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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, Dave has the WM card as: Professor Funk posted:This seems like the absolute worst direction they could go. It's a wrestlemania wherein neither Cena nor Reigns have the title. Orton/Wyatt and Jericho/Owens are both potentially cool matches to main event WM. aside from wasting AJ Styles this is a better way to go than Roman Reigns Wins Again. I'd absolutely love Joe versus Cena, poo poo would be brutal. It could be better but nowhere near the level of dogshit we got last year and successfully completes a few storylines in the process, while also creating a new one with Cena v. Joe. I don't think this will happen, though.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, Dave has the WM card as: that looks loving awful
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Bigass Moth posted:Why would they run Golberg vs. Lesnar again? So Lesnar can get his win back.
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Bigass Moth posted:Why would they run Golberg vs. Lesnar again? Because Lesnar is going to get his win back. I'm not particularly excited about it, but I think it makes sense from a booking perspective.
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MinibarMatchman posted:It's a wrestlemania wherein neither Cena nor Reigns have the title. Orton/Wyatt and Jericho/Owens are both potentially cool matches to main event WM. aside from wasting AJ Styles this is a better way to go than Roman Reigns Wins Again. I'd absolutely love Joe versus Cena, poo poo would be brutal. Reigns will have the title and defend it against Undertaker. Jericho vs Owens will be for the US title Some of the matchups are weird, which is nice, but I'm struggling to find one good match. Jericho / Owens will be okay, I guess. Actually there'll probably be some tag team ladder match or some nonsense that won't be terrible
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Under the vegetable posted:Dean sucks though. Actually Dean is very good
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:Reigns will have the title and defend it against Undertaker. Jericho vs Owens will be for the US title A ton really does depend on Balor. If he's medically cleared, it could change the card pretty drastically. If it's happening, Cena/Joe will loving rule, but I think it's crazy that AJ & Dean basically carried Smackdown through the brand split and aren't accounted for yet.
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Professor Funk posted:A ton really does depend on Balor. If he's medically cleared, it could change the card completely. I assume Dean will defend in some multiple person nonsense. AJ probably could have a great match with ~2001 Shane McMahon, but I really have doubts about current day Shane (especially if its without a gimmick stipulation) I mean Cena / Joe will have the standard "big" Cena match, where its just a bunch of finisher kickouts and if you love Samoa Joe you'll probably think its great because its him kicking out as opposed to Roman Reigns or whoever
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, Dave has the WM card as: one smackdown match
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:I mean Cena / Joe will have the standard "big" Cena match, where its just a bunch of finisher kickouts and if you love Samoa Joe you'll probably think its great because its him kicking out as opposed to Roman Reigns or whoever Samoa Joe is much better and cooler than Roman Reigns. On the Reigns front, the more I think about it I really wouldn't mind a Reigns/Braun match at 'Mania. In fact it might be kinda fun and I hope they go that direction instead of Reigns/Taker. Given how much they've built up Braun the past year, I don't even think it needs a title. Now that Owens/Reigns is No DQ, just have BRAUN come in and destroy Reigns and cost him the match, and voila. This would also allow a natural setup for either Owens/Jericho for the belt, or Balor/Owens if Balor gets back.
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Samoa Joseph is a god amongst men and I will be very excited as long as we are 110% certain he stays off Raw. And looks bigger and stronger than Roman. The Bigger Dog: Joseph
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Samoa Joe is definitely good, but I just don't like big Cena matches since they fall into a pattern even when its with someone good (I much preferred Dean v AJ to Cena v AJ) On the bright side, this has more or less cemented my decision to forego Wrestlemania and instead just go to the CMLL Anniversary Show & some NJPW show this year
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Under the vegetable posted:Dean sucks though. I'm just imagining as though the Smackdown announcer is saying it DEEEEEEAAAAAN SUCKSTHOUGH!
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Eh that's not the full card I think the IC will be the blowoff between Miz and Dean CWs will inherit the multi man ladder match AA vs Usos Cesaro and Sheamus vs a Raw Tag Team Becky vs Mickie Interbrand Women's tag match Braun winning the battle royale
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Please don't forget the First Annual Clean and Bench Press Competition starring Roman Reigns and nobody else. It's a 30 minute competition to show how big and strong and dog he is. I'm salivating just thinking about it myself.
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achillesforever6 posted:Eh that's not the full card Yeah, I was gonna say, for as much praise AJ/Dean were getting for carrying Smackdown, the Miz was there putting in work, too.
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Braun should pretend to throw a tennis ball to Roman, and when Roman is distracted he can roll him up real fast.
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, Dave has the WM card as: Im ok with this. No Ziggler.
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I could see Renee and Dean vs. Maryse and Miz
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Venomous posted:Actually Dean is very good I mostly just like saying that he sucks. I feel like he used to be better, when he had a little more size. seems like his offense used to look more impactful, too. i cant fault a guy for wanting to work safe after the career he's had though
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Dean Ambrose will win the Rumble and be involved in all the matches at Wrestlemania. He is the best. Dean vs AJ Vs Cena Dean vs Miz - IC title Brawn vs Taker (Dean is guest ref) Samoan Joe vs Rhyno (Dean is timekeeper) Goldberg vs Lesnar (insert promo from Dean) Multi woman Dean on a pole match Ultimate posedown - Dean-o Bravo vs big show End the show with Dean/Rene wedding. Throw in a tag schmozz and Battle royal on the undercard (both featuring Dean) and you have a hell of a show.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Dean Ambrose will win the Rumble and be involved in all the matches at Wrestlemania. He is the best. Unironically less ham fisted than last year in terms of getting one guy over at the expense of everyone else.
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I would much rather see Reigns-Strowman than Taker-Reigns. At least the former would be mercifully kept short so as to not expose Strowman. The latter will be way too long and is being shoehorned in to give Reigns a win over him before he retires. I will say though that if Taker said this is it, I'm done after this, having Reigns turn by burying the Undertaker for good would be masterful.
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I figured you guys would be more excited at the idea of Bray Wyatt as the champ at Wrestlemania
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89 posted:I figured you guys would be more excited at the idea of Bray Wyatt as the champ at Wrestlemania AJ/Wyatt has no build whatsoever, Cena/Wyatt involves turning the run that ties Cena with Flair at 16 into a transitional reign, and at the end of the day....what's Orton's master plan? "I invaded your family, broke them apart & in the process brought you the only success you've ever had, the tag team and WWE titles....and now I'm taking them away!"? Congratulations Randy, you turned an incompetent swamp wizard into the Face of Fear That Runs The Place. That'll teach him. That said if Bray retains and rejoins with Harper and/or Rowan to throw in Randy's face the fact that they used him as leverage to reach the mountaintop I'd be pretty happy with it.
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The Randy / Wyatts storyline has been good but not good enough to make them rocketing into the main event seem natural. Especially if Cena and AJ and Dean and Miz and Ziggler are all shunted to the midcard over the course of two months. It's basically flipping that section of the card on its head.
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oldskool posted:AJ/Wyatt has no build whatsoever, Cena/Wyatt involves turning the run that ties Cena with Flair at 16 into a transitional reign, and at the end of the day....what's Orton's master plan? "I invaded your family, broke them apart & in the process brought you the only success you've ever had, the tag team and WWE titles....and now I'm taking them away!"? Congratulations Randy, you turned an incompetent swamp wizard into the Face of Fear That Runs The Place. That'll teach him. To be fair, Bray is probably gonna get a spot in the chamber. Orton too if he doesn't win the rumble.
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*randomly throws the belt on a guy in a six-man meaningless clusterfuck a month before the big show* ahh, thats the meaningful achievement i've been wanting for this guy
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Senerio posted:To be fair, Bray is probably gonna get a spot in the chamber. Orton too if he doesn't win the rumble. I totally forgot the Chamber was back between the Rumble and Mania.  I love the concept of putting it there. One spot in the Wrestlemania main event for whoever survives the thirty-man rumble, and the only other way in is conquering five other guys in the Elimination Chamber. Really hypes how important the Mania main event is, that guys will go to such lengths to get in it.
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oldskool posted:I totally forgot the Chamber was back between the Rumble and Mania. or rather the co main. So you know Raw's main which goes on last is even more important!
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achillesforever6 posted:Eh that's not the full card How many of those are going to be on the 14 hour pre-show, though?
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If you think about it, everything from the day after Wrestlemania is just the pre-show for the next Wrestlemania
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Abroham Lincoln posted:If you think about it, everything is just the pre-show for death
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It'll be cool for all the people who don't read the observer if Randy and Cena win at the Rumble, especially if the turn by Randy on Wyatt happens at the finish of the Rumble. I'm super cool with a build up, "Cena vs. Orton as business as usual," for two weeks, and then, bang, Wyatt's the champion at Elimination Chamber and things get real fuckin' weird with the fat dirty wizard going hog wild with the title until Mania.
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Money on Orton https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/824953213820477442
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