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ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
Lol facebook comments saying the guy should have just been immediately shot when he was driving erratically at flinders st, imagine the carnage that would ensue every day.

hiddenmovement posted:

I suspect auto bollards are getting installed at bourke st mall sometime very soon

Seems difficult when trams have to pass through. I guess they can be raised and lowered but the mall still has to be accessible to large vehicles in a way other public spaces don't.

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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Lol facebook comments saying the guy should have just been immediately shot when he was driving erratically at flinders st, imagine the carnage that would ensue every day.


Seems difficult when trams have to pass through. I guess they can be raised and lowered but the mall still has to be accessible to large vehicles in a way other public spaces don't.

Could use those bus bollards they've got in the UK. The clips of people trying to go through those are hilarious.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Lol facebook comments saying the guy should have just been immediately shot when he was driving erratically at flinders st, imagine the carnage that would ensue every day.


Seems difficult when trams have to pass through. I guess they can be raised and lowered but the mall still has to be accessible to large vehicles in a way other public spaces don't.

YouTube cars vs autobollards. They can be made to go down for public transport and up for cars deceptively quickly.

Hence the auto part.

Mordialloc
Apr 15, 2003

Knight of the Iron Cross

Kafka Syrup posted:

Side note to all this terribleness: I just moved to Canberra and know gently caress all about this city. So give me your hottest ACT takes.

Everywhere is less than a half hour drive away.

Casurina Sands is a good place to swim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe5xuWmtlVA

What sort of stuff are you looking for?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Kafka Syrup posted:

Side note to all this terribleness: I just moved to Canberra and know gently caress all about this city. So give me your hottest ACT takes.

http://brodburger.com.au/

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

NPR Journalizard posted:

YouTube cars vs autobollards. They can be made to go down for public transport and up for cars deceptively quickly.

Hence the auto part.

This got me onto "ship launches gone wrong", most are fine, slow capsizes, crew not in a huge amount of danger, then one slipping off the drydock sending half metre long wood splinters flying directly at the camera person welp

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Why hasn't the Greek community condemned these attacks?

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
I trust Cory Bernadi and Eric Abetz are calling for all Christian Political and Community leaders to this condemn this act.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Why hasn't the Greek community condemned these attacks?

Why haven't the mentally ill community condemned these attacks?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Konomex posted:

Why haven't the mentally ill community condemned these attacks?

Hanson came out against it earlier, didn't you see?

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer

Kafka Syrup posted:

Side note to all this terribleness: I just moved to Canberra and know gently caress all about this city. So give me your hottest ACT takes.

Southside best side, despite the lack of a) internet, b) trams, and c) anything else.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Hanson came out against it earlier, didn't you see?

Perfect.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Resident Idiot posted:

Southside best side, despite the lack of a) internet, b) trams, and c) anything else.
User name post combo...

http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/heytosser/?gclid=CJas3vPw0dECFcOTvQodcp8BKw

quote:

REPORT LITTERING FROM VEHICLES

If you see someone littering from their vehicle, you can report them to the EPA. Fines from $250 can be issued from your report.

To report littering from a vehicle you need to:

be 18 years of age or over
have actually seen the litter being thrown, or blown, from the vehicle
be able to provide the vehicle registration details and the location where the littering took place
report the incident within 14 days
make your report online

I'm probably about as rabid an anti litter person as you could hope to find. This new measure in NSW sends chills up my spine. The scope for abuse? Enormous. The way it flies in the face of what was considered the Australia ethos? Echos of the Stasi? Every small minded busy body's wet dream. What to attach it to next?

btw we already have dob in a drug dealer, tax avoider and welfare cheat lines with even lower evidentiary standards. I can only speak to the tax avoider line but I was amazed at how many times it rang every day. "Johnno's just bought a boat!"

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Cartoon posted:

What to attach it to next?
An App!

https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/report-litter/id483072539?mt=8

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

I like how the app appears to encourage taking photos of people while driving their car.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again


The Arsetralian names the QUT students and their lawyers as Australians of the year.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
worthless racist garbage

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Literally beyond parody

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
haha what

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
i can think of no greater hero in the country today than some fuckos that got sued for racism but got off

truly never in our history have so many given so little for so few

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
The Australian has a long and storied have history of making up its own awards because no one else tolerates their garbage

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

The paper that hires Bill Leak: "We really think whities who get away with racism are heroes"

MysticalMachineGun fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jan 21, 2017

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts
That's funny. The whole thing was farce so they might as well run with it.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
When they got into this fight together, neither Calum Thwaites nor his barrister, Tony Morris, had any inkling of how long it would last.

The erudite Brisbane QC tipped that it would be all over in Round 1. Maybe half a day in court, no problem.

The sticking point was section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, a controversial provision that targets actions considered “reasonably likely... to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” other people.

To many minds, it was political correctness gone mad.

The issue gripped the political aficionados, but was hardly a priority for most Australians. The marathon legal battle to clear Mr Thwaites, 25, and fellow Queensland University of Technology students Alex Wood and Jackson Powell changed all that, exposing how a sloppily drafted law against race hate could be exploited to curtail free speech and crush ordinary citizens.

For this reason, The Weekend Australian has selected the 18C Three and their lawyers as our Australians of the Year.

which administers the RDA, failed them.

“A clear injustice was perpetrated against these students who merely expressed a view against what they saw as racial segregation at QUT,” he said.

“They took a stand in the best Australian tradition. They fought back to protect their own reputations, their freedom and the liberty we should all enjoy.

“Without the generous assistance and skill of their lawyers, these students most probably would have had to capitulate and have been subject to an injustice.”

The 18C case captured the flavour of a year in which political orthodoxies were overturned here and internationally.

Australians voted Pauline Hanson back into parliament with three senators from her One Nation party at a federal election that shredded the Coalition’s majority, leaving Malcolm Turnbull barely clinging to power; British voters backed a referendum to leave the EU; and Americans stunned the world by electing as president Donald Trump, whose inauguration was under way early today in Washington.



The 18C case was kicked off by Aboriginal woman Cindy Prior, an administrative officer at QUT, over social media posts about non-indigenous students being marched in 2013 from a computer lab reserved for indigenous use. Seven students were originally sued by Ms Prior for damages of $250,000 for racial vilification, under the RDA.

Three subsequently settled out of court with her lawyers for $5000 a piece, while a fourth couldn’t be located. That left Mr Thwaites, Mr Wood and Mr Powell to stand on principle.

They wouldn’t pay, because they said they had done nothing wrong. The case ground through a purported conciliation process at the commission — none of the students was contacted by the agency for 14 months — and then went before judge Michael Jarrett of the Federal Circuit Court.

“I had to do it,” Mr Thwaites said yesterday of the trial. “I didn’t have the five grand to make it go away, and my family didn’t have five grand. We’re not that well off.”

Mr Wood, 22, added: “I wasn’t prepared to pay when I did not do anything wrong.”

Mr Morris had approached the young men a year ago offering his services for free. Mr Thwaites and Mr Powell went with him, while Mr Wood was represented by another Brisbane lawyer, Michael Henry.
Mr Morris initially thought the case would be open and shut.

“It was nonsense,” he said yesterday, welcoming the recognition as this newspaper’s joint Australian of the Year.

This was in contrast to the brickbats he received in the national media when his 2005 commission of inquiry into alleged patient abuse by the then director of surgery at the Bundaberg Base Hospital, Jayant Patel, fell apart after he was found by a court to have shown “apprehended bias” towards two top Queensland Health officers.

But it wasn’t until last November that a judgment came down for the 18C Three, with Judge Jarrett comprehensively dismissing the proceedings against them.

The court had heard that this section of the RDA constituted an “extreme encroachment on traditional civil liberties, including freedom of speech”.

The judge decided, however, that he would not address constitutionality questions about the legitimacy of 18C, and confined himself to determining whether the students had a case to answer: emphatically, they did not.

Malcolm Turnbull has now set up a parliamentary inquiry into the RDA to determine whether the law imposes unreasonable limits on free speech and if it should be changed.

Mr Morris said the case was the most important one he had handled in 35 years at the bar. “It has made people think about what it is to be Australian, what it is to have freedom of speech,” he said.


“In a sense, this case has it all, when you have three young guys at university being pursued, with their futures at stake. This isn’t about the big end of town and politicians and high-flyers.”

Gesturing to Mr Thwaites, he said: “Calum could be anyone’s brother or son or nephew … and it has made people think. If this can happen to him or Alex or Jackson, it can happen to anyone.”

For Mr Thwaites, it meant that he lost the career he had planned as a teacher specialising in indigenous education and gained a new one — the law. Recognising the young man as a “bright bloke”, Mr Morris has employed him as his managing clerk while he works towards a law degree.

Mr Wood had a 6.30am start yesterday in his job as a civil engineer. He plans to down a few “Milton mangoes” — fresh from the Fourex brewery in inner Brisbane — for Australia Day.

Mr Powell is pursuing options in South Korea in software development and graphic design. “I am just looking to leave this behind me with as little negative impact to my life as possible,” he said.

Our 2016 Australians of the Year were selected by an editorial board from nominations made by readers. It was a tough choice, given the calibre of the field.
Nominees ranged from Toowoomba businessman John Wagner and his brothers, who pumped $200 million of their own money into the first large-scale general-purpose airport to be built in Australia for nearly half a century, to celebrated moviemaker George Miller, indigenous advocate Nyunggai Warren Mundine and the High Court’s new Chief Justice, Susan Kiefel.

Our readers also applauded big-hearted NSW truckie Brendan “Bumper” Farrell for delivering stockfeed to drought-hit farmers in the state’s north and Queensland’s west.

Mr Morris said there were “chilling” parallels between the 18C case and the battle by his colleague at the Brisbane bar, Stephen Keim SC, and solicitor Peter Russo to clear Indian-born doctor Mohamed Haneef after he was wrongly detained and charged with aiding terrorists. The lawyers were named as this newspaper’s 2007 Australians of the Year.

“What to me makes this acknowledgement so gratifying is that, when you come down to it, the only institutions in our society that stand between the individual and the government are a free and independent press and a free and independent bar,” Mr Morris said.

“There is no one else.

“There is no one else to turn to when government agencies get out of control.”

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
:itwaspoo:

blacksun
Mar 16, 2006
I told Cwapface not to register me with a title that said I am a faggot but he did it anyway because he likes to tell the truth.
This case is the best example of the misuse and overstep possible within 18c, a law which I agree with in principle. People here can't honestly agree with its usage in this case?

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Comparing themselves to Haneef, jesus wept what delusional little boys. No wonder the Oz applauds them.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
A bunch of law students get smartarse over a computer lab clearly designed as a safe study space for a very discriminated group.

During the case they all get high paying jobs due to notoriety AND free lawyers.

Meanwhile the group loses their computer lab and QUT social media makes a bucket of memes about Aboriginals.

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

blacksun posted:

This case is the best example of the misuse and overstep possible within 18c, a law which I agree with in principle. People here can't honestly agree with its usage in this case?

Vexatious lawsuits don't negate laws.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I was wondering... how the gently caress did the driver get between Flinders/Swanston to Collins/Swanston? That entire area is filled up with horses and trams and police cars at all times.

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
The kind of person who mows down pedestrians is probably not too fussed on obeying the road rules or tram lanes.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Synthbuttrange posted:

I was wondering... how the gently caress did the driver get between Flinders/Swanston to Collins/Swanston? That entire area is filled up with horses and trams and police cars at all times.

You'd be surprised how many people turn into Swanston street even when not on a drug fuelled rampage

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Did he do a hook turn?

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

blacksun posted:

This case is the best example of the misuse and overstep possible within 18c, a law which I agree with in principle. People here can't honestly agree with its usage in this case?

left renewal member spotted

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Anidav posted:

A bunch of law students get smartarse over a computer lab clearly designed as a safe study space for a very discriminated group.

During the case they all get high paying jobs due to notoriety AND free lawyers.

Meanwhile the group loses their computer lab and QUT social media makes a bucket of memes about Aboriginals.
You're missing the bit about an attempt to cash in with a complicit HRC that turned it into a complete circus.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Graic Gabtar posted:

You're missing the bit about an attempt to cash in with a complicit HRC that turned it into a complete circus.

you're missing the bit where incidents such as these reflect broad systematic discrimination against non-white people. People aren't just mad about being "offended", it's actually more than that

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
~~+~~"complicit human rights commission"~~+~~
-Ratbag Ciarg, noted piss drinker, 2017

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Recoome posted:

you're missing the bit where incidents such as these reflect broad systematic discrimination against non-white people. People aren't just mad about being "offended", it's actually more than that
So you're basically saying the whole case was a beat up?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Graic Gabtar posted:

So you're basically saying the whole case was a beat up?

turn your monitor on

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Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
I don't understand why the Human Rights Commission didn't act outside of their statutory authority?

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