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KataraniSword posted:Yeah, pentabreak stacks with full break effects. I don't know where people get this idea that Mustadio is terrible, but it's irritating as poo poo. He isn't. He's actually very good. He has better stats than most Support characters (especially ranged Supports), can bring the full suite of Machinist options which will include some seriously good DPS abilities in the future especially when coupled with his plus TWELVE percent Machinist damage record dive, and oh yeah he can bring the most important breaks (Power/Magic Breakdown) too. He can even use swords, so he's not poo poo out of luck in no-gun realms like Barret or Irvine -- and remember that Machinist abilities are inherently ranged so he can sword from the back row. And he's got a great SB in his AOE Pentabreak. He's dramatically better than Laguna; trading Support 4 access for Combat 4 access is a godawful terrible trade, and unless you're bringing an ice team Laguna has no SBs worth mentioning. Also in the next Tactics event, ~3 months out, he gets one of the best support/dps BSBs in the game.
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Zurai posted:...and remember that Machinist abilities are inherently ranged so he can sword from the back row. How in the hell did I not know this? I really gotta read descriptions more closely.
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Jan 27, 2017 06:18
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I mean, this banner looked great for me because I wanted one or more of: 1) The OSB 2) Any of the BSB 3) Cleansing Strike 4) Any Ovelia relic for CM use 5) Any weapon to shore up my realm synergy. And then the pull skilfully homed in on the one item I didn't want or need. 
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Zurai posted:He's dramatically better than Laguna; trading Support 4 access for Combat 4 access is a godawful terrible trade, and unless you're bringing an ice team Laguna has no SBs worth mentioning. Wouldn't say no SBs - Laguna's Burst is actually very solid, it's Imperil-Lightning plus a good DPS combo (more if you honed Tempest Snipe). Its real problem is that it's on a separate banner than Squall/Irvine's Bursts.
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EDIT: I'm pretty sure I hosed up my FFT events 
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KataraniSword posted:
Am I missing something? We just got it with this event, I have it right this second.
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Is Deployment Tactics even worth using if I also have Alphinaud's BSB? I've been playing around with it and it seems like I'd almost always be better off just chain-spamming his BSB 1 command instead, at least against single targets. But honestly, it seems like his BSB would be the way to go for multi-target fights too, since then I could use it to spam summons or something instead. I guess maybe a multi-target fight where there's absurd amounts of AoE getting flung around might be the exception? I was kinda excited to pull it at first, but it's starting to feel like one of those Iga Blade moments where it would be awesome if I didn't have Alph's BSB, but since I do, it just doesn't quite justify itself.
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Combo posted:Am I missing something? We just got it with this event, I have it right this second. ...no, but maybe I am missing something.  I may have gotten my wires crossed if we got it with this event.EDIT: loving hell we did get it with this event. Salt rescinded, Machinist actually has some sort of utility now that isn't just "ranged attacks" or "status". KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jan 27, 2017 |
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KataraniSword posted:...no, but maybe I am missing something. You get it from the last fight available right now in the event.
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Are you thinking of Tempest Snipe, the 6-hit Lightning ability? Rapid Fire is pretty nice DPS I guess, but the Machinist pool is a little small for me to consider honing it.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Is Deployment Tactics even worth using if I also have Alphinaud's BSB? I've been playing around with it and it seems like I'd almost always be better off just chain-spamming his BSB 1 command instead, at least against single targets. But honestly, it seems like his BSB would be the way to go for multi-target fights too, since then I could use it to spam summons or something instead. I guess maybe a multi-target fight where there's absurd amounts of AoE getting flung around might be the exception? Radiant Shield does some good work in MP. The atk/mag buff can be handy if you have no other options or need it for the realm. BSB will still be better most of the time but it just gives you that much more flexibility and should cement him a spot on your A Team. I use Ramza for shout almost all the time but every now and then Tailwind is needed in a pinch or I need to interrupt a boss for a medal with his Throw Stone SB. Just more tools in the toolbox.
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Nickoten posted:I really think BSBs are generally just more useful than OSBs anyway outside of certain scenarios (e.g. Orlandu OSB or an enelement + OSB combo). Being able to have cool effects like Gafgarrion's healing on an attacker BSB expands your options more than just having yet another way to deal big burst damage.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Wouldn't say no SBs - Laguna's Burst is actually very solid, it's Imperil-Lightning plus a good DPS combo (more if you honed Tempest Snipe). Its real problem is that it's on a separate banner than Squall/Irvine's Bursts. Whoops you're right, I forgot Laguna got his BSB and it's similar to but worse than Mustadio's BSB unless you're all-in on lightning or really want to abuse Tempest Snipe. Personally I think Mustadio's Reverse Wall entry and Support 4 access is way better, but I did completely forget about Laguna's BSB so mea culpa there.
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Did an ill adviced ragewhale pull: It'd be lovely to get like, 2 relics, maybe game? Ah well, at least I got a GOOD item now.
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Dammit. I want to combine these two Saintly Excaliburs and then shovel Rosetta Stones in to make one godlike weapon, but... at 171 attack each, they're more powerful than any other physical weapon I have, and keeping an extra one around as a general physical weapon in realms with really bad synergy might help. On the other hand, having one super-buff stat stick would be even better. For FFT synergy I think I'm okay, I have an Iga Blade+ katana and a generic Spellbinder dagger, although obviously neither of those are as good as a single Saintly Excalibur. Maybe I should wait until after the event is over, although I'm not too worried about being able to clear all the bonus battles as an Orlandeau OSB-haver.
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Shock Trooper posted:Dammit. I want to combine these two Saintly Excaliburs and then shovel Rosetta Stones in to make one godlike weapon, but... at 171 attack each, they're more powerful than any other physical weapon I have, and keeping an extra one around as a general physical weapon in realms with really bad synergy might help. On the other hand, having one super-buff stat stick would be even better. For FFT synergy I think I'm okay, I have an Iga Blade+ katana and a generic Spellbinder dagger, although obviously neither of those are as good as a single Saintly Excalibur. Maybe I should wait until after the event is over, although I'm not too worried about being able to clear all the bonus battles as an Orlandeau OSB-haver. blahblahblah Gacha loves me blahblahblah I'm so lucky blahblahblah Sorry, couldn't resist. If synergy wise you're ok, it really depends on how many physical attackers you generally rock, I guess. If you run full/heavy physical, two slightly weaker weapons might be more solid, depending on your overall synergy. If you run fewer physical/sword users or generally have at least two solid synergy weapons, the beatstick is the better option.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Is Deployment Tactics even worth using if I also have Alphinaud's BSB? I've been playing around with it and it seems like I'd almost always be better off just chain-spamming his BSB 1 command instead, at least against single targets. But honestly, it seems like his BSB would be the way to go for multi-target fights too, since then I could use it to spam summons or something instead. I guess maybe a multi-target fight where there's absurd amounts of AoE getting flung around might be the exception? Really useful for tough bosses that do unfair amounts of AoE attacks, especially gravity ones. Really REALLY useful for those AoE-spamming bosses in multiplayer - when you can deal like 15-25k retaliation damage, it's very worth it and you'll still be able to pop off his BSB if the boss is a real piece of poo poo
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Shock Trooper posted:Dammit. I want to combine these two Saintly Excaliburs and then shovel Rosetta Stones in to make one godlike weapon, but... at 171 attack each, they're more powerful than any other physical weapon I have, and keeping an extra one around as a general physical weapon in realms with really bad synergy might help. On the other hand, having one super-buff stat stick would be even better. For FFT synergy I think I'm okay, I have an Iga Blade+ katana and a generic Spellbinder dagger, although obviously neither of those are as good as a single Saintly Excalibur. Maybe I should wait until after the event is over, although I'm not too worried about being able to clear all the bonus battles as an Orlandeau OSB-haver. You might also think about the future- maybe you don't need two +holy swords NOW, but you might pull some great SBs later for a holy team. Having two +holy swords that are basically as strong as synergy 5* swords that you can use in any realm guarantees you could do awesome damage with a holy team. Honestly, the little bit of additional ATK you get from taking a 6* to a 6*+ doesn't really seem worth it IMO.
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Oh and I just pulled 9/44 Orlandeau's Cloak Lambent Hat x2 Healing Staff x2 (dupe) Venetian Shield x2 Kaiser Shield (dupe) Mythril Gun Didn't get the OSB, but at this point I have so much holy damage its ridiculous. Agrias' imperil holy + Hope OSB, Cid + Ramza + Minfilia BSB's = holy poo poo. Also proshellga for Ovelia is nice and I should be able to do the CM for once.
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Schwartzcough posted:You might also think about the future- maybe you don't need two +holy swords NOW, but you might pull some great SBs later for a holy team. Having two +holy swords that are basically as strong as synergy 5* swords that you can use in any realm guarantees you could do awesome damage with a holy team. Honestly, the little bit of additional ATK you get from taking a 6* to a 6*+ doesn't really seem worth it IMO. I did forget about the +holy on the sword. Probably best to keep them split. I can personally attest to holy teams being basically the bestest.
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1st AD posted:Really useful for tough bosses that do unfair amounts of AoE attacks, especially gravity ones. Ah yeah, I didn't even think about multiplayer, that could definitely get gross. I might take it for a spin in this torment dungeon, see if I can finally get past it somehow. I just keep running out of gas right at the end when he goes batshit and starts spamming really painful AoE nonstop, but I think then my issue is more staying alive than not dealing enough damage.
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Man TGCid's record sphere really sucks. +6% Knight, +3% Sword and.. Equip Axes  Probably just to balance out his absurd stats and ability access from the get-go.
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Hrm, I have no synergy weapons here outside of the healing staff and a poison rod, but I have a kaiser shield and the Ramza boulder toss relics. I feel like I might want to pull here, but on the other hand I'll get something like another staff or a shield and go 1/11 to boot 
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Servaetes posted:Hrm, I have no synergy weapons here outside of the healing staff and a poison rod, but I have a kaiser shield and the Ramza boulder toss relics. I feel like I might want to pull here, but on the other hand I'll get something like another staff or a shield and go 1/11 to boot I mean, that risk is on every banner. In reality, this banner is kind of overblown for folks who are longtime players who chased the plat sword hard the first time around - the more Tactics synergy you have, the less appealing picking up depth here is. If all you've got is a pair of white/black Mage sticks, this banner is stacked with huge wins for you. (And the shields both own for different reasons. The only real dud is the Ovelia Robe.)
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Attestant posted:
I got this same pull except twice and one of them cost me $30.
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Just be me and 100 gem pull Agrias BSB on OSBFest + TGCid OSB 
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What do people usually do when they decide to level up a new character? If you're low on eggs, it's just a matter of dragging them through sunday dungeons? Feeling a lot less irritated about my pulls today. Lesson learned, think I'm going to sleep on it before I take a second pull at a banner in the future. Might as well play with mustadio a bit, if I can get him up to speed.
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way to go steve posted:What do people usually do when they decide to level up a new character? If you're low on eggs, it's just a matter of dragging them through sunday dungeons? Pretty much this. Sunday dungeon with the smallest group you can manage. Usually 2 characters. One black mage to aoe everything and then the character you want to level with an experience boosting RM.
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way to go steve posted:What do people usually do when they decide to level up a new character? If you're low on eggs, it's just a matter of dragging them through sunday dungeons? I just put anyone who ever gets a soul break on the EXP train, prioritizing better soul break tiers. Which means I'll have them run sundaily and other exp events until they're capped at 80. One character finishes, next one takes that slot. Eggs are for when I want something levelled now, like a lowbie I need for a Cid's mission, or someone low level getting a very good soul break.
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Mithross posted:blahblahblah Gacha loves me blahblahblah I'm so lucky blahblahblah Yeah I'm a dickhead with first-world problems. Sorry Schwartzcough posted:You might also think about the future- maybe you don't need two +holy swords NOW, but you might pull some great SBs later for a holy team. Having two +holy swords that are basically as strong as synergy 5* swords that you can use in any realm guarantees you could do awesome damage with a holy team. Honestly, the little bit of additional ATK you get from taking a 6* to a 6*+ doesn't really seem worth it IMO. Good point, I know Pencil would like to get his hands on one of these for his BSB. He'd been one of my go-to damage dealers but now I'm finding it more difficult to slot him into the party... I still want to slap a bunch of Rosettas onto one of these swords though, because it's probably unlikely that I'll pull anything better for a while.
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Geocities Homepage King posted:Pretty much this. Sunday dungeon with the smallest group you can manage. Usually 2 characters. One black mage to aoe everything and then the character you want to level with an experience boosting RM. Is there not much worry about the lowbie getting sniped doing this? Just a matter of reloading I guess. Don't really have any aoes, I'll try to figure something out. And I'm assuming the highest stamina runs are most efficient? I'd really only get a couple shots at it then.
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way to go steve posted:Is there not much worry about the lowbie getting sniped doing this? Just a matter of reloading I guess. Don't really have any aoes, I'll try to figure something out. If your lowbie dies just close the app immediately and restart it. You won't lose stamina that way.
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way to go steve posted:Is there not much worry about the lowbie getting sniped doing this? Just a matter of reloading I guess. Don't really have any aoes, I'll try to figure something out. Not sure how strong your strongest characters are, but Snowball Flurry and Lightning are both only two star AOE spells that can pack a real punch if you have a powerful mage.
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