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Thoguh posted:Has Trump resigned yet? I'm sure he'll get around to it as soon as his big fancy party ends
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loquacius posted:Facebook just showed me a Tom Perez DNC ad in the top right corner, and as I was thinking about screenshotting it for the thread a Bernie Sanders video started autoplaying, and right then the Perez ad changed to a different ad Click on it so they have to pay for showing it to you.
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Grey Fox posted:Hot take: Don't purge the Clintons from the Democrats yet. So yeah, this.
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Thoguh posted:Maybe a little. can we all just agree that maybe peter thiel and the koch brothers deserve to get kicked in the nuts?
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Racism is real, and strong, and it is not our friend. I feel its worth mentioning that among my friends and people i talk to online regularly, the two who came to the conclusion Trump's victory had to do entirely with racism both said they could not support Ellison because the election meant democrats would lose forever if we were led by a black Muslim man. And I've seen that view espoused by some other lovely democrats elsewhere. The worst case scenario is letting the fear of racist voters influence the party away from good candidates.
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Qwazes posted:can we all just agree that maybe peter thiel and the koch brothers deserve to get kicked in the nuts? tower time posted:Racism is real, and strong, and it is not our friend. It also doesn't help that saying having more black actors in TV will help a black person in poverty who cannot get lasting gainful employment because of lovely trumped up charges that are enforced only for poor minorities. Anime Schoolgirl has issued a correction as of 19:14 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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Change vs. more of the same The economy, stupid Don't forget health care.
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Qwazes posted:can we all just agree that maybe peter thiel and the koch brothers deserve to get kicked in the nuts? That's a funny way to spell guillotined.
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Race Realists posted:kinda hard for me to give a poo poo about There is also an ever present group of people who want you to starve to death or die of exposure. And they are getting richer.
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Anything without a restructuring of the economy and social safety net just rings increasingly hollow to me. I used to work more with transgender issues and activists - we got some small concessions through executive order over the last 8 years, but healthcare companies can still refuse to cover most things, employment nondiscrimination didn't get passed despite a dem majority senate/house. Yeah democrats and corporate allies make some noise about bathroom bills, but about half the people I knew 6-8 years ago are some mixture of homeless/died to drug addiction/or doing street level survival sex work. The same people that got away with killing trans people a decade ago still generally get away with it now. The guy from Arrested Development got an award for being in a t.v. show or something though? I'll have whatever I can get for $2.17
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:It also doesn't help that saying having more black actors in TV will help a black person in poverty who cannot get lasting gainful employment because of lovely trumped up charges that are enforced only for poor minorities. I agree, hopefully they'll cancel blackish and lay off this stupid ivory tower liberal "diversity" bent they've been on
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tower time posted:Anything without a restructuring of the economy and social safety net just rings increasingly hollow to me. I used to work more with transgender issues and activists - we got some small concessions through executive order over the last 8 years, but healthcare companies can still refuse to cover most things, employment nondiscrimination didn't get passed despite a dem majority senate/house. Yeah democrats and corporate allies make some noise about bathroom bills, but about half the people I knew 6-8 years ago are some mixture of homeless/died to drug addiction/or doing street level survival sex work. The DNC would turn their backs on the trans community the nanosecond it seemed beneficial, neoliberals do not actually give a poo poo about trans people, gay people, or minorities.
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Race Realists posted:I agree, You read this into the post you quoted, he actually said "pop culture doesn't put food on anyone's table or keep people from being imprisoned on bullshit charges or murdered by racist cops," not "all white people on tv plz"
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Ace of Baes posted:The DNC would turn their backs on the trans community the nanosecond it seemed beneficial, neoliberals do not actually give a poo poo about trans people, gay people, or minorities. lol if you don't realize the democratic party is heavily financed and staffed by lgbt
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Concerned Citizen posted:lol if you don't realize the democratic party is heavily financed and staffed by lgbt Ah yes, it's impossible for LGBT people to not give a poo poo about LGBT people rights, now if you'll excuse me I have tickets to go see Milo Yiannopoulos speak at the log cabin Republicans meeting.
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loquacius posted:You read this into the post you quoted, he actually said "pop culture doesn't put food on anyone's table or keep people from being imprisoned on bullshit charges or murdered by racist cops," not "all white people on tv plz" 
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Ace of Baes posted:Ah yes, it's impossible for LGBT people to not give a poo poo about LGBT people rights, now if you'll excuse me I have tickets to go see Milo Yiannopoulos speak at the log cabin Republicans meeting. i... dont think theres really a 1:1 comparison to be made between Milo and a gay DNC staffer, dude
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Ace of Baes posted:Ah yes, it's impossible for LGBT people to not give a poo poo about LGBT people rights, now if you'll excuse me I have tickets to go see Milo Yiannopoulos speak at the log cabin Republicans meeting. Being rich trumps all other considerations
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the democratic party may be staffed and funded by LGBT but there's even more money going into it from people who aren't, and those are the kind of people that will (and have) dropped the democratic party at the drop of a hat
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paranoid randroid posted:i... dont think theres really a 1:1 comparison to be made between Milo and a gay DNC staffer, dude My point was that being gay does not directly equate with having the best intentions for gay people, also see: All black Republicans.
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idk i'm just pretty sure that of all the criticisms you can throw at the democratic party, "not caring about gay people" is probably not a great one in tyol 2017.
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Their track record is them waiting until it was popular to support gay marriage, if Trumps presidency results in a shift in culture where where 51% of people disapprove of gay marriage I have no reason not to expect those same dems to betray or if ignore that portion of the population. I don't see it happening, but substitute gay with trans and it becomes a lot more likely imo.
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Ace of Baes posted:Their track record is them waiting until it was popular to support gay marriage, if Trumps presidency results in a shift in culture where where 51% of people disapprove of gay marriage I have no reason not to expect those same dems to betray or if ignore that portion of the population. I don't see it happening, but substitute gay with trans and it becomes a lot more likely imo. i think you're basically ignoring how incredibly entrenched lgbt interests have become in the democratic party. like, the montana at-large house district was the 8th most expensive race in the nation even though it wasn't remotely competitive and the state itself is extremely cheap. why? because the democrat was a lesbian and raised an absurd amount of money from lgbt donors across the country. there's definitely no profit in retreating on those issues
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Concerned Citizen posted:i think you're basically ignoring how incredibly entrenched lgbt interests have become in the democratic party. Is this bad?
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Bip Roberts posted:Is this bad? nope, of course not
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Bip Roberts posted:Is this bad? the answer to this question depends on what kind of manic episode this thread is engaging in today
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*looks up from carving "Gloria La Riva Would Have Won" into arm with a knife* homosexuality is a bourgeois affectation
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Concerned Citizen posted:i think you're basically ignoring how incredibly entrenched lgbt interests have become in the democratic party. like, the montana at-large house district was the 8th most expensive race in the nation even though it wasn't remotely competitive and the state itself is extremely cheap. why? because the democrat was a lesbian and raised an absurd amount of money from lgbt donors across the country. there's definitely no profit in retreating on those issues I sincerely hope you're right.
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Never in my life could I have imagined "democrats have no spine" to be a controversial statement.
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paranoid randroid posted:ah yes, the "ah yes" meme Oh poo poo a deep dive  Meme mastery at work
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Democrats will fight for LGBT people until there's too many homeless LGBT people in their city. Then they pass laws to throw them out.
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Zhulik posted:Never in my life could I have imagined "democrats have no spine" to be a controversial statement. It applied before, during, and after 2008, it will remain true until Bernie takes over and chews off the head of the great serpent. Bernie would have won.
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I wouldn't say at all that gay issues aren't part of the democratic party, but it is definitely another area where donor money has done a lot to set priorities. Same-sex marriage took national priority over a nationwide Employment Non-Discrimination Act largely because wealthy LGBT communities are located in blue states that already have statewide ENDA, and same-sex marriage gave them more benefit as a result. Its hard to put a price on dignity and rights, but its also pretty hosed up that i could move to Louisiana and marry a woman, but be legally fired/not hired by anyone because I am married to a woman. And in state likes New York, they have had ENDA for LGB people for decades, but the democratic party has defeated every attempt to add transgender people.
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UHD posted:I do like me some memes Would you go so far as to consider yourself a meme loving gently caress?
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