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Your Taint posted:This is honestly the best comedy to come along in at least a decade. The jokes can be both subtle and in your face. It's witty, intelligent, and every single person on it is awesome. Why wouldn't the bad place be wasteful? It's incorporeal, that means that there's no corporeal resources to exhaust. Revisiting some of the older episodes with this twist confirmed, it's cool to see how certain things have new meaning and significance. For example, Chidi complaining about how teaching Eleanor is consuming "his afterlife" when we know now that this isn't even meant to be his reward has more depth, and really drives home his need to embrace this challenge. I'm also increasingly convinced that Michael, by trying to create a mock good place, opened up a sort of reverse pandora's box. I think that it's very much possible for those in charge of the bad place to let this thing that they've created get out of hand, and operate contrary to their desires.
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There are so many little hints. Eleanor's comment about how Chidi shouldn't need glasses is a perfect one. Also, when Janet said that it would be literally (physically?) impossible for her to visit Jason when he went to the Bad Place, this raised a red flag for me: Bad Janet visits all the time. I'm wondering if Janet meant it would be impossible because Jason cannot go to the bad place, he's already there. She is literal that way.
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Patrovsky posted:"Can anyone access our search history, or is this an incognito browsing situation, like when you're stalking a hot mailman from your work computer." I feel like that's going to be part of what makes her jump-start the same realization in season 2(please please let this get renewed). She knows she doesn't belong so why would she get the perfect soulmate? That, plus the note, hopefully kickstarts some suspicion that The Good Place is not what it seems. So far this show has been masterful at not falling into the typical serial show trap of dragging stuff out so why would that be any different for season 2? I have no idea where they can go with it but I have full confidence it'll be as satisfying as the ending to this season was.
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I think the weirdest change is all the froyo shops have been replaced by pizza shops. I can't wait to see what other weird small things Michael has changed.
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Jan 21, 2017 10:52
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Jan 21, 2017 10:58
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frgildan posted:I think the weirdest change is all the froyo shops have been replaced by pizza shops. I can't wait to see what other weird small things Michael has changed. The adorable sleepy otters holding hands where replaced by a vicious ape and a dangerous predator.
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There's so many weird, interesting things to unpack from resetting things that season two is going to be a blast. Is Chidi going to have a fake Fake Eleanor to drive him crazy but who also will be undermining him? Is Jason going to just be Jason? Will Tahani have a "soulmate" who she can't deal with in other ways? What's going to happen when Janet can't get through to her husband? What's going to happen when Eleanor inevitably winds up running to the Medium Place again and Mindy says, "Why'd you come back? Send your friends to the Bad Place, after all?" I feel like the ending here opens up the metaphysics of the show again in a good way. It always bothered me that, "You get a point tally and then we decide where you get to go!" was this big thing that nobody knew about when it's an underlying assumption in pretty much every religion mankind has ever had. There's probably more to the Bad Place than just being stuck with hot pokers forever., too. Maybe the point totals don't stop with death (though we can't trust any point system that the Bad Place tells us).
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Eleanor seemed to regain the memory of her death when she went to the medium place. I wonder if she makes a second trip will she remember the first go around at the good place?
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frgildan posted:Eleanor seemed to regain the memory of her death when she went to the medium place. I wonder if she makes a second trip will she remember the first go around at the good place? Huh, I didn't notice that. I think you're right. They did claim to have erased that embarrassing death from her memory.
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Just watched the finale last night and it lived up to expectations. Hoping there's a season two. I've read in many places online that people were saying that this pulled off the twist better than Westworld. It rings a little false for me because TV audiences are conditioned to search for the twist in hour long mystery dramas but not for half hour sitcoms (even if this was presented as a serial mystery show). Sure there were some twists during the season (Jason being a bad person namely), but those were more standard sitcom hijinx style twists than paradigm shifting ones. If there had been a huge community online going over every detail with a fine-tooth comb as they did for Westworld, I'll bet the theories that this was actually the bad place – that were theorized by some in the beginning – would have stuck around. But now that we know what the game is, I think it'll be harder for Schur + co to pull off such a thing in the next season, if they decide to do one at all.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Huh, I didn't notice that. I think you're right. They did claim to have erased that embarrassing death from her memory. They probably did it so that they could introduce another Eleanor later, and pretend she had been at the site of her death (and therefore be able to justify why the "mixup" had happened). Unless second Eleanor wasn't planned, given that the real Eleanor wasn't intended to confess.
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Open Source Idiom posted:They probably did it so that they could introduce another Eleanor later, and pretend she had been at the site of her death (and therefore be able to justify why the "mixup" had happened). I suspect Real Eleanor was a reaction to fake Eleanor going off script and wasn't at all planned. Michael panicked. On the subject of her remembering her death, Bell really sells it at the end because you can see that she realized something when she woke up. I'm assuming it's that Real Eleanor was nowhere in her memory. Also, Eleanor telling Michael he's basic just before he wipes their memories was a pretty great way for her to go out.
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frgildan posted:Eleanor seemed to regain the memory of her death when she went to the medium place. I wonder if she makes a second trip will she remember the first go around at the good place? What indicated that to you? The flashback doesn't necessarily mean that they remember it, does it?
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Technically it's the moment of death her memories were wiped for, not the moments immediately preceding that one
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There are so many great moments where the dialogue opens up on a second rewatch. When Chidi mentions how Eleanor citing Kant "might be the happiest moment of my life." Eleanor says, "no offense dude, but if that's true, that's a real bummer of a life." On a first reading, this is just a tossed off amusing comment, but on another level, she's inadvertently stumbling upon a deeper truth about the life he lived.
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What a loving amazing twist. I was enjoying this as a 'low stakes' comedy, but FUUUUCK, when Michael laughed my jaw dropped. I really wish I put this in my Top 10 now :-| At least there's 2017's one.
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I haven't posted in this thread, but I just have to say that this is easily one of my favourite shows to come out last year. I was perfectly content to wallow in Kristen Bell being adorable, Ted Danson doddering about in a manner not unlike his role in Bored to Death and the hilarious dialogue but they actually managed to craft an intricate world/mythos (I guess?) and then pull the rug out from under me. If there is no second season, we are all in the bad place.
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I like it's obvious it's hell when even their lovely devil office neutron coffee got a weird taste to gently caress it.
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cant cook creole bream posted:The adorable sleepy otters holding hands where replaced by a vicious ape and a dangerous predator. 
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Eleanor you really suck
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Jan 21, 2017 19:29
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Time to rewatch the entire series and see all the extended eps
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Eleanor you really suck  This 45 second stretch of the episode is so giffable, I love it. 
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Higgy posted:
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Is there really any question that this will be renewed? I could have sworn it already had been.
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precision posted:Is there really any question that this will be renewed? I could have sworn it already had been. According to TVGrimreaper, who has a really good track record, it will but it hasn't been yet. They might be saving it for upfronts.
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precision posted:Is there really any question that this will be renewed? I could have sworn it already had been. Ken Tremendous has said the network told him to start planning for a second season, but hasn't officially renewed the show yet.
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I got spoiled from Couch Chat but I still wasn't fully expecting it, and definitely wasn't expecting Michael to be in on it. That was amazing.
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AbsolutelySane posted:I suspect Real Eleanor was a reaction to fake Eleanor going off script and wasn't at all planned. Michael panicked. On the subject of her remembering her death, Bell really sells it at the end because you can see that she realized something when she woke up. I'm assuming it's that Real Eleanor was nowhere in her memory. I think they probably had Real Eleanor somewhere on the 14 million point plan, presumably to stir up shirt when things started settling. Perhaps they weren't planning on using her in the first few months, though. Another thought occurred to me. If they figure it out again, they have to pretend that they haven't otherwise it's back to the lightning that tears your flesh off and the like. Oh, and I bet there's a fake "Tahini's sister" in the new neighborhood set up just because it would make her miserable. Higgy posted:This 45 second stretch of the episode is so giffable, I love it. I suspect that was improvised mainly because it's so absurdly petty that I couldn't see them scripting it in.
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I love the pot-breaking scene, it's the perfect expression of frustrated, low effort, 'look at what you make me do' pettiness.
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This ending is so brilliant. It isn't so much just "its been hell all along!" but that Micheal's idea of hell is a situational comedy.
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As he said, he watched all ten seasons of Friends.
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Mulva posted:As he said, he watched all ten seasons of Friends. oh my god it was research
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Snooze Cruise posted:oh my god it was research Things Micheal learned from American sitcoms that he implemented in his Bad Place neighborhood: -Some people are meant to be together, but they will emotionally destroy each other by dating other people for -Lies always escalate -People don't really change, and if they do it's undone by the next episode There's definitely more but I can't think of it at the moment
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The back cover of Celebrity Baby Plastic Surgery Disasters was an ad for a Dennis Feinstein fragrance.
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PCjr sidecar posted:The back cover of Celebrity Baby Plastic Surgery Disasters was an ad for a Dennis Feinstein fragrance.  That's amazing, nice catch. I would love to see Ron Swanson in his Bad Place. I imagine it would be him as the head of a government agency and only had vegetarian options available to him.
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Sorry, not the best screencap off of Hulu.
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