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Hey Hard, when are recruits finally getting that second wall reinforcement and gun optics that don't rely on vastly uneven ironsight apertures? 
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Jan 25, 2017 15:38
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Give recruits attachments. Also make attachments a thing you don't have to unlock for each gun and just make poo poo more expensive.
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Jan 25, 2017 15:52
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Lemon-Lime posted:Hey Hard, when are recruits finally getting that second wall reinforcement and gun optics that don't rely on vastly uneven ironsight apertures? Still agree 100% with this, one of the major bummers about this game is that I can't get a gun RP boner since operators are strictly limited to 2 or 3 weapons.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:46
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Lemon-Lime posted:Hey Hard, when are recruits finally getting that second wall reinforcement and gun optics that don't rely on vastly uneven ironsight apertures? It could be worse, you could be using the absolutely hideous FN FAL irons.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:50
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Getting zero attachments on recruit guns wouldn't really be an issue if the guns all had identical optics, but instead you have poo poo like the UMP ironsights vs. AK ironsights.
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Jan 25, 2017 16:51
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What was the original design philosophy behind limiting recruits and does it still apply?
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Jan 25, 2017 16:55
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What was the original design philosophy behind limiting recruits and does it still apply? Entice you to unlock operators and maybe spend cash to get them all faster? I dunno really considering it doesn't take long to unlock all the base operators.
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Jan 25, 2017 17:05
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Recruits seem more about giving players something that was barely usable until they unlocked operators, they're intended as a stop-gap, not an equivalent alternative to the proper operators.
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Jan 25, 2017 17:08
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Having one reinforcement is dumb
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Jan 25, 2017 17:08
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Having one reinforcement is dumb That's just how Rainbow Six hazes the rookies.
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Jan 25, 2017 17:41
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Having one reinforcement is dumb You're already penalized by not having optics/attachments, having 1 reinforcement is just icing on the cake of poo poo. edit: here's the FAL irons: http://streamable.com/7b12 Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 17:42
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Aimpoints and foregrips are for earners.
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Jan 25, 2017 17:44
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Party Plane Jones posted:It could be worse, you could be using the absolutely hideous FN FAL irons. http://streamable.com/7b12 
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Jan 25, 2017 17:52
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The one reinforcement hurts the whole team. If someone wants a lovely gun for a unique combination of stats and gear sure, but hurting the entire defense is lame. Also it makes recruit attackers just better
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Jan 25, 2017 17:58
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Recruit also get the best ski-masks. VVV It might make them look at operator abilities and make sure they actually are very useful and worth taking over a the recruit with a great gun loadout. BadLlama fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 18:03
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I agree that they should get 2 reinforcements, but I think giving them all sights is a bad idea, I don't need 5 people running out spawncamping with the jager gun each game, or 5 people with a famas and frag grenade. People already pick recruit shield over the dedicated shield operators a ton of the time, the extra choice gives them a lot of versatility. If you extended that to every role in the game things would get old really fast.
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Jan 25, 2017 18:08
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lohli posted:Recruits seem more about giving players something that was barely usable until they unlocked operators, they're intended as a stop-gap, not an equivalent alternative to the proper operators. Which is really loving dumb. They're in the game, they should be as viable as any of the named operators. If this bothers the Siege dev team, they can just pretend they've made a brand new named operator called Reginald E. Cruit whose perk is the ability to choose from more weapons/gadgets than normal operators, or something.
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Jan 25, 2017 18:10
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The invite link in the Op for discord has been fixed now.
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Jan 25, 2017 18:32
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Koramei posted:I agree that they should get 2 reinforcements, but I think giving them all sights is a bad idea, I don't need 5 people running out spawncamping with the jager gun each game, or 5 people with a famas and frag grenade. People already pick recruit shield over the dedicated shield operators a ton of the time, the extra choice gives them a lot of versatility. If you extended that to every role in the game things would get old really fast. This. Don't give them sights, or anything else you spend renown on. They're recruits, they don't get anything fancy.
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Jan 25, 2017 18:45
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Recruits are fine how they are The best weapon loadouts more than make up for the lack of reinforcements and sights
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Jan 25, 2017 18:52
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Vahakyla posted:Yeah but Made one, cause I too was tired of waiting for one to be made. It's my first thread, be gentle! 
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Jan 25, 2017 19:44
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I agree with giving recruits 2 reinforcements but really disagree with letting them have attachments. Some of the Ops are so annoying to fight just one of and the idea of having to deal with multiple slightly handicapped versions of those Ops doesn't sound fun. I also think it would encourage a lone wolf style of play that really has no place in Siege outside of the classes that are meant for roaming. Unless... Unless there was a recruit only mode. Siege boiled down to the meat and potatoes sounds really interesting.
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Jan 25, 2017 19:47
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Just put red dots on all recruit guns; they don't need to get a choice of optics, just not be stuck with ironsights that make some guns unusable and have no negative effect on others.
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Jan 25, 2017 19:49
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Lemon-Lime posted:Just put red dots on all recruit guns; they don't need to get a choice of optics, just not be stuck with ironsights that make some guns unusable and have no negative effect on others. Iron sights are more than usable though??
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Jan 25, 2017 19:57
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Put the Trijicon on every recruit gun. That way it's uniform but still terrible.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:02
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The Duggler posted:Iron sights are more than usable though?? Yeah seriously. I get that some guns have really poo poo irons but then why are you not just using the Op that gets that gun anyway? And if the answer is someone picked it already well it's time to learn a new class. Doesn't help the team at all if you are the sickest Ash player and suck at everything else.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:09
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IceOrb posted:Unless there was a recruit only mode. Siege boiled down to the meat and potatoes sounds really interesting. This is called custom game Realistic. Bonus if all 10 players are in the same voice channel.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:55
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Maybe just take away recruits so we don't have to see a bunch of backseat game designers think they know the developer's vision and balance better than they do. This is a game of characters with asymmetrical sides and strengths and weaknesses. Expect to sacrifice potency if you want customization that crosses those lines.
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Jan 25, 2017 20:57
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Hard posted:This is called custom game Realistic. Yeah well I don't feel like setting up a custom game Hard! gently caress!
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Jan 25, 2017 21:02
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recruits dont need attatchments when they have nitro
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Jan 25, 2017 21:10
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Hard posted:This is called custom game Realistic. I'm not getting tricked into the mode where breeching charges explode in my hand again hard
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Jan 25, 2017 21:12
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SatelliteCore posted:Maybe just take away recruits so we don't have to see a bunch of backseat game designers think they know the developer's vision and balance better than they do. drat so edgy friend.
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Jan 25, 2017 21:23
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I'm not getting tricked into the mode where breeching charges explode in my hand again hard The Thermite bug where it wouldn't detonate until you went to remove it from the wall was A loving +.
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Jan 25, 2017 21:27
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I've seen recruits as foremost a punishment for excessive AFK during queues. It also kind of gives brand new players something to aspire to. New players who possibly wouldn't use their class ability or both walls effectively before dieing. And not to defend the imbalance, buy lacking your favorite scope feels worse on attacker where good peeks are more critical.
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Jan 25, 2017 21:32
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Is ubisoft intentionally causing all these ranked outages so nondedicated servers look more palatable in For Honor?
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Jan 25, 2017 22:10
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This game just keeps getting .... worse.      
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Jan 26, 2017 00:55
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You can disable text chat. All games have toxic players.
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Jan 26, 2017 00:58
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tjones posted:You can disable text chat. All games have toxic players. Not all games are built around team communication though, and on top of that, you can't very well disable microphones either.
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Jan 26, 2017 01:00
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slap me and kiss me posted:Not all games are built around team communication though, and on top of that, you can't very well disable microphones either. Any game built with team based communication in mind will be the worse candidates for this behavior., especially games that have ranked play lists. The game settings have a slider for voice chat volume. I'm fairly certain there is a mute function to ignore any specific player. Discord/ts/whatever is something you should consider. Encountering lovely players is not something new and the game gives you more than a few ways to combat them.
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The solution here is to play with goons.
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