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bump_fn posted:wtf is a monopsony a monopoly is a market with a single seller a monopsony is a market with a single buyer if an employer has total control over a particular labor market, they are a monopsony, because they buy labor rather than sell it.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the "market," such as it is, is itself a creature of the negotiations between the union and the single buyer, the MLB You are wrong. The MLB does not employ a single baseball player. It's okay to admit you're wrong when you're called on it. Just admit that you don't know what you're talking about and move on.
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i dont believe thats a real word its sounds like the freemium currency you need to buy in a playstation game
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Citizen Tayne posted:You are wrong. The MLB does not employ a single baseball player. the MLB does not sign any paychecks, it's true. nevertheless, all professional baseball players in the united states are employed by MLB franchises, and MLB performs all labor negotiations on the behalf of their franchisees. they literally have an anti-trust exemption written into law for this poo poo dude.
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so are unions good or bad now??
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bump_fn posted:i dont believe thats a real word it's not really a situation that comes up very often unless you study either labor economics or colonialism
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big scary monsters posted:so are unions good or bad now?? unions are good monopsonies arent a real word
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big scary monsters posted:so are unions good or bad now?? unions are mostly good but the pittsburg pee rat doesn't seem to understand how and why unions are formed
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the MLB does not sign any paychecks, it's true. nevertheless, all professional baseball players in the united states are employed by MLB franchises, and MLB performs all labor negotiations on the behalf of their franchisees. No, the loving MLB doesn't negotiate contracts. They negotiate the CBA. The individual teams negotiate contracts. http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/los-angeles-dodgers/clayton-kershaw-5273/ You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:unions are mostly good but the pittsburg pee rat doesn't seem to understand how and why unions are formed You're really mad about being wrong.
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wait, how is union formed? ...i'm asking for a friend
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re: america's sport are there any contractual differences between the divisions?
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infernal machines posted:re: america's sport NL plays like this AL plays like this
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Hey guys, does MLB or the individual teams have IT unions?
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they have a monogamy
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today i learned yospos is afraid of words you have to look up in a dictionary
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Citizen Tayne posted:No, the loving MLB doesn't negotiate contracts. They negotiate the CBA. The individual teams negotiate contracts. the cba determines the terms of all contracts, just like the franchise agreement determines in extraordinary detail how the franchisees will behave it's also worth noting the cba is, itself, a contract a master contract, negotiated by a union and the mlb, determines the possible terms in all individual contracts
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:today i learned yospos is afraid of words you have to look up in a dictionary i saw it in dictionaries and I'm still not convinced it's a word
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the cba determines the terms of all contracts, just like the franchise agreement determines in extraordinary detail how the franchisees will behave Holy poo poo, look at those goalposts fly. You are wrong.
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bump_fn posted:i saw it in dictionaries and I'm still not convinced it's a word you have a good ear for backformations as with a lot of greek-sounding academic terms it is a modern invention. someone took the (actual greek word) monopoly and created monopsony after the same pattern, in order to describe an analogous situation for a buyer instead of a seller
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Citizen Tayne posted:Holy poo poo, look at those goalposts fly. i don't think you understand how a corporation works. the "competition" between the pittsburgh pirates and the new york mets would be little different from "competition" between a pontiac plant and a chevrolet plant. the important difference is that the mlb is a monopsony, so the artificial "competition" between franchises, enforced by a union contract, creates real benefits for the employees. it's a sham, but it's a valuable sham.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:unions are mostly good but the pittsburg pee rat doesn't seem to understand how and why unions are formed we must do way instain sportsmans
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i don't think you understand how a corporation works. the "competition" between the pittsburgh pirates and the new york mets would be little different from "competition" between a pontiac plant and a chevrolet plant. lol you think tori is arguing in good faith
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol you think tori is arguing in good faith benefit of the doubt
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i don't think you understand how a corporation works. the "competition" between the pittsburgh pirates and the new york mets would be little different from "competition" between a pontiac plant and a chevrolet plant. You do not seem to understand that the Pirates and the Mets are completely different companies that are not associated in any way beyond membership in the MLB. The MLB does not employ a single baseball player.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol you think tori is arguing in good faith He's completely wrong and he can't admit it.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i don't think you understand how a corporation works. the "competition" between the pittsburgh pirates and the new york mets would be little different from "competition" between a pontiac plant and a chevrolet plant. I'm quoting this again because it's incredible how wrong it is. Pontiac and Chevrolet are trademarks owned by one corporation. The Mets and the Pirates are entirely separate companies. You are, and continue to be, wrong.
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"all mlb teams are one corporation adurr durrrrr" - Guy who lives in a world where pitchers are getting $250M+ contracts due to competition that he claims doesn't exist.
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Citizen Tayne posted:He's completely wrong and he can't admit it. nbsd's 'tism is quite strong
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mishaq posted:nbsd's 'tism is quite strong It's the most internet thing possible in that he made a simple mistake when talking about something he doesn't know anything about ("MLB is a monopsony"), and instead of saying "oh, okay, thanks for the correction" he argues for two hours about it because he's terrified of ever being seen to be wrong about anything.
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when is the op coming back to tell us more about their it union?
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shitposters union local 219
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lol @ tori getting owned by nbsd of all people
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A Pinball Wizard posted:lol @ tori getting owned by nbsd of all people Being dumb and wrong isn't owning anyone.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i don't think you understand how a corporation works. the "competition" between the pittsburgh pirates and the new york mets would be little different from "competition" between a pontiac plant and a chevrolet plant. yeah I remember my childhood of going down to the gm plant and cheering for my favorite line shift
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we're straying away from the major point here that computer touchers aren't real workers and do not deserve to be in a union
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do my fingers not ache after a long day of coding? is my carpal tunnel not real? are my obesity and diabetes from a sedentary work environment fueled by free sodas provided by my employer not job hazards? stand up and unite fellow laborers, only together can we improve our conditions!
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my union rep told me that standing desks cause varicose veins so that's why we have motorized adjustable stand/sit desks now
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Citizen Tayne posted:Holy poo poo, look at those goalposts fly. there aren't any goal posts in baseball
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