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Welcome to the Miscellaneous Auto Racing Megathread of 2017. This is the place to discuss racing that isn’t NASCAR, F1, Indycar, and Formula E. Mainly it’s been WeatherTech Championship Series or the World Endurance Championship or British Touring Car Championship. Other stuff is welcome like all the GT3 championships in the world (Pirelli World Challenge, Blancpain, regional GT3 championships), WTCC, Formula E, what have you. Racing Series’ This is the premier that all of the manufactures want to compete in and win. This is the 5th year under the FIA this championship is running with . Schedule this year hasn't really changed this year. Classes include LMP1, LMP2, GTE-Pro, GTE-Am. In LMP1 last year, Porsche was again the team to beat but also Audi and Toyota were much stronger though both of them let races slip through their hands most notably Toyota in the last 5 minutes. Due to Dieselgate, Audi is leaving leaving a new R18 stillborn, Joest has to find a new project to do and LMP1 is now in a dangerous situation with only 2 manufactures in it's top class... oh and the forgettable Bykolles team as well. LMP2, car counts are looking up with Rebellion joining LMP2 and general excitement for the new LMP2 cars. Manufacturers include Riley/Multimatic, Ligier, Dallara, and Oreca. DPi's are not allowed at Le Mans or any WEC race which are based on LMP2 cars. GTE=Pro and Am is business as usual with many teams and a couple manufactures having their big dogs running for the championship and many fans crying Corvette isn’t running full time. Schedule 16 April: 6 Hours of Silverstone, GBR 06 May: 6 Hours of Spa, BEL 17/18 June: 24 Hours of Le Mans, FRA 16 July: 6 Hours of Nürburgring, DEU 03 September: 6 Hours of Mexico City 16 September: 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas, USA 15 October: 6 Hours of Fuji, JPN 05 November: 6 Hours of Shanghai, CHN 18 November: 6 Hours of Bahrain, BAH The European Le Mans Series is actually a good rear end series with tons and tons of prototype racing and some GT racing. Helps having a super strong LMP2 count since it’s the cheaper than using LMP1 and has made a big step in power in the new LMP2 class. With the driver ranking system allowing a silver or bronze driver in the car, it makes guys who have wads of cash from their totally respectable, not breaking any laws whatsoever businesses and race fast cars. LMP3 cars are starting to get their car counts up very well and getting many competitive teams together. Also GTE class, nothing too special in the class though. Schedule March 28-29 Prologue (Monza) April 15 Silverstone May 14 Monza July 23 Red Bull Ring Aug. 27 Paul Ricard Sept. 24 Spa-Francorchamps October 22 Portimao The 4th Season of WTSC, IMSA, whatever you want to call it. The big thing to watch for this year is the completely new look to the Prototype class. Still uses 2 different cars but we now have the new LMP2 class and the modified LMP2 class which uses their own bodywork and engine, Daytona Prototype International. So far car counts will be massive with the impending death of LMPC. All of the rich guys are taking their ball to LMP2 which will allow them to go to Le Mans. Manufacturers that have thrown their hat in is Cadillac (3 cars), Mazda (2 cars), and Nissan (2 cars). GTLM as always will be a barn burner with a new Porsche to move the engine up to a mid engine car and continued fighting by everyone else. GTD continues to get stronger with Acura and Lexus bringing about their new cars. With the usage of GT3 equipment, more and more int'l teams are thinking of racing in America such as the Land Motorsport team, Grasser Racing Team (Lamborghini factory team), Manthey, and others who were rumored to race at Daytona. Schedule Jan. 26-24 Rolex 24 At Daytona P/PC/GTLM/GTD March 15-18 Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring Fueled by Fresh From Florida P/PC/GTLM/GTD April 7-8 BUBBA burger SportsCar Grand Prix at Long Beach P/GTLM/GTD May 5-7 Circuit of The Americas P/PC/GTLM/GTD June 2-3 Chevrolet Belle Isle Detroit Grand Prix P/PC/GTD June 30-July 2 Sahlen’s Six Hours of The Glen P/PC/GTLM/GTD July 7-9 Mobil 1 SportsCar Grand Prix (Mosport) P/PC/GTLM/GTD July 21-22 IMSA WeatherTech Northeast Grand Prix GTLM/GTD Aug. 4-6 Continental Tire Road Race Showcase (Road America) P/PC/GTLM/GTD Aug. 25-27 Michelin GT Challenge (VIR) GTLM/GTD Sept. 22-24 Continental Tire Monterey Grand Prix powered by Mazda P/GTLM/GTD Oct. 5-7 Petit Le Mans P/PC/GTLM/GTD New Cars Ligier JSP217 Nissan Onroak DPi (based on JSP217) Dallara LMP2 Cadillac DPi-V.R (based on the Dallara LMP2) Riley/Multimatic Mk XXX Mazda RT24-P (based on the Mk XXX) Oreca 07 Acura NSX GT3 Lexus RC F GT3 Porsche 911 RSR Come join us on Discord! https://discord.gg/kg3d2Uu Somebody fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Misc Threads of the Past Misc Auto Racing 2016 : Downgraded From Silver Posters to Bronze Misc Auto Racing 2015: At least our criminals are non-violent Misc Auto Racing 2014: So long and thanks for all the McNish Misc Auto Racing 2013: Beware: Ferrari Ahead Misc. Auto Racing 2012: No War But Class War Sportscars 2011: Racing with Class (ILMC/ALMS/GrandAm) 2011 Daytona 24 Hours 2010 Daytona 24 Hours harperdc posted:
MazeOfTzeentch posted:The Classes: MazeOfTzeentch posted:RACING THIS WEEKEND BMB5150 fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Feb 4, 2017 |
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Hi new thread e: could you link the old misc racing threads, thanks!
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iospace posted:Hi new thread e: Nevermind I got archives just so I can look at old stuff. Have those up here soon. BMB5150 fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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Hi 2017 thread! I'm sad to assume LMP1 will be a porsche parade this year, but maybe something good will come out of it eventually. I guess it's done to watching LMP2 and GT3/4 this year.
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No section for the World Rally Championshahaha?
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Gonna be a good year. Daytona next week, Bathurst the week after.
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Went back and found the old misc and Daytona threads. Anyone remember any other threads from archives unless I have to do the good old brute force look at every thread. There was some on Dakar and that'll I'll probably go back for.
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Race of Champions is happening this weekend in Miami. There's no crossover bridge this year, which is weird. IndyCar's Facebook page has some videos and livestreams, which currently has Hinch on his phone interviewing and doing what Hinch does best.
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There's a crossover?
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 21:16 |
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Need to have emotes by the Mazda. Also should have something about Blancpain and Super GT in the OP since them streaming free on Youtube makes them way easier to get into.
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CactusWeasle posted:There's a crossover? I said there was no crossover bridge. There's still a crossover.
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OH I know, I'm watching. I'm sure this wont cause anything bad to happen for at least the next 8 minutes
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CactusWeasle posted:OH I know, I'm watching. I'm sure this wont cause anything bad to happen for at least the next 8 minutes e: JFC thats the scariest RoC crash ive seen since it went indoors
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njsykora posted:Need to have emotes by the Mazda. Also should have something about Blancpain and Super GT in the OP since them streaming free on Youtube makes them way easier to get into. Yeah just wanted to get the OP and sportscar stuff. SuperGT I'm not well versed in (harperdc, you're being called) but can definitely can get a little thing for Blancpain.
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CactusWeasle posted:JFC thats the scariest RoC crash ive seen since it went indoors This was as the cars were finishing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRlvfk5gJmA ed- lol Sebastian is eliminated WindyMan fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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WindyMan posted:This was as the cars were finishing. loving christ.
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 22:07 |
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Kurt lost in a stock car
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# ? Jan 21, 2017 22:09 |
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It seems like one lane always has a huge advantage in putting power down out of the final corner.
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drat, Massa was fast in that buggy.
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LOL angry Felipe!
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Massa butthurt
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Juan gonna win dis
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Juan finishes Pjuan!
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Poor Tom Kristensen. At his age he'll never win anything in his career.
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Just solidifying his status of Greatest driver who ever lived
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julian assflange posted:No section for the World Rally Championshahaha? Just have it be "Don't bother driving in it unless your front name is Sebastien."
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 02:37 |
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Same summary as last year: Watch ERC instead if you can. Although honestly WRC is kinda interesting this year with the new regulations and no more VW.
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I've started following WRC this season since Redbull.tv is covering it.
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BMB5150 posted:Yeah just wanted to get the OP and sportscar stuff. SuperGT I'm not well versed in (harperdc, you're being called) but can definitely can get a little thing for Blancpain. I'll get something together tonight.
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WindyMan posted:This was as the cars were finishing. I guess Mercedes feels pretty good on not picking creepy looking guy for 2017.
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Super GT - Top Sports-car Racing Fun Time! The beauty of sports-car racing is how specialized it becomes in different places while using some of the same pieces. This holds true for the Autobacs Super GT championship, Japan's top-level sports car series and one of the more competitively balanced, interesting, and fun-to-watch racing series out there. With a 20-plus year history, a legacy of awesome and batshit crazy cars, and fun action, it should definitely be on your radar. The Super GT series consists of two classes: GT500 and GT300. This means there are two races within the event happening at the same time. GT500 cars have white windshield strips, white headlights and white number plates; the GT300 cars use yellow. All cars have two drivers, with some teams using three for the 1000 kilometer endurance race in the season. Pit stops are mandatory, tires and fuel etc. GT500 is the top level class. Teams campaign factory and factory-supported cars in the form of the Nissan GT-R, the Honda NSX (sans hybrid), and from 2017, the Lexus LC500. These cars are built using a shared tub with DTM, and also use the 2.0 liter 4-cylinder turbo base as also agreed with DTM. The teams develop their engines and aerodynamics, in addition to the rest of the chassis. Each manufacturer has good and bad teams. The last few years, the #1 Motul Nissan and #12 Calsonic Nissan were the standouts (the #24 and 46 both competitive), the #38 ZENT Toyota and #37 Keeper TOM'S car were the lead Lexus cars, and the Hondas were...there, I guess? The #17 Keihin car competed, but on the whole, the NSXes haven't been fast enough. Hopefully their trials and tribulations will lift a bit next year, as Mugen returns with a team in the championship too. The last few years have seen the factory Motul Nissan team match consistency with speed and win the title, but with much of the same in 2016, one of the longest-running teams in the competition, the #39 Denso SARD team, FINALLY took home the title at the last race of the year. This means a driver's title for former Worst Thread favorite Heikki "Fast Heikki" Kovaleinen, who's now enjoying life as a factory driver in Japan. There's enough good drivers and balance between three makes to mean the racing is great, and even between drivers in the same make, there are great battles. The "red" and "blue" Nissans have gone at each other as hard as any drivers in the world at times, same with the Lexuses. It's fantastic to watch. GT300 is the lower-level class and consists of cars following two main rulesets: GT3 and JAF (Japan Auto Federation aka Super GT). Plenty of GT3 cars are represented in Super GT, including the Nissan GT-R, Mercedes AMG-GT and SLS, Lamborghinis, BMWs, Porsche 911s, Audi R8s, etc. All the ones you'd expect from privateers. The other cars fall under homologation from the Japan Auto Federation, thus allowing for some wonderfully batshit crazy local creations to join the party. These come in a couple flavors. First, you have the infamous Toyota Prius. Operated by a Toyota dealer team in central Japan, the two cars are shaped like Prius sedans and used the Prius hybrid drivetrain but are mid-engined and make use of a Toyota LMP engine. Again, in a Prius. The other factory-supported oddity is the Subaru BRZ, which is operated by Subaru Sports and makes use of a standard layout but uses the old WRC engine. This sounds absolutely sensational in person, btw. The second format are what's called Mother chassis cars. These are a common tub/safety cell and share a "GTA" V8 engine roughly based on an older Nissan V8. Four teams competed with these last year, three as Toyota 86s (including the Tsuchiya team which won the championship) and one as the Lotus Evora. Another one has been unveiled in the offseason - another Toyota dealer team, running a Mark X sedan based off the Mother chassis. That all these cars are balanced well to be competitive is reason enough to watch Super GT. The last point to make is regarding the tires. To put it simply: Super GT is the last series with an active tire battle between multiple manufacturers. In GT500 and GT300, Michelin, Bridgestone, and Advan (Yokohama), and Dunlop all provide teams with tires that are developed throughout the year and actively help the teams to go farther than they could on a spec tire. Secretly, that's the reason why Super GT and DTM haven't shared a race yet - DTM cars on spec Hankooks would get smoked by any of the Super GT crews. How fast are they? This year, the GT500 race fastest lap at Fuji Speedway was a 1:30.6. That's two seconds faster than the best in-race time for the WEC LMP2 cars. A lot of that is down to the sticky, sticky rubber. ================= How and When to Watch If you're in Japan, it's o...okay so you're not in Japan. Well, luckily for you, Nissan has helped support promotion of the series by putting the Japanese coverage live on YouTube with commentary support from Radio LeMans. You can find the Super GT races at the NISMO.TV YouTube page, and if you're in a time zone to watch, or just want to watch afterwards, give it a shot. The 2016 races they covered are also up still. This is the final round of the season, for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s7wvfN_7bI Now, to complete an otherwise long guide about Super GT, here's the 2017 Schedule: Round 1 - Okayama - April 8-9 Round 2 - Fuji Speedway - May 3-4 Round 3 - Autopolis - May 20-21 Round 4 - Sportsland SUGO - July 22-23 Round 5 - Fuji Speedway - August 5-6 Round 6 - Suzuka Circuit - August 26-27 Round 7 - Chang Int'l Circuit (Thailand) - October 7-8 Round 8 - Twin Ring Motegi - November 11-12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oDWQf0ATcA LETS ENJOYING GT RACING 2017!!! harperdc fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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I kind of feel like there needs to be a calendar including all these race dates and times.
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Bentai posted:I kind of feel like there needs to be a calendar including all these race dates and times. https://rushsync.com/
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 12:08 |
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Ogier won Rally Monaco today. Haven't seen any highlights so don't know if the cars look/sound any good
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# ? Jan 22, 2017 18:11 |
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They are definitely faster, and seeing the aero working due to the dust is pretty cool. Sound the same to me. Ott Tanak had a misfire on the final stages that made his car sound much cooler and shoot flames from the exhaust. Ogier had a few offs and didn't look as impervious, but still won comfortably. Citroen being absolutely nowhere was probably the biggest news. The WRC youtube channel is pretty good, having highlights up within an hour or two of stages. Red Bull Tv has longer highlights featuring Mark Webber https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GQNEN1W11/fia-world-rally-championship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK5wcjmzH3M Humbug fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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He won it because everyone else had an even shittier Monte Carlo than him.
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 00:50 |
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well seeing Ford finally get a drivers championship will be neat i guess
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These new WRC cars are pretty nuts. Some highlights are just levels of speed.
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