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Stormgale posted:It slightly ruined the emotional tone of this scene but all I could think of the final panel (with the eye effects) was: Multi-Psychopomp Drifting i went immediately to jojo awaken, my masters
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Surprise! Psychopomps are actually assholes! (Please pretend to be surprised, everyone.)
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Well, I'm glad that that's settled.
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Jan 23, 2017 09:09
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One of them is going to point to Kat and say, "Well, she's not bound by the Laws yet, so ask her to fix it then, ye feckin' eejit!"
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Jan 23, 2017 09:13
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And now Kat will do a Robo Jesus and turn Smitty into a tech priest. Praise the Omnissiah.
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Jan 23, 2017 09:23
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I mean, they're right. They don't owe her jack, that's not how the system works
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Daius posted:I mean, they're right. They don't owe her jack, that's not how the system works That kind of makes them even worse though, because they were basically pushing her to risk her life and the lives of her friends because... Well, because they wanted her to. "Fix this for us, then gently caress off. We're busy doing things other than taking care of our own problems." I mean, I'm not surprised that Sachiel there's being a jerk, but this is really disappointing from Muut.
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Jan 23, 2017 09:37
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They've been jerks since the beginning. We've seen them literally fighting over the souls of children.
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I mean, their refusal might seem cold but this is probably one of *the* big no-nos for a psycho pomp here. If you stop someone from dying in the fullness of time then they don't pass into the ether and since dead people "ensure the world keeps spinning", you can see how doing it once would set a bad precedent. Reminder that there was a Psychopomp who died at Jeanne's hand and they did nothing.
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Jan 23, 2017 10:08
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Three pages later, Annie is the only psychopomp left in the world.
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I'm starting to get annoyed about the lack of teleporting.
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Jan 23, 2017 10:20
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I suppose this is going to be a lesson in how doing the right thing won't always end well for you.
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Jan 23, 2017 10:26
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I'm starting to get annoyed about the lack of teleporting.
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Jan 23, 2017 10:39
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I mean, they're not wrong.
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I guess that's why Annie was in such a hurry to get the ghosts outta here, she probably thought they'd help her out for solving that problem.
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Daius posted:I mean, they're right. They don't owe her jack, that's not how the system works Agreed
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Stormgale posted:I suppose this is going to be a lesson in how doing the right thing won't always end well for you. i'm still not clear on why they involved zero adults, or even jones.
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A big flaming stink posted:i'm still not clear on why they involved zero adults, or even jones. You are an adult. A group of plucky teens approches you with their janky plan to mess with an horrifically dangerous being. You: A) Help them. B)loving try to prevent them from being murdered.
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Jan 23, 2017 11:43
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Ehhh, the whole "we don't owe you anything" spiel would work better if Smitty hadn't been mortally wounded helping Annie do the psychopomp's job for them. I mean, the entire reason this was necessary was because Jeanne would've murdered any psychopomp that got close. So Annie and her friends are the only ones with balls big enough to even try, they do it, one of them gets stabbed in the process, and the psychopomps go "nah, we won't save him because reasons, also lol thanks for doing our job for us." The point is, gently caress you, Muut. Arthur Crackpot fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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He's obviously not going to help, and there's no point in arguing about it. It's a Muut point.
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Scholtz posted:He's obviously not going to help, and there's no point in arguing about it. It's a Muut point. Boooo! A sound Smitty will soon make for he will be dead and possibly a ghost soon.
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A big flaming stink posted:i'm still not clear on why they involved zero adults, or even jones. Any good parents who were told about this would have kicked up 
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Arthur Crackpot posted:Ehhh, the whole "we don't owe you anything" spiel would work better if Smitty hadn't been mortally wounded helping Annie do the psychopomp's job for them. Well, their reasoning is probably that Annie being acting as a Psychopomp herself, she did her job and shouldn't expect any reward for it. That and probably not being allowed to interfer with actual deaths.
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Iceclaw posted:Well, their reasoning is probably that Annie being acting as a Psychopomp herself, she did her job and shouldn't expect any reward for it. That and probably not being allowed to interfer with actual deaths. But by that same reasoning, isn't anyone helping Annie acting as a Psychopomp as well? This was a group effort, after all. Annie couldn't have done it on her own. So either there's a rule that states Psychopomps aren't allowed to help their own, or they're just being assholes.
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In short, hopefully this results in Annie killing a lot more psychopomps than Jeanne ever could. Burn them all, Annie.
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Arthur Crackpot posted:But by that same reasoning, isn't anyone helping Annie acting as a Psychopomp as well? This was a group effort, after all. Annie couldn't have done it on her own. So either there's a rule that states Psychopomps aren't allowed to help their own, or they're just being assholes. Psychopomp is obviously something of a status, judging by Annie being "marked" as a Psychopomp when she went to the RotD. The whole guiding into the ether aspect (which is the key aspect, from the psychopomp point of view) is done by Annie, who is the only one we've ever been told is a psychopomp. Of course, this does create an interesting paradox of why Annie doesn't get railed on "interfering with the living" considering her Psychopomp status, but who knows, maybe being a alive, "human" Psychopomps is one of those neat loopholes. e: Also, its unclear from Parley's glance but I'm really hoping none of them can see Muut & Co so to everyone else it just looks like Annie is shouting at empty air while her friend bleeds out. Arianya fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Personally I'm hoping that they're refusing to help because they're, you know, psychopomps. They know when it's someone's time to die and Smitty isn't due to die now. So they're fine making a big show of being impartial jerks and refusing to help because they don't actually need to do anything anyway.
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There actually aren't any rules against Psychopomps helping; Muut is just really pissed about that one time Kat punched him and this is how he's getting revenge.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I'm starting to get annoyed about the lack of teleporting. None of them will remember Parley can teleport until it's too late.
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*points at Kat* "Honestly we just don't want to get any closer to that thing"
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Do you want barbequed 'pomps? because this is how you get barbequed 'pomps.
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EmmyOk posted:Any good parents who were told about this Ah, then it would have been fine to ask Annie's dad. Muut will probably change his mind once he sees Kat's True Form™ and decides he doesn't want to get punched by that.
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amishjosh posted:Do you want barbequed 'pomps? because this is how you get barbequed 'pomps. About to go Pompeii in here
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LashLightning posted:Ah, then it would have been fine to ask Annie's dad. Maybe he already did. We didn't see that scene from Muut's point of view. Maybe back then, he barely survived that unprovoked assault. Ever since then he has a deep grudge and he was actually hoping that Annie and Kat would die trying to release Jeanne. "Oh by the way Antimony, now that you guys are done here, over there in Finnland there is an army of frost giants who are in a really similar situation. I bet you want to help them out too. No need to plan anything. Just be confident in yourselves." Would be a weird twist. Now that I think about it, we always assumed that Jeannes job was to keep forest dwellers out. What if her true purpose was to get rid of all the upcomming Psychopomps. Maybe they want to steal the souls of the forest expats, which are stored in totems nearby. The dead one did say that he wanted to claim his stuff. Come to think of it, who exactly did all the final recordings for Jeannes clients? How deep does this go? cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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I don't think the psychopomps necessarily see Kat's angel form. She only appears that way when entering the ether. Do etheric beings see the physical world as physical, or do they see the etheric version of things too? If you are in the ether, do you get to see etheric projects of people not currently in the ether? Even when they entered the RotD, Kat and Annie entered as physical beings and not as etheric beings. I think Kat's angel form has been completely hidden from other characters until now, except Zimmy, but that is a special case since her perceptions/powers blend the real and etheric. I'd be interested in seeing any counter examples to this theory.
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What if Smitty dies, Annie claims his spirit ... then she refuses to take him into the ether? Maybe that would clog up the psychopomps somehow and give her leverage. Or end the world. Either or.
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Lol at this page: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1320
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