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Also a trans woman originally called Bradley, which isn't relevant to any of the above but even odds the RWM will keep on calling her Bradley.
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bird food bathtub posted:Was a low ranking soldier in the US Army. Copied an absolute poo poo ton of classified communications and handed it all to Assange. All got put up on Wikileaks, Assange went into rape-hiding. Manning was arrested, tried, convicted and locked up. Obama commuted the rest of the thirty something year sentence. Also, I think [someone fact-check me here, I'm begging you] she wasn't revealing extremely hush-hush keep this on the down low info that could get people killed by outing spies. It was stuff like war crimes we were committing. Firing on civilians and stuff like that.
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If I recall it was also the time Wikileaks was beginning its slide into Assange's partisan madness so he didn't bother vetting or censoring any of the information in them which included a lot of personal info of regular private citizens? Or was that a different Wikileaks "gently caress you"?
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RareAcumen posted:Also, I think [someone fact-check me here, I'm begging you] she wasn't revealing extremely hush-hush keep this on the down low info that could get people killed by outing spies. It was stuff like war crimes we were committing. Firing on civilians and stuff like that. There also were a bunch of diplomatic cables in there that turned out to be pretty embarrassing for a number of governments. But yeah, the overall security impacts of the leaks were found to be moderate to low, and no deaths were ever be found to have been caused by them. If there had been any deaths, they would have been certain to be thrown at Manning during her trial.
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Alkydere posted:We like to think that but the real reason Texas is not allowed to secede in the modern day is that we have enough of the nation's oil that the Pentagon would start Gulf War III: Welcome to the Gulf of Mexico if we actually looked like we might secede. gently caress that, I say we let Texas secede and then arm Mexico and watch the fun happen.
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Pierson posted:If I recall it was also the time Wikileaks was beginning its slide into Assange's partisan madness so he didn't bother vetting or censoring any of the information in them which included a lot of personal info of regular private citizens? The Chelsea Manning stuff was not as much of a mass-release "gently caress you" as the later stuff that got strategically leaked to them. Either Wikileaks is completely compromised by his hackery or he is so dumb that he doesn't understand how information has trajectory and that even supplying his outfit with documents has motive behind it.
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Zipperelli. posted:Can someone tl;dr the Chelsea Manning thing? I feel like I missed something huge and a cursory Google search had me wanting to dip my router in Lysol for the filth that came up (I currently know zero about who she is and/or why people hate her). This is one of the more infamous things that came out from the Manning leaks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFZlRiTHuw
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RareAcumen posted:Also, I think [someone fact-check me here, I'm begging you] she wasn't revealing extremely hush-hush keep this on the down low info that could get people killed by outing spies. It was stuff like war crimes we were committing. Firing on civilians and stuff like that. Yup. A lot of it wasn't ultra top secret stuff but rather stuff that both made America look bad and showed that the government lied about the wars a lot. Which also made America look bad.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Yup. A lot of it wasn't ultra top secret stuff but rather stuff that both made America look bad and showed that the government lied about the wars a lot. Which also made America look bad. Being that he was like... a fuckin' specialist, I'd say his access to ultra-important, national security-damaging information was somewhat limited.
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Today on Glenn Beck's show: "I'm a gay Muslim Pakistani immigrant and I'm here to talk with you about how liberals are the worst people on the planet and only conservatives truly care about me."
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Chilichimp posted:Being that he was like... a fuckin' specialist, I'd say his access to ultra-important, national security-damaging information was somewhat limited. From what I've heard information security in the military and government is painfully bad. She probably could have gotten more.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:From what I've heard information security in the military and government is painfully bad. She probably could have gotten more. Got damnit, why do I keep loving this up? I'm the worst.
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Pierson posted:If I recall it was also the time Wikileaks was beginning its slide into Assange's partisan madness so he didn't bother vetting or censoring any of the information in them which included a lot of personal info of regular private citizens? That was during Erdogan's consolidation of power during the staged coup--they published names, addresses, and contact info of a lot of people, especially women.
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Chilichimp posted:Got damnit, why do I keep loving this up? I'm the worst. You'll get used to it. Took me about a year to call my friend by her new name.
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So how hard are conservative media outlets who criticized Obama for not helping Aleppo sucking Putin's dick right now? ugh I'm browsing conservative twitter right now    Also how does Beck's kissing the ring now square with his little turn a month ago? Is he just pretending now that he never did that?
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Chilichimp posted:Got damnit, why do I keep loving this up? I'm the worst. What is the appropriate pronoun for referring to a trans person's activities before they accept their gender identity? I was under the impression that Manning hadn't come to grips with her gender identity at the time.
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Nigel Farage to become commentator on Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Gross.
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Keeshhound posted:What is the appropriate pronoun for referring to a trans person's activities before they accept their gender identity? I was under the impression that Manning hadn't come to grips with her gender identity at the time. refer to them as they are now
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Chilichimp posted:Got damnit, why do I keep loving this up? I'm the worst. Doing it on purpose makes you a jerk. Doing it accidentally is fine. Context and intent are everything.
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Rick_Hunter posted:You'll get used to it. Took me about a year to call my friend by her new name. Yeah, a year is about right. Whenever I have to email my transitioning friend I have to ask her to remind me of her original masculine name.
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Jazerus posted:I died a little on the inside when I heard two of my students (high school freshmen) talking about how cool Louder With Crowder is. Can you put a note on their ~permanent record~?
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PJOmega posted:Yeah, a year is about right. Whenever I have to email my transitioning friend I have to ask her to remind me of her original masculine name. I have no issues referring to my trans friend by him and he but when I talk about our past history it's really loving hard not to say she and her. Lucky for me he kept his name, which was gender ambiguous to begin with, lord knows I'd probably get constantly tripped up by that.
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Xibanya posted:So how hard are conservative media outlets who criticized Obama for not helping Aleppo sucking Putin's dick right now? Being post-factual has its advantages Keeshhound posted:What is the appropriate pronoun for referring to a trans person's activities before they accept their gender identity? I was under the impression that Manning hadn't come to grips with her gender identity at the time. I find it the most convenient to just refer to a person by the sex they publicly consider themselves, regardless of what they are currently. Saves time. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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DrNutt posted:I have no issues referring to my trans friend by him and he but when I talk about our past history it's really loving hard not to say she and her. Lucky for me he kept his name, which was gender ambiguous to begin with, lord knows I'd probably get constantly tripped up by that. A friend of mine from Highschool changed her name completely and it's super hard, when referring to past memories, to not refer to her old name/gender.
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Just saw on NBC, regarding the protests today, Megyn Kelly said we have to "respect the office." So that's back after exactly 0 days of Republican leadership.
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Keeshhound posted:What is the appropriate pronoun for referring to a trans person's activities before they accept their gender identity? I was under the impression that Manning hadn't come to grips with her gender identity at the time. You'll almost never be wrong using the gender they identify as. And if for some reason somebody doesn't want you to do that, they will let you know.
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https://twitter.com/owillis/status/822575866337181697 Good ol' alcoholic Alex Jones.
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Die Sexmonster! posted:Just saw on NBC, regarding the protests today, Megyn Kelly said we have to "respect the office." So that's back after exactly 0 days of Republican leadership. That is such an asinine concept. An office is a title, it's something a culture creates to basically delegate authority in some area of society and ensure the perpetuation of the cultural system after the death/resignation/time limit runs out of an individual within the office. The respect afforded to the title is worth only as much as the individual who inhabits it deserves, based on competence and legitimacy, and on at least one of those metrics the Office of President of the United States is now worthless and worth giving no respect.
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Respecting the office to me is being willing to admit that the President has the authority and right to do things according to the Constitution It does not mean I have to like any of them
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Shugojin posted:Respecting the office to me is being willing to admit that the President has the authority and right to do things according to the Constitution What do you think it means to Kelly and her ilk?
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The letter 'R' is next to the name. Until Donnie does something bad and Fox News mistakenly switches it with a 'D'.
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PhazonLink posted:The letter 'r' is next to the name. Yeah, after years of slandering Obama, it's demonstrably this.
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So, I caught the swearing in before I went to work. (on Al Jazeera English, no less) Is there any particular reason that the VP's oath of office is four times as long as the actual President's?
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Mister Macys posted:So, I caught the swearing in before I went to work. (on Al Jazeera English, no less) Because Pence is an adult and will keep an eye on Donnie there so he doesn't do a 'Donnie Don't'.
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remusclaw posted:What do you think it means to Kelly and her ilk? I know, I know 
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DC Murderverse posted:https://twitter.com/owillis/status/822575866337181697 busted, tries to be smooth about it but already admitted it. I can't believe people look at his website and follow him for news we ar efuvkced.
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Can anyone describe Alex Jones' voice accurately? it sounds like he swallowed gravel but the gravel is fighting back
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tote up a bags posted:Can anyone describe Alex Jones' voice accurately? it sounds like he swallowed gravel but the gravel is fighting back It's a lawnmower engine that never starts no matter how much you yank on the starter
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Rick_Hunter posted:Because Pence is an adult and will keep an eye on Donnie there so he doesn't do a 'Donnie Don't'. I need a photoshop of that book from The Simpsons, with Trump on it. Don't Do What Donnie Don't Does 
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tote up a bags posted:Can anyone describe Alex Jones' voice accurately? it sounds like he swallowed gravel but the gravel is fighting back It is my hope that he is dying of throat cancer.
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