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Imperialist Dog posted:A twitter anarchist chained himself to the US Consulate gates here in Hong Kong to protest Trump. this man has truly changed teh world now
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JaucheCharly posted:Nice Klingon. How do they reconstruct the sounds of a language that isn't written in letters? Even languages that are written in letters require a lot of guesswork on ancient pronunciation. A lot of it is based on what sounds most languages put next to each other, which is in turn based on the physical setup of your mouth and what is biologically easy to do. Often this sorts out the consonant sounds fairly well but you are left with more possible options for vowels (what makes a vowel sound a vowel sound is that it's a mouth posture that is easy to go to and from from most consonants, so they're the most flexible sounds which also makes them more interchangeable). There was a reference to this in one of those movies where people go back in time and there's an Egyptian they talk to -- we are not sure how ancient Egyptian was pronounced and the main discrepancy is which vowel sounds go where exactly. Obviously there are more problems with this the less phonetic representation there is in the alphabet. I don't know exactly how they've established pronunciation for something like Chinese but I would guess that a) there are more texts talking about that from that time at least incidentally, including poetry where some of the sounds are easier to guess and b) there is more acceptance and less questioning of certain traditional interpretations of how things were said from scholars / government sources. But eventually it comes down to a sudoku puzzle of sounds where you make guesses and tumble the possibilities and there are some arguments that make more sense than others. raton fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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You can also look to various related languages, isolated off shoots, and etymology in general to help fill in some of the gaps. It's still largely guesswork, but there is methodology to it and plenty of tools to use.
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Zzulu posted:this man has truly changed teh world now please be considerate to the man who lost most of his chin fighting against trump fascism 
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Kan re nao.
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Atlas Hugged posted:You can also look to various related languages, isolated off shoots, and etymology in general to help fill in some of the gaps. It's still largely guesswork, but there is methodology to it and plenty of tools to use. gently caress you, Sitchin.
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I'd be totally down learning Cantonese.
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Zzulu posted:this man has truly changed teh world now This just in, Trump steps down due to a person more orange than him protesting.
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Xerxes17 posted:Kan re nao.
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Zzulu posted:this man has truly changed teh world now They should have pulled his head off lol.
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We have a pretty good idea how Latin was pronounced because this guy wrote this speech denouncing how people were pronouncing it wrong. It's pretty interesting in that, for example, he bitches about the people of Ibera not saying "h" and that regional Latin eventually evolved into Spanish, in which the "h" is silent.
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ladron posted:We have a pretty good idea how Latin was pronounced because this guy wrote this speech denouncing how people were pronouncing it wrong. It's pretty interesting in that, for example, he bitches about the people of Ibera not saying "h" and that regional Latin eventually evolved into Spanish, in which the "h" is silent. I like the part where Caesar is like "We tortured the Iberian and we did it so good he screamed out in his native tongue lol" Also back in those days the Spanish looked and sounded like red headed Irish people.
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Interesting. When did latinas get sexy?
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Interesting. When did latinas get sexy? You're thinking of Western Hemisphere people. It's when they hosed all the indians to death. Well actually they got hosed to death a bit by the muslims. Then they went and hosed the indians to death.
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Bum the Sad posted:Well actually they got hosed to death a bit by the muslims. the moops
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:the moops You're a moop.
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Language evolution over time would really gently caress up a time travel story. Since time travel "dream" stories seem to make up a majority of Chinese television I can easily dismiss them. For comparison, here's some basic Old English when it was still highly Germanic. You can see the connections with modern day English but it's so different as to be a foreign language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcfqgR4dHgg
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Sheep-Goats posted:Also back in those days the Spanish looked and sounded like red headed Irish people. the 2nd worse kind of people!
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Local: "Take the Metro to X station, and then take the bus to Y stop." Me: *Looking at the map* "Y bus stop is only 1km from the Metro. I can just walk that." Local: "But that's very far! You will be very tired." Me: "It's like 10 minutes of walking. Come on." Local: "Now it is winter! You will catch a cold." Weather: *70f/21c and sunny* Me: "No..." Local: "Ok, ok. Do whatever you want!" *Later* Local: "Are you tired? Please, have a rest. Sit for a while." Me: "No way, I am fine. Gat dam!" Local: "You are young, maybe that's why you like sports." Me: "You're younger than me!" Local: "Yes, but we Chinese will keep warm during winter." Me: "Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-uuuhhhhhh"
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Haier posted:Local: "Take the Metro to X station, and then take the bus to Y stop." I was real serious about pitching in to get you a go pro
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Interesting. When did latinas get sexy? When the Moors took over and raped everyone for hundreds of years I believe
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Sheep-Goats posted:When the Moors took over and raped everyone for hundreds of years I believe The Ummayyad Unibrow disagrees
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Sheep-Goats posted:When the Moors took over and raped everyone for hundreds of years I believe if you mean in south america and like in about the 1500s then yeah
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Interesting. When did latinas get sexy? 
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I really don't know much about Taiwan history so I was reading up on some 101 level stuff and holy poo poo the "white terror" lasted a long time. Much like south korea it seems like it was a horrible right wing dictatorship until pretty recently. They killed or imprisoned all their social and political elite too, just like Mao. Every china is worst china.
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Baronjutter posted:I really don't know much about Taiwan history so I was reading up on some 101 level stuff and holy poo poo the "white terror" lasted a long time. Much like south korea it seems like it was a horrible right wing dictatorship until pretty recently. They killed or imprisoned all their social and political elite too, just like Mao. Every china is worst china. Taiwan still #1
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"I better not teach my kid to not be a little rear end in a top hat that bothers and touches other people or their things, since my kid might lose too much face if I did that." Such a bad bad bad idea to go anywhere outside today.
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Two fat Hong Kong kids pushing through the travelator at the central train station, while the Filipina helper who is of course carrying their backpacks says sorry for them.
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Imperialist Dog posted:Two fat Hong Kong kids pushing through the travelator at the central train station, while the Filipina helper who is of course carrying their backpacks says sorry for them. ---- Someone I don't know just sent me a friend request on Wechat with this message: "晚上好，喝热水，保重身体" (Good evening, drink hot water, take care of the body) Which one of you guys is trolling me?
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Hot water is good for the healthy.
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Baronjutter posted:I really don't know much about Taiwan history so I was reading up on some 101 level stuff and holy poo poo the "white terror" lasted a long time. Much like south korea it seems like it was a horrible right wing dictatorship until pretty recently. They killed or imprisoned all their social and political elite too, just like Mao. Every china is worst china. Hella lovely but in terms of scale still a fraction as awful as the mainland even after adjusting for population. I liked the part where they kept seats for all the other provinces in the assembly so even if every single voter in Taiwan opposed the KMT it would get cancelled out by some old guys "representing" Sichuan and Gansu.
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Another difference is that it's admitted, it's remembered, there are memorials to the massacres and media about it. CKS is still on the money and he still has a big monument, but every Taiwanese person who's said anything about it has said he's a... complicated historical figure*, or they've just been like "he was a dickhead, gently caress him." That said, it doesn't come up often, I'm not talking history over beers very much these days. One time was just that it was his birthday, which is still a minor holiday, and one guy said "oh yeah it's CKS's birthday. He was a dictator and I hate him." Then we went back to watching baseball. *submit your 70%/30% jokes below this line
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Since this is the ancestral home of Korea thread, here is something from Korea: https://giphy.com/gifs/l3q2tiwHf2j4toXQI What did they think would happen?
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Haier posted:Since this is the ancestral home of Korea thread, here is something from Korea: for real not the dumbest thing I've seen there.. ladron fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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Haier posted:Since this is the ancestral home of Korea thread, here is something from Korea: I fully approve of this. The pipe had it coming.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Good lord, I have no idea what they were thinking with that. You know what the answer is.
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ladron posted:for real not the dumbest thing I've seen there.. Sounds cool
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ladron posted:for real not the dumbest thing I've seen there.. maybe you can have a try in SHENYANG, LIAONING? or maybe you can have a rest first, that my thinking
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