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Oh, God. I like Randy Wyatt, but that'd be a really bad Mania setup.
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Venomous posted:Oh, God. I like Randy Wyatt, but that'd be a really bad Mania setup. if it leads to Bray Wyatt winning and then actually winning title matches against Cena, AJ, and Ambrose, it'd be worth the price
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My interest in seeing Randy Orton win a rumble or indeed another belt at all is 0.
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Randy Orton can sometimes have good matches when he's with someone a lot better than him (Daniel Bryan), but if he's got to lead its going to be boring and slow and terrible. Bray Wyatt on the other hand loving sucks and his gimmick got tired about 2 years ago. Both have that plodding WWE style. That will definitely be my bathroom break / cook food match during wrestlemania
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I love Bray Wyatt and look forward to him having a run w the belt this year.
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From what I've seen from Orton building his feuds with Lesnar and Wyatt, I don't have any confidence in him being able to build a big enough feud to scream Wrestlemania main event. That being said, I believe the odds are still being influenced by outside factors, for example, Meltzer's input on who will probably win based on information he has. The smart money isn't in yet, so I wouldn't think Orton is actually winning.
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:Randy Orton can sometimes have good matches when he's with someone a lot better than him (Daniel Bryan), but if he's got to lead its going to be boring and slow and terrible. Bray Wyatt on the other hand loving sucks and his gimmick got tired about 2 years ago. Both have that plodding WWE style. That will definitely be my bathroom break / cook food match during wrestlemania But what about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNKH_95QaE
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Randy Orton is cool and good.
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Bray/Randy is a match they're clearly setting up for but it doesn't need a belt or the Rumble at all
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A year where someone wins the rumble as a genuine surprise with little build would be cool, but I think if you do that, you want to have it won by a baby face to have the crowd get behind them in the lead up to WM. Not some dude who's had 50 chances at being a main event guy who's in his first somewhat interesting angle in years like Randy Orton.
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CubsWoo posted:Bray/Randy is a match they're clearly setting up for but it doesn't need a belt or the Rumble at all bray wyatt has looked like a joke for a few years now, and i think having his feud feature the belt and the rumble winner makes it clear this guy is now a Serious Wrestler instead of a Fat Loser and that would help him a lot if it's what happens
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Aye Doc posted:bray wyatt has looked like a joke for a few years now, and i think having his feud feature the belt and the rumble winner makes it clear this guy is now a Serious Wrestler instead of a Fat Loser and that would help him a lot if it's what happens He IS a fat loser, and the downside of him having a belt is that you'll have to hear his lovely promos more often. Bray Wyatt makes me actively embarrassed whenever I see him on screen.
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SpiritOfSanDimas posted:He IS a fat loser, and the downside of him having a belt is that you'll have to hear his lovely promos more often. Bray Wyatt makes me actively embarrassed whenever I see him on screen. i'd rather hear a bray wyatt promo than have to hear cena use his angry black guy voice in a promo about how disrespectful the new era millenials like 37 yr old AJ Styles are
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Aye Doc posted:bray wyatt has looked like a joke for a few years now, and i think having his feud feature the belt and the rumble winner makes it clear this guy is now a Serious Wrestler instead of a Fat Loser and that would help him a lot if it's what happens Bray's ship sailed about 5 seconds after Taker pinned him clean at Mania after Bray did two months of build for that match all by himself all for the reward of getting Streakless Taker in the daylight for 15 minutes, but at least we got the marginally interesting crab walk/zombie sit-up spot. Giving him the belt (especially if it comes in the Chamber) isn't going to change anyone's perception of Bray.
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Vaguido posted:From what I've seen from Orton building his feuds with Lesnar and Wyatt, I don't have any confidence in him being able to build a big enough feud to scream Wrestlemania main event. Bray should put Randy through a complete re-enactment of Alice in Wonderland on the other hand, maybe if we all talk about how Orton is definitely winning, Vince will flip out and give it to someone else. Like he did with Jericho and (you want) Sheamus
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this is really early money and i sincerely doubt it but also randy v. bray for the belt has decent potential, or at least much more than reigns/HHH did. they have both been really good lately and randy seems much more into it than he was before his injury
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Whenever I think about how they could have hosed up the Taker gimmick I think about Bray. Nearly four years on the main roster, no character development, no truly strong sustained booking, loses nearly every match of major significance and has been clowned at three consecutive Wrestlemanias. I think the only thing that has kept him employed is the fact that his entrance is still over. Make him the unstoppable monster/psychopath he should have been for a solid 6-9 months (and don't blow it like they did with Rusev) and then come back to the idea of putting the belt on him.
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CubsWoo posted:Bray's ship sailed about 5 seconds after Taker pinned him clean at Mania after Bray did two months of build for that match all by himself all for the reward of getting Streakless Taker in the daylight for 15 minutes, but at least we got the marginally interesting crab walk/zombie sit-up spot. Giving him the belt (especially if it comes in the Chamber) isn't going to change anyone's perception of Bray. Bray aint dead. The royal rumble where Triple H turned into him and the crowd popped for the face off was the first legit reaction to that in years. Never forget when they did that spit with Cena and Orton to zero reaction.
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Lid posted:Bray aint dead. The royal rumble where Triple H turned into him and the crowd popped for the face off was the first legit reaction to that in years. Never forget when they did that spit with Cena and Orton to zero reaction. that was a cool as gently caress moment. if only they put him on Raw he could "ruin" the show by loving with steph and haitch. it'd be the only thing to make them bearable onscreen.
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oldskool posted:AJ/Wyatt has no build whatsoever, Cena/Wyatt involves turning the run that ties Cena with Flair at 16 into a transitional reign, and at the end of the day....what's Orton's master plan? "I invaded your family, broke them apart & in the process brought you the only success you've ever had, the tag team and WWE titles....and now I'm taking them away!"? Congratulations Randy, you turned an incompetent swamp wizard into the Face of Fear That Runs The Place. That'll teach him. Still makes more sense than his WM 25 master plan "Win the Royal Rumble (by eliminating HHH) so I can take everything from you, HHH (assuming you win the title in February)."
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Lid posted:Bray aint dead. The royal rumble where Triple H turned into him and the crowd popped for the face off was the first legit reaction to that in years. Never forget when they did that spit with Cena and Orton to zero reaction. And instead of doing that they let the Rock stand tall 1 on 3 and then beat Rowan in under 10 seconds before bringing out Cena to pee pee doo doo all over the Family because Bray is not meant to be taken as a serious threat to anyone above the level of Dolph Ziggler
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CubsWoo posted:And instead of doing that they let the Rock stand tall 1 on 3 and then beat Rowan in under 10 seconds before bringing out Cena to pee pee doo doo all over the Family because Bray is not meant to be taken as a serious threat to anyone above the level of Dolph Ziggler thankfully he's about to get a sweet rumble -> mania story and end up with the belt at EC and then everyone will realize oh yeah bray wyatt is a serious threat now Aye Doc fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jan 27, 2017 |
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Honestly as weak as Bray Wyatt has looked at times he's still like the only heel credible enough to have a first-time title run on Smackdown.
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wyatt family needs to be less like a generic stable of idiotmen and more like the NWO if you're going to be a cult leader why wouldn't you constantly be loving poo poo up with your army. IMO introducing Sanity as its own thing instead of another wyatt subsector of bearded crazies was a huge mistake. creating a stable of like 6 or 7 legit terrifying nutcases would have been great.
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MinibarMatchman posted:that was a cool as gently caress moment. if only they put him on Raw he could "ruin" the show by loving with steph and haitch. it'd be the only thing to make them bearable onscreen. Bray as the 'defy authority' babyface would be loving awesome. His one night of it last year ruled.
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MinibarMatchman posted:wyatt family needs to be less like a generic stable of idiotmen and more like the NWO if you're going to be a cult leader why wouldn't you constantly be loving poo poo up with your army. The Shield was booked the exact way the Wyatts should have been
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https://twitter.com/holy_wrestling/status/825101558908059652 i didnt really like zack sabre jr in the cwc but this is still kinda interesting
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They are really gonna fase out A.J Styles? This company is loving dumb.
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shiksa posted:https://twitter.com/holy_wrestling/status/825101558908059652 It's literally every one. You can see Perkins and Gallagher there. Also Ellsworth, but yeah, you know he's in.
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zack sabre jr isnt under contract though who said theyre phasing out aj
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I really hope Smackdown just keeps plowing forward with the whole "we know you're expecting Randy to turn but he's not going to because that's boring" thing for like a whole year.
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Super No Vacancy posted:zack sabre jr isnt under contract though yeah, that's the weird part to me, if it was just "hey heres all the guys anyone can show up it's the rumblleeeeee!" and said, like, tj perkins it'd be one thing but sabre doesn't (officially) work for WWE
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zack sabre is a pure and noble boy and he would not sell out to the nazis
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If Cena wins I loving hope he wins dirty
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I can't believe they've given AJ Styles, the Champ That Runs the Camp, the proverbial boot. Sad!
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Grozz Nuy posted:They probably made those graphics before Zack turned down their contract offer and just forgot to fix it, if I had to guess
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Still waiting on the smart money, but Orton has emerged as the new favorite on 5Dimescode:
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