of ... isn't this probably the exact reason? I mean. That makes an absurd amount of sense.
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deadwing posted:Personally I am going to wait for the forthcoming promised details with regards to Nintendo's online system for the Switch instead of whipping myself up in a speculative frenzy about the three sentences that have been said about it It's already out. * One game a month you can't keep * Smart Device required for use on the switch whether at home (Docked) or away. It is needed to do any online function - including basic matchmaking, but also needed for lobbies, voice chat, etc. * October people will be paying for it. And that's the only unknown at this point - is the price. quote:Yeah I really don't think it's going to be impossible to join an online game without getting on your telephone first It is required. quote:In fact, the app’s functionality actually goes as far as enabling matchmaking and allowing you to create lobbies, suggesting that your online options are going to be pretty slim without your smartphone.
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Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb vocalized many of my worries really well in their latest episode: https://soundcloud.com/giantbombcast/giant-bombcast-464-season-of-the-switch#t=1:22:50 (time tag included) There were some points before that point but that rant had the most of it. Lack of focus would summarize it fairly well, I guess.
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greatn posted:People say they heard it from Ubisoft sources and a video they recently put out has a Mario and Luigi as rabbids doll in the background.
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Dessel posted:Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb vocalized many of my worries really well in their latest episode: That's spot on the money.
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Utnayan posted:* Smart Device required for use on the switch whether at home (Docked) or away. It is needed to do any online function - including basic matchmaking, but also needed for lobbies, voice chat, etc. Please link to me your quote from Nintendo saying the only way to get into an online match is through your cell phone
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Utnayan posted:It is required. Naw that's techradar guessing from a couple of vague sentences
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Utnayan posted:What the hell is the difference? You have to use it to match make before you join a game. The difference between turning on Splatoon and hopping into a game solo queue without voice chat and getting together with 3 other guys on comms. If you can't use any online functionality at all without the app, that will be a pain in the dick even if I keep an ipad on the coffee table.
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TFRazorsaw posted:... isn't this probably the exact reason? I mean. That makes an absurd amount of sense. It's not a very good reason but I mean the "functional parity" or whatever they've chosen to call it's obviously been a priority in the product design
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deadwing posted:Please link to me your quote from Nintendo saying the only way to get into an online match is through your cell phone Nintendo today has this quote from Reggie, via a gamespot interview: quote:The smart phone app that we’re creating, that will be part of our online service, we believe is going to be a very compelling part of the overall proposition because that’s how you’ll voice chat, that’s how you’ll do your matchmaking, and create your lobby. We also think it’s a very elegant solution because if you’ve taken your switch on the go, you’ve put yourself in a hotspot, you’re looking at get a quick match of Mario Kart in, to whip out some sort of bulky, gamer headset is a bit of a challenge. Unless Reggie is using the term matchmaking wrong, that's generally how you get into an online match.
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Requiring a device, not even made by Nintendo, to use voice chat, matchmaking and inviting friends to play online is incredibly stupid. Will probably be changed within a year or two once they realize no reasonable person wants that to be the only option.
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I think you guys are wrong about solo queue requiring a phone
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I just found out that Super Mario Run uses Friend Codes for multiplayer. 
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Oxyclean posted:Nintendo today has this quote from Reggie, via a gamespot interview: Let me bold that quote too quote:The smart phone app that we’re creating, that will be part of our online service, we believe is going to be a very compelling part of the overall proposition
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Oxyclean posted:Nintendo today has this quote from Reggie, via a gamespot interview: And what's even worse, is they could have easily just thrown blue tooth on the switch itself and a basic online functionality to support matchmaking like it stands on the 3DS currently, yet there is Reggie (Who is most definitely just playing damage control to what he already knows is poo poo design) by saying no one wants to carry around a bulky headset? That wouldn't be needed had blue tooth lived on the console.
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I'd expect it to be like a Microsoft Smart Glass situation, where it just kind of acts as a stand-in for the overlay? But yeah it's gonna be dumb if that's how you need to do voice chat. But I guess not much dumber than it is on 3DS, where I have to use discord if I wanna be on voice in Monster Hunter.
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I would be shocked if there's no Quickmatch button on Splatoon 2 But Nintendo. Still sufficiently vague wording that pronouncing, SEE YOU NEED IT, is premature.
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