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Mars4523 posted:Yikes. That looks pretty drat bad. I don't know...it could explain Maeve's psycho-slut act in Summer Knight.
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Aerdan posted:I don't know...it could explain Maeve's psycho-slut act in Summer Knight. And why it was a big enough problem where Mab had to take action.
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It's incredibly sexist and unnecessary. As if we need explicit rules about female sexuality and roles in addition to all the implicit ones. Oh no, a woman might have sex! Better nip that in the bud and teach her a lesson about why she's so wrong. Edit: Jesus Christ, I just remembered that Harry banned Molly from sex too. Butcher is obsessed with chaste women. Velius fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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Velius posted:It's incredibly sexist and unnecessary. Here we go again  .
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Exmond posted:Here we go again I realize the misogyny is a common theme in the thread, but this is pretty beyond the pale even by comparison to the run of the mill baseline of the series.
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Velius posted:It's incredibly sexist and unnecessary. You can thank the sexist religions that the Fae draw their power from as far as the Winter/Summer queens go within the cosmology of the Dresden Files.
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It's a fictional book, he can make up anything he wants, he chose to make this up.
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Yeah, Jim Butcher has a perhaps unhealthy fixation on Molly's virginity. This kind of thing sounds like it was written more to be super edgy than to fit in the world as it has been built. Did the previous books say anything about Lily needing to be a literal maiden (in the archaic sense)?
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Mars4523 posted:Yeah, Jim Butcher has a perhaps unhealthy fixation on Molly's virginity. Wasn't heavily implied that Slate raped her? Dunno, the entire affair seems not a good idea on Butcher's side.
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once upon a time we all thought the weird rapey vibe of maeve and slate was just a one off thing but he kept reminding us of the weird rapey era of the chicago faerie underground changling sex party scene and now the weird sex stuff just keeps comiing and getting weirder
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I believed, truly and really at one point, that slates whole thing as a rapist or whatever was just to set him up as a #1 scumbag who was bad and evil and we the readers should not like im not so sure thats what was happening anymore
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Right, I understand it's more of a steampunk series than an urban fantasy one, but is anyone able to recommend or advise against The Custard Protocol by Gail Carringer?
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Gail's books are neat, but it has that steampunk issue of whitewashing a lot of the class issues away. They are a good popcorn novel, same for the young adult novels in the same universe. As far as I remeber, the hero is never helpless, so that was a bonus.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Right, I understand it's more of a steampunk series than an urban fantasy one, but is anyone able to recommend or advise against The Custard Protocol by Gail Carringer? The Parasol Protectorate are the main series. Custard Protocol follow the kids of that, and Etiquette and Espionage are YA in same universe I think? I enjoyed them, but they are FLUFF.
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SystemLogoff posted:Gail's books are neat, but it has that steampunk issue of whitewashing a lot of the class issues away. Sure, I don't mind that sort of thing too much.
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SystemLogoff posted:Gail's books are neat, but it has that steampunk issue of whitewashing a lot of the class issues away. I don't think this is really the thread for it (beyond the tangential "Butcher did a steampunk novel" sort of way), but is there good steampunk that doesn't do that?
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Does anyone know much about French pulp fiction? While reading Angels of Music hinted at it (again, definitely recommend that book to anyone who enjoys that whole League of Extraordinary Gentlemen thing) but I hadn't realised there was so much of it; apparently enough to populate this 14 volume series of short story collections called "Tales of the Shadowmen" which I have just discovered.
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I'm looking forward to a bunch of February releases - and hope you are, too: Feb 07 - Patricia Briggs - Silence Fallen (A Mercy Thompson Novel) Feb 07 - Stephen Blackmoore - Hungry Ghosts (Eric Carter) Feb 07 - Neil Gaiman - Norse Mythology Feb 27 - Richard Kadrey -The Wrong Dead Guy (Another Coop Heist)
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New Anno Dracula book is out the week after next as well.
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Wheat Loaf posted:New Anno Dracula book is out the week after next as well. You know, I keep hearing good things about Anno Dracula in this thread, so I think I'll give the books a go. Are they written in a faux Victorian style - or just take place in that era?
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Wizchine posted:You know, I keep hearing good things about Anno Dracula in this thread, so I think I'll give the books a go. Are they written in a faux Victorian style - or just take place in that era? Nah, it's just the setting. Each story is set in a particular year, and more or less reflects the fiction of the year it's set. The first one is set in 1888 and it's a Sherlock Holmes detective story, the second one is 1918 and it's a war story about heroic fighter pilots, the third is 1960 and it's a murder-mystery taking its cues from Fellini movies (it's set in Rome) and Jame Bond (one of the henchmen is the Boris Karloff version of Frankenstein's monster with metal teeth and deadly throwing hat) then the most recent one is a short story collection taking place between 1974 ("Coppola's Dracula") and 1991 ("A Concert for Transylvania"). In between, there are stories like Anno Dracula 1923 (Agatha Christie locked room mystery) and Anno Dracula 1968 (every single ITV police serial and adventure drama). The forthcoming book - Anno Dracula 1899 - is another short story collection. There's another later this year called Anno Dracula 1999: Daikaiju, which is set in Tokyo in 1999 and will purportedly be influenced by cyberpunk and giant monster movies. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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mistaya posted:That said I feel like the Faust books do a really good job with having POC, a gay couple, and women in the Main Cast that aren't tropes. I have only read three so far but it's the first UF series I've read in a while that feels like it really embodies the city and the people who live there and couldn't be set in Anywhere, USA. Is Daniel Faust a POC? I kinda visualized him as Ray Liotta from Goodfellas.
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Benny the Snake posted:Is Daniel Faust a POC? I kinda visualized him as Ray Liotta from Goodfellas. To my knowledge, he either explicitly isn't, or it isn't mentioned (and therefore we can imply he's white, because otherwise it would have been mentioned - not to pass judgement, but that's the way books work in 2016). Melusine fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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Faust is a white guy, but I don't think it's explicitly mentioned until Killing Floor Blues. Basically non-spoilers but he ends up in prison for a bit and the men in there stay with their own race for protection so it comes up.
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Guys, I think I figured out this clever puzzle. It's Mama Margoo, guys. Mama Margoo is a person of color.
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Thanks all, for the Faust series recommendation. I really enjoyed them and the linked Harmony Black books. Pretty punchy and not too long
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Aerdan posted:I don't think this is really the thread for it (beyond the tangential "Butcher did a steampunk novel" sort of way), but is there good steampunk that doesn't do that? Basically any author who namechecks "London Labour and the London Poor" which was one of the direct inspirations for the earliest steampunk by KW Jeter, James Blaylock, and Tim Powers - and also The Difference Engine by William Gibson & Bruce Sterling.
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Aerdan posted:I don't think this is really the thread for it (beyond the tangential "Butcher did a steampunk novel" sort of way), but is there good steampunk that doesn't do that? The first third/two-thirds of Iron Dragon's Daughter. The last third is very disappointing, though. [edit] ... to expand on this a little, the first third is set in an Blasphemeral fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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The Hanging Tree just dropped to my Kindle. Now I have something to read during lunch break when I need a break from Hidden Figures.
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EVGA Longoria posted:Molly's first task, she's sent to Alaska to collect tribute from a tribe. Gets attacked in a bar and Ramirez helps her. They flirt a lot. She agrees to help him look into that and he'll help her collect the tribute. They go to pick up the tribute and find out that the tribe's children have been kidnapped. They figured out it was Cthulu worshipers, and go to rescue them. They succeed, leave the children with the tribe, and Molly and Ramirez go to have sex. Molly blacks out and wakes up covered in blood. Man explains as the Winter Maiden she can't do anything that would risk her becoming the Winter Mother (no sex) and her mantle will react to protect it. gently caress. poo poo. Jesus. I'm glad I skipped that one. Wasn't Butcher going through a divorce while he would have been working on this? I don't want to be an apologist for that monstrosity, but maybe we can let him take a mulligan and quietly brush this under the rug? At any rate, I'm not frustrated by the delays on Peace Talks any more. anilEhilated posted:Miéville? Bas-Lag is great and I'll defend it to the death. I should probably read the rest of his work, though. Strictly speaking, it's New Weird and not Steampunk. But take this as a thumbs-up. There's LOTS more going on than just gears and hats.
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VanSandman posted:Butcher got a divorce? Several years ago. He doesn't really talk about it.
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I seem to recall he replaced her already with some busty cosplaying fangirl of some sort. The sequence of these events is both unclear and not very interesting to me.
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VanSandman posted:Butcher got a divorce? Who gives a poo poo?
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Number Ten Cocks posted:I seem to recall he replaced her already with some busty cosplaying fangirl of some sort. The sequence of these events is both unclear and not very interesting to me. Cool story bro
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He posted the engagement video on his website ages ago. Rode up on a literal white horse at a renaissance faire in full armor
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Is it true that his first wife wrote the sex scenes for him?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is it true that his first wife wrote the sex scenes for him? Gosh, I hope not; since she was an actual romance author, if they were still that bad, I'd be worried about the quality of her own books.
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