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SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005

Hang them strategically off of a nude bodybuilder.

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velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich
So I've been out of the photography loop for quite some time now and I'm looking to upgrade my current setup, but I'm in a weird situation.

I've been using a Canon t1i since like 2010 or something and want to step up. I've got a crappy entry level 70-250mm lens, one of those nifty fifty things that I snagged for like $50, and the 18-55mm lens that came with the t1i body.

Here's the part that makes upgrading awkward for me - I've inherited a Nikon D5000 with a nice telephoto lens from my mom who decided she doesn't care about photography any more. The body is, as far as I can tell, pretty much just as out of date and in the same tier as the t1i, but the lens is a 70-300mm VR Nikkor which makes it the best lens I now own.

I'm looking to spend no more than $1500 CAD on a new body, but I'm not sure if I should commit to Nikon or Canon. I'm obviously more familiar with Canon, but if Nikon has better offerings in the same price bracket, I'm willing to jump in. I'll also be sellong off all of my extra equipment to fund the new purchase.

For some background, I mostly like to take wildlife photos, and have been wanting to get into landscape photography for some time. Bonus points if I can film at 60 fps.

So what should I do?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

murked by dragon posted:

So I've been out of the photography loop for quite some time now and I'm looking to upgrade my current setup, but I'm in a weird situation.

I've been using a Canon t1i since like 2010 or something and want to step up. I've got a crappy entry level 70-250mm lens, one of those nifty fifty things that I snagged for like $50, and the 18-55mm lens that came with the t1i body.

Here's the part that makes upgrading awkward for me - I've inherited a Nikon D5000 with a nice telephoto lens from my mom who decided she doesn't care about photography any more. The body is, as far as I can tell, pretty much just as out of date and in the same tier as the t1i, but the lens is a 70-300mm VR Nikkor which makes it the best lens I now own.

I'm looking to spend no more than $1500 CAD on a new body, but I'm not sure if I should commit to Nikon or Canon. I'm obviously more familiar with Canon, but if Nikon has better offerings in the same price bracket, I'm willing to jump in. I'll also be sellong off all of my extra equipment to fund the new purchase.

For some background, I mostly like to take wildlife photos, and have been wanting to get into landscape photography for some time. Bonus points if I can film at 60 fps.

So what should I do?

On a technical level either is fine, really. At the moment Nikon has slightly better noise at high ISO than most Canon cameras, but this will probably flip back and forth every couple of years. Nikon has 60fps full HD video on more cameras but that's also one Canon model refresh away from equalising. Canon has some extremely specialised lenses that Nikon stopped making like >1:1 macros and vice versa like the 135 DC for extra smooth Bokeh, and there's more cheap-but-sufficiently-good Chinese knockoff accessories for Canon.

The 70-300 is good for wildlife and to get something much better you'd need to spend like 1.5k-2k extra Canadian funbucks - it would make sense to stay with Nikon and add a mid-tier walkaround/landscape lens unless you a) loving hate how Nikon arranges their buttons (this can make or break the photographing experience) or b) need manufacturer-exclusive lenses or a shitton of cheap flashes.

Given that you want to do both landscapes and wildlfe, I would also recommend a good sturdy and light tripod, which is also not cheap.

suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Dec 29, 2016

BitesizedNike
Mar 29, 2008

.flac
If you're into wildlife, I'd also recommend going with a crop sensor (i.e. DX body). It'll turn that 70-300mm into a 105-450mm at no cost to speed. I also don't think any of NIkon's full frame bodies are really in your budget unless you buy used, anyway.

velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Thanks for the responses. Given the feedback, I'm leaning towards the Nikon D7200 at the moment. It looks like it's one of the few bodies in my Canadian funbux price range as well.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

It's a really good body if you want a crop DSLR

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Yup, never been anything but completely satisfied with mine.

SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005

Has anyone here ever used a Horseman 842? I'm looking around for a wide-angle medium format setup. The Fuji GSW690III w/65mm lens is another option I've been looking at. The Fuji rangefinders are kind of a staple among enthusiasts, but I've also seen some posters on ~other forums~ slagging off the 90mm Fuji, at least.

SMERSH Mouth fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Dec 30, 2016

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

SMERSH Mouth posted:

Has anyone here ever used a Horseman 842? I'm looking around for a wide-angle medium format setup. The Fuji GSW690III w/65mm lens is another option I've been looking at. The Fuji rangefinders are kind of a staple among enthusiasts, but I've also seen some posters on ~other forums~ slagging off the 90mm Fuji, at least.

Anyone that slags off the Fujinon lenses in the GW series (or any Fujinons really) doesn't know what they are talking about. Buy the GSW690.

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)
Should I use rechargable or alkaline batteries for my wireless triggers? Just got a Phottix Odin.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Back in the day, how did camera companies drive sales? Today its all about better sensors but back then, you could just stick a better roll of film in your old camera right?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Drive modes, shutter specs (speed and durability), metering sophistication, size, etc. Literally the same thing they use now on top of sensor specs.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Yeah not a lot has changed. Depending on the market you either sold based on specs to the pros and enthusiasts, or based on simplicity to most everyone else.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Makes sense.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
Check out this archive of old camera ads. The ones from the 70s and 80s are especially fun as many of us still own those cameras and you can see how they were hyped when they were new. You can see DJExile's point by comparing ads from 110 systems or instant cameras to Leica or Mamiya or Hasselblad ads.

BitesizedNike
Mar 29, 2008

.flac
From the Fifties on, some big marketing points for 35mm were...

Quick Film Load → Coupled Meter → Shutter Priority → SLR → Aperture Priority → Automated Film Advance → Autofocus (unsurprisingly, this was loving huge) → Compact P&S → Fast Zooms → Digital

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Helen Highwater posted:

Check out this archive of old camera ads. The ones from the 70s and 80s are especially fun as many of us still own those cameras and you can see how they were hyped when they were new. You can see DJExile's point by comparing ads from 110 systems or instant cameras to Leica or Mamiya or Hasselblad ads.

this is a really neat find

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Helen Highwater posted:

Check out this archive of old camera ads. The ones from the 70s and 80s are especially fun as many of us still own those cameras and you can see how they were hyped when they were new. You can see DJExile's point by comparing ads from 110 systems or instant cameras to Leica or Mamiya or Hasselblad ads.

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Creative Convention > The Dorkroom > Camera Gear: I'm a helluvan artist!

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

Schneider Heim posted:

Should I use rechargable or alkaline batteries for my wireless triggers? Just got a Phottix Odin.
Are you worried about malfunctions or risk of batteries going catastrophically bad? Or how uses you can get out of a set of batteries? Because I don't think modern batteries of either flavour are risky, you can pretty much drop in any set and the triggers should work fine. Alkalines reputedly provide more uses, especially over long times that include periods of no use at all (your triggers are just sitting in your camera bag), but of course they can't be recharged.

I'd just get two sets of rechargeables for your triggers and leave one set in the charger.

****

Helen Highwater posted:

Check out this archive of old camera ads. The ones from the 70s and 80s are especially fun as many of us still own those cameras and you can see how they were hyped when they were new. You can see DJExile's point by comparing ads from 110 systems or instant cameras to Leica or Mamiya or Hasselblad ads.

This is great. I have many fond memories of Canon's "Wildlife as Canon sees it" series, there was always at least one in every issue of National Geographic.
It's also the only thing that shows up on that site for the 1990s.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yeah, everything I knew about cameras up until about 2000 came from national geographic ads.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

ExecuDork posted:

This is great. I have many fond memories of Canon's "Wildlife as Canon sees it" series, there was always at least one in every issue of National Geographic.
It's also the only thing that shows up on that site for the 1990s.

There are multiple pages for each decade. Page two of the 1990s features this rather :captainpop: ad




Edit: The more I look at that ad, the more wtf I am about it. Why does an ad for a camera have a drawing of a lady rather than a photo of one? What is going on with her shoulders? Why are her breasts not attached to her ribs? Why does she have a hunchback? Why did they spell Extreme like that? Why are they selling an action camera with a fetish lingerie image instead of some kind of outdoor sports activity?

Helen Highwater fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jan 19, 2017

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Huh. I clicked through three pages after I clicked on the 1990 link, and all I saw was Canon's wildlife. I just had another look and I'm not seeing anything that isn't a Canon ad with an animal and a map.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Helen Highwater posted:

Why does an ad for a camera have a drawing of a lady rather than a photo of one? What is going on with her shoulders? Why are her breasts not attached to her ribs? Why does she have a hunchback? Why did they spell Extreme like that? Why are they selling an action camera with a fetish lingerie image instead of some kind of outdoor sports activity?

The answer to basically all of this is "The 1990s"

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Helen Highwater posted:

There are multiple pages for each decade. Page two of the 1990s features this rather :captainpop: ad




Edit: The more I look at that ad, the more wtf I am about it. Why does an ad for a camera have a drawing of a lady rather than a photo of one? What is going on with her shoulders? Why are her breasts not attached to her ribs? Why does she have a hunchback? Why did they spell Extreme like that? Why are they selling an action camera with a fetish lingerie image instead of some kind of outdoor sports activity?

Splashproof camera + dominatrix = golden shower photos.

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Deep, like the minds of Minolta

red19fire
May 26, 2010

Schneider Heim posted:

Should I use rechargable or alkaline batteries for my wireless triggers? Just got a Phottix Odin.

I used the same set of eneloops for like 3-4 years, no problems. I use one of the $40 advanced rechargers, with the slow recharge and I deep-cycle the batteries at least twice a year. It's a no-brainer, they're good for thousands of cycles.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Do B&H or Adorama have any events or coupons that I could use to make a decent sized purchase (Nikon D500 body, ~$1999) a bit cheaper?

I'm open to other sites, but those don't charge tax where I live, so that's a big advantage for me right there.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


I've got a Nikon D80 and its okay for mu current needs and skill level. I wouldn't mind upgrading to a body that has video capability.. Also 2 finger dials, I love having the thumb and index for quick shutter and aperture.

I don't need it and not looking for current gen, but intetested in getting okay video for the <$400 price range. As well as upgrading a few years in the body.

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 24, 2017

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer
Probably you'd want a D7000

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


BANME.sh posted:

Probably you'd want a D7000

Yep this is the one I was checking out earlier but couldn't find it again.

LooksLikeABabyRat
Jun 26, 2008

Oh dang, I'd nibble that cheese

tater_salad posted:

Yep this is the one I was checking out earlier but couldn't find it again.

Be sure to test the one you pick up with your lenses if you can. I had severe back focusing issues with mine. Once I fixed it it was a great camera.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


LooksLikeABabyRat posted:

Be sure to test the one you pick up with your lenses if you can. I had severe back focusing issues with mine. Once I fixed it it was a great camera.

Ordered one from amazon yesterday will be here Thurs, I have 2 Nikon lenses so hoping that the focus works.. It's got a 30 day return policy so 'll just make sure to bring my D80 along this weekend (Going out of town) as I"m not sure i"ll have a ton of time to play with it on Thursday.

LooksLikeABabyRat
Jun 26, 2008

Oh dang, I'd nibble that cheese

tater_salad posted:

Ordered one from amazon yesterday will be here Thurs, I have 2 Nikon lenses so hoping that the focus works.. It's got a 30 day return policy so 'll just make sure to bring my D80 along this weekend (Going out of town) as I"m not sure i"ll have a ton of time to play with it on Thursday.

If you only have issues with one lens, I had a lot of success configuring it with FoCal. I wound up selling it to go mirrorless (wanted something less bulky) but once it's set up it's a fantastic camera.

jackpot
Aug 31, 2004

First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<
Quality strap brands? Nothing fancy needed, although quick release is nice. I wouldn't mind something cloth/woven, but everything I see on amazon is ugly as hell.

accipter
Sep 12, 2003

jackpot posted:

Quality strap brands? Nothing fancy needed, although quick release is nice. I wouldn't mind something cloth/woven, but everything I see on amazon is ugly as hell.

These are nice and simple if you want a leather strap.

http://www.gordyscamerastraps.com/

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

jackpot posted:

Quality strap brands? Nothing fancy needed, although quick release is nice. I wouldn't mind something cloth/woven, but everything I see on amazon is ugly as hell.

https://www.dsptch.com/collections/straps/products/standard-camera-sling-strap-olive

Best straps I've ever owned.

BitesizedNike
Mar 29, 2008

.flac

I'll qualify this that these straps are indeed great — however, if you're adjusting lengths on a regular basis, having the second slide is really annoying to work with. I tore it off with a pair tin snips, and now I don't think I could find a better strap for my needs.

Note that these attach to the strap lugs, which are perfect for my needs. If you're carrying heavier and longer lenses, you may prefer the various strap solutions that attach instead to the tripod mount (e.g., BlackRapid).

BitesizedNike fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Feb 13, 2017

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Like Slowhanded said, it depends a bit on what sort of lenses you're carrying and what's comfortable to you. I've always heard great things about those DSPTCH straps but I usually have longer lenses like a 40-150 or 300mm on my camera and straps attaching to the lugs just wouldn't work for me, but I've been very happy with a Blackrapid cross-shot for a mirrorless + battery grip with larger lenses.

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
Im loving my BlackRapid Curve, or whatevs.

Theres a big pad that neatly drapes over my shoulder and is comfy and barely noticeable when the camera with my big lens is hanging off it.
The thing that attaches to the camera (in the tripod socket) is loose on the strap so when i bring the camera up to eye level the strap itself stays in place.

The biggest benefit though is that the lens points down'ish and towards the back so that it doesn't swing and bang into things if you move around, as opposed to those straps that attach to the strap-points on the camera making the lens point straight out from your belly when you hang it around your neck.

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Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
How does the BlackRapid attach to the camera? From the picture it looks like a eye that screws into the tripod mount. Is there anything that stops it from unscrewing itself if it swings around? I have a Rollei sling strap at the moment and it has a locking system so that it can't unscrew unless you press it in first. Unfortunately you have to take it off if you want to put the camera on a tripod which is a pain. I'd love a system like the Carryspeed one that attaches via a plate that is tapped and drilled for tripods so you don't have to keep taking it on and off.

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