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Blazing Ownager posted:Ramin Djawadi is seriously on track to become one of the best TV & Film musicians working today. He's easily in the top 3 if not #1 for TV, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him branch out onto some high profile film projects soon. Interesting...thanks for pointing that out. When I first heard the West World opening theme I thought sounded a little too Game of Thronesy, but as I got more familiar with it I found it to be very very nice. I had no idea it was the same guy. Initially I had thought they had deliberately set out to make a GOT like intro song which kind of bummed me...but it has turned out to be better than that. The GOT music is pretty straight forward and robust which I think fits what they are after with that show. I'm still getting acquainted with the West World music so I can't speak to specifics but what I find really appealing is how flexible the pieces are while still maintaining a contiguous feel. There's a lot of emotion, mystery and weirdness expressed in the West World Music. Yesterday I was really hung up on the Sweetwater song. It's fantastic and really contributes a great deal to creating the West World space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X35voOs4rQA edit: I feel like I still haven't explored the music enough to recognize individual recurrent themes but I'm pretty sure they are there.
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Extremely prolific orchestral guys like him and Giacchino worry me but then poo poo like Westworld and Dr. Who happens and I'm like drat maybe they're alright
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Jan 9, 2017 22:05
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Tatsuta Age posted:I mastered in Cartoon Feline studies, and I think you'll find It's not that difficult to connect dots.
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Jan 9, 2017 23:38
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I really really like certain tracks from mister djawadi (this world) but then really hate some other ones (MIB). Rewatching got also has made me dislike his got music even more over time except for a few songs and i've always been kinda lukewarm about the got theme song for some reason
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Jan 10, 2017 01:02
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He also did the music for Warcraft lol
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Jan 10, 2017 01:05
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lol i looked it up and djawadi worked on system shock 2 and thief 2 soundtracks: that's some old school
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Jan 10, 2017 01:11
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Imagine being some wonky music major toiling away in obscurity for peanuts while him and Giacchino score a few videogames and now they're doing poo poo like Star Wars movies hahaha Edit: Apparently Giacchino is both people in that scenario.
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Jan 10, 2017 01:17
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Ramin Djawadi and Bear McCreary are both standout composers. Between the 2 of them they've scored most of my favourite TV shows.
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Jan 10, 2017 01:37
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I dunnol. Djawadi comes up with a handful of good tunes, but then he uses them over and over and over again. Each individual one is great, and whenever a new one turns up it's fantastic, but there's a lot of... well, the musical equivalent of filler, to my ears. Certainly on Game Of Thrones.
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Jan 10, 2017 06:07
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There's a lot of the TV show equivalent of filler in Game of Thrones, too.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:17
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At least they're better than Bear McCreary.
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Jan 10, 2017 07:26
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Phobophilia posted:lol i looked it up and djawadi worked on system shock 2 and thief 2 soundtracks: that's some old school Holy poo poo, that's kind of awesome. System Shock 2 has one hell of a kickin' soundtrack. I didn't even know that.
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I'd like to mention Cold Prey because Ingrid Bolsų Berdal is fantastic, and she's in full Armistice mode in the second one. You have to read subtitles if you want more Ingrid, but outside of that they're pretty much Friday the 13th movies by another name.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I'm more surprised they thought having Felix and Sylvester be in all those scenes together when they're both cat names was a good idea. It's like they gave them temporary names and never changed them. I'm choosing to believe that this is actually a hint. A big part of me thinks that this is just a new game with a new kind of maze and Maeve has become the new rat. Maybe the Delores never actually "woke" up so she's not the best candidate for actually getting to what Arnold was originally looking for. Felix and Sylvester's actions never -really- bothered me, but Felix does seem TOO eager, and I don't think that either of them are other hosts, but I feel like they've got too much of a good-cop, bad-cop relationship going on to be a coincidence and after Bernard/Arnold said that you could see what the results were from the next steps of Maeve's new "escape" narrative Felix looked pretty suspicious / preoccupied with something in relation to it.
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Jan 17, 2017 20:31
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Imagine being some wonky music major toiling away in obscurity for peanuts while him and Giacchino score a few videogames and now they're doing poo poo like Star Wars movies hahaha Dr. Strange is a better example. The Rogue One soundtrack was pretty "meh", although I understand that's because he had about 3 weeks to do the whole thing. Jems posted:I'm choosing to believe that this is actually a hint. A big part of me thinks that this is just a new game with a new kind of maze and Maeve has become the new rat. Maybe the Delores never actually "woke" up so she's not the best candidate for actually getting to what Arnold was originally looking for. Felix and Sylvester's actions never -really- bothered me, but Felix does seem TOO eager, and I don't think that either of them are other hosts, but I feel like they've got too much of a good-cop, bad-cop relationship going on to be a coincidence and after Bernard/Arnold said that you could see what the results were from the next steps of Maeve's new "escape" narrative Felix looked pretty suspicious / preoccupied with something in relation to it. I wonder if the bird's name was Tweety.
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Just started watching this, only two episodes in, but I love it. I'm going back to beginning of the thread after this, so as to avoid spoilers, but I must say that the acting and writing in this show are excellent so far. Hope it goes somewhere. I don't watch much TV, so when I get into something like this, I like to read both the Goon opinions and Alan Sepinwall's reviews after each episode. However, his first two reviews seem really half assed, liked he was barely watching. He didn't get the fly thing at the end of the first episode, and that was the least subtle thing in the episode by far.
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Squashy Nipples posted:Just started watching this, only two episodes in, but I love it. I'm going back to beginning of the thread after this, so as to avoid spoilers, but I must say that the acting and writing in this show are excellent so far. Hope it goes somewhere.
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Squashy Nipples posted:Just started watching this, only two episodes in, but I love it. I'm going back to beginning of the thread after this, so as to avoid spoilers, but I must say that the acting and writing in this show are excellent so far. Hope it goes somewhere. Sepinwall was required reading for me during Mad Men, earlier seasons of GoT, and Breaking Bad. Lately he seems almost checked out -- not the usual level of analysis and thought. Particularly noticeable for Westworld and The OA, which he hated.
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NoDamage posted:Honestly I would suggest not reading anything at all until you finish the season. The later episodes will pack more punch if you aren't reading speculation the entire time (like most of us did, probably to our detriment). Yeah I'd second this. I re-watched the series with my sister who didn't read anything online and she was blown away by the big reveal in the finale, which was something I had spoiled for me by people who predicted it in episode two.
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Jan 21, 2017 14:04
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It's the double edged sword of good foreshadowing.
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Caufman posted:I thought it was sloppy that a lot of the songs from the show stole their melodies note-for-note from some famous contemporary hits! Dude what, listening to a western paint it black during the saloon shootout/safe robbery was sweet!
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Jan 22, 2017 23:00
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Djawadi scored person of interest too which is pretty good IMO.
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Jan 23, 2017 00:41
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Jesus Christ the end of this show is excruciatingly slow.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Dr. Strange is a better example. RLM said it best when they called it on having the new Star Trek theme. I was glad they said something because I thought that nearly the entire movie. Donnerberg posted:I'd like to mention Cold Prey because Ingrid Bolsų Berdal is fantastic, and she's in full Armistice mode in the second one. She managed to sell almost entirely through acting, while bare rear end naked, that this 100 pound blond girl could rip out your spine and murder your co-worker with it. That's drat impressive, usually it feels totally hollow. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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Trabandiumium posted:Djawadi scored person of interest too which is pretty good IMO. The last two seasons maybe. The first three were the TV equivalent of elevator music.
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Jan 23, 2017 09:04
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Dr. Strange's music was really good
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Dr. Strange's music was really good actually it was trash
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Blazing Ownager posted:She managed to sell almost entirely through acting, while bare rear end naked, that this 100 pound blond girl could rip out your spine and murder your co-worker with it. That's drat impressive, usually it feels totally hollow. Yep, reminded me of the T-1000.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:actually it was trash Eat my rear end
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Blazing Ownager posted:Ramin Djawadi is seriously on track to become one of the best TV & Film musicians working today. He's easily in the top 3 if not #1 for TV, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him branch out onto some high profile film projects soon. He worked on the first Iron Man, Pacific Rim among other stuff, he has been doing film work for years. I think Bear McCreary and him are probably the best composers working in TV. My caveat about Bear is that a lot of his recent work is not great. His Battlestar Galactica stuff is incredible for operatic scores and themes that are built on and developed. An example is his Roslin and Adama themes that play out throughout the show. They develop amazingly. His theme for The Sarah Connor Chronicles was the single best thing about that show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX8PPaoYwLk As for Ramin Djawadi, this to me is a fantastic example of the music underscoring a scenes themes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AViJIXo5Kbg It's called Two Swords and it's from the beginning of season 4 of Game Of Thrones. Every house in the show has it's own theme and instruments. In this scene it starts with the Stark theme played on their heavy string and then gradually turns into the Lannister theme on the same strings (Their theme being a song about dominating those that defy them.) The scene itself is the Starks family sword being melted and turned into 2 Lannister swords. It's simple enough, but amazing and effective. It builds on the musical language that he has created throughout the show. Both of these guys construct musical themes for characters, places and emotional themes and then do amazing things with that. It's a method hundreds of years old, but these guys turn what TV soundtracks used to be, which is 4 or 5 different tracks played in the background to legitimate works of art themselves that are as great as any movie soundtrack. These guys are up there with John Williams and Howard Shore as far as I am concerned.
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Lonos Oboe posted:
Poor Jeff Beal. So good, so unknown. He did the music to Rome, Carnivale, Ugly Betty, and does the music for House Of Cards these days. He's far less prolific than the other two, though.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Poor Jeff Beal. So good, so unknown. I've made a huge mistake. You are totally right. One thing he does very well is that all his stuff sounds kinda the same. And I mean that in the sense of him having a signature style, like Thomas Newman Listen to the Rome main theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbd0oIJcOxA and the Carnivale Main theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Supfg6G0Y Sound similar, right? Then check out the the House of Cards main theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zREOQuaqSVk and the theme from the doc Blackfish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PAtaUOn_Jc (about 2:00 in it really kicks in.) You can tell they are all by the same dude. He loves his echoey haunting music. He is a fantastic composer and I think the House Of Cards theme is one of the most effective for conveying the theme of the show. I am not judging him for having that particular sound. In fact, working as a small time director. I would put a lot of value in someone who is very consistent in their musical style. But you have to admit, it's an interesting thing to examine. (If you are a turbo-nerd like me.) To round it off, I gotta say when he hits it, he knocks it out of the park (Episode 1 Carnivale Spoilers)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr_94K0wsIA&t=115s
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Okay, I guess all the plot holes and bad writing (Maeve's whole arc) have been discussed at length, but did Theresa's death annoy anyone else in that she offered absolutely no resistance at all? Like, okay, you probably couldn't fight Bernard but Ford is a weak-rear end old man, gouge his loving eyes out or SOMETHING, ANYTHING other than just admitting defeat.
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Subyng posted:Okay, I guess all the plot holes and bad writing (Maeve's whole arc) have been discussed at length, but did Theresa's death annoy anyone else in that she offered absolutely no resistance at all? Like, okay, you probably couldn't fight Bernard but Ford is a weak-rear end old man, gouge his loving eyes out or SOMETHING, ANYTHING other than just admitting defeat. I really doubt she had any chance of doing that going by how fast Teddy grabbed the MiB's knife as he pulled it on Ford.
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She was also being dead-eyed murdered by a guy she thought was not only a human being, but one who she had a relationship with. That's a lot to process. She also clearly thinks there's still time to reason with him as he's going all killbot on her.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:She was also being dead-eyed murdered by a guy she thought was not only a human being, but one who she had a relationship with. That's a lot to process. She also clearly thinks there's still time to reason with him as he's going all killbot on her. This is something I would certainly be behind. It was hosed up and kind of chilling. It would be one thing if it was just a robot that looked like a person you had an intimate relationship with, that would be weird enough. But as a human you would always have that thing in the back of your mind that the affection and connection you had with this actual person (who by all accounts was a sweet and gentle guy at heart) would somehow crack through the "crush, kill destroy" programming. Anyone who has been in a relationship with someone where you woke up one day and saw a side to them you never expected to see could relate. It's really an extreme version of that and totally believable as to why her first reaction was not to run but a kind of denial. Lonos Oboe fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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Sudden realization that Ford will never be punished by what he did to Theresa, he just gets what he wants and the 'leaves' laughing all the way to hell...
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Ford feels no guilt over what he did to Theresa, because she was yet another of the flawed, evil humans who were going to destroy his noble robots in his mind. The humans were the enemy, he had picked his side years ago.
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I also got the impression that Theresa was not the first person he'd had killed, based on the casual air about the whole thing
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I suppose we don't know for sure that Ford felt no guilt for the violent actions he committed, this entire time he was plotting his suicide after all. In some way he must have felt that he deserved to die. That said, he's probably straight up a sociopath and seemed to take great delight in achieving his violent goals at the expense of others.
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