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Mirificus how many hours do you think you've spent cataloguing all the bad posts from RSI/Reddit/random internet comment threads? I fear it's become a bit of an obsession.
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Jan 28, 2017 22:10
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In honour of the Orwelian times in which we now seem to be living I would like to suggest a new thread title: Star Citizen: 2+2=5
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Jan 28, 2017 22:10
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We just got loving torchedquote:Another year, another attempt by
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Jan 28, 2017 22:11
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Thirsty Dog posted:Mirificus how many hours do you think you've spent cataloguing all the bad posts from RSI/Reddit/random internet comment threads? I fear it's become a bit of an obsession. Mirificus is actually Chris Roberts, and he will have you know he is cataloguing the good posts!
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Jan 28, 2017 22:11
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Kosumo posted:Hey Beets/Beer, could you guys probate Tophat so that we can all post "free Tophat again"? Mods? You can't let this heresy stand, can you?
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Jan 28, 2017 22:12
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Star Citizen: Chris was using alternative (game) facts.
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Jan 28, 2017 22:18
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Galarox posted:In honour of the Orwelian times in which we now seem to be living I would like to suggest a new thread title: Oh, go and tell the king that the sky is falling in When it's not When it's not When it's not Maybe not Maybe not
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Jan 28, 2017 22:24
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Galarox posted:In honour of the Orwelian times in which we now seem to be living I would like to suggest a new thread title: Star Citizen 2+2=1
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Jan 28, 2017 22:29
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tooterfish posted:I think this is giving CIG far too much credit tbh. Star Citizen is somehow less than the sum of its parts. But don't worry, Ben Lesnick is investigating where the other 3 got to.
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Jan 28, 2017 22:36
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tooterfish posted:I think this is giving CIG far too much credit tbh. Star Citizen is somehow less than the sum of its parts. much better  e:but the point is the reference to 1984, so 2+2=5 is also good... IMO
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Jan 28, 2017 22:42
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TrustmeImLegit posted:We just got loving torched I was watching tv when suddenly I felt searing pain, that must have been it.
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Jan 28, 2017 22:44
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TrustmeImLegit posted:We just got loving torched Give me the SadArseclowns gangtag.
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Jan 28, 2017 22:46
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tooterfish posted:I think this is giving CIG far too much credit tbh. Star Citizen is somehow less than the sum of its parts. Star Citizen: 2+2=2.6.1
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Jan 28, 2017 22:49
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Thirsty Dog posted:So I regularly listen to the Crate & Crowbar podcast (UK games journo types) and one of the main hosts, Chris Thursten, is an absolute space fanboy. Any space game, he'll play it to death. Yeah I listen to that one some times and now fast forward if he talks about SC. The dude isn't a shill, but his actual experience of SC is "play for 30 minutes, stuff is buggy but it seems like progress is being made!" Then get the PR emails and trust them, because he's a hopelessly nice person that can't believe someone would be running this more as a con than as game development. I've written about this before, the problem with Star Citizen and garme jurnalizm isn't that the journalists are bought out by publishers or that the system is corrupt. The problem is that anyone in the games industry, making them or criticizing them, is in it because they love video games. The money and many other things about the work are poo poo. So the majority of people in the industry are nice people who are enthusiastic about the subject, meaning that they naturally have friendly relationships. Some people on the journalism side can slide into being developer/industry advocates more than consumer advocates. I'm ok with RPS but I think they fall into that zone a lot, particularly as an indie-focused site. Indie devs are mostly good people, it sucks to be mean to them. But being a pollyanna about a game that's taken a hundred million in advance is not cool. (This is also why I had a problem with the famous RPS Peter Molyneux interview. Where was the hard-hitting coverage back when it mattered? The emotional tone of that interview is someone who's been betrayed by their idol. Burn your idols when you start your journalism career.)
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Jan 28, 2017 22:49
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TrustmeImLegit posted:We just got loving torched 
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Jan 28, 2017 22:56
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BitBasher posted:Is that the way it actually looks? the camera view is steady but the helmet (and radar) bobs up and down as someone moves? That looks totally wrong. A helmet doesn't bounce up and down on my head with my footsteps while my eyes stay in the same place. WTF? Yes, I think everything used to bob together, but when they added "vision stabilization" (i.e. removing headbob) they didn't extend that change to the helmet UIs. It looks incredibly stupid.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:03
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Galarox posted:In honour of the Orwelian times in which we now seem to be living I would like to suggest a new thread title: I propose a small change to make that represent Shitizen thinking even better: Star Citizen: 2+2=Orange
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Jan 28, 2017 23:03
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Star Citizen: 2+2 = Firetruck
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Jan 28, 2017 23:09
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ManofManyAliases posted:*Mass* departures. If a person or two left, I'd like to know how that equates to "mass." AFAIK, you're the only one who used the word "mass". Cite your sources!  TheAgent posted:yeah, I will say I don't know specifics of who left but that it was more than just "one or two" people lol Yeah, some of us already know, and confirmed it. Just ignore him. https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/825364288948862976 TheAgent posted:also what exactly is ground breaking about this project It's hilarious, when you consider that even I have done all of this long before now. D_Smart fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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Jan 28, 2017 23:10
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Xaerael posted:OK, this is my prediction: Too predictable. Mine is that an 'accidental' fire will happen at the Edit: No, wait. Chris will 'accidentally' get a ransom virus that asks for 300 bitcoins, and he starts a pledge to get whales to pay more money.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:10
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boviscopophobic posted:Yes, I think everything used to bob together, but when they added "vision stabilization" (i.e. removing headbob) they didn't extend that change to the helmet UIs. It looks incredibly stupid. This is loving insanity.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:11
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Thirsty Dog posted:So I regularly listen to the Crate & Crowbar podcast (UK games journo types) and one of the main hosts, Chris Thursten, is an absolute space fanboy. Any space game, he'll play it to death. Yea, that annoyed me too. Someone needs to send in a really long email to them. I don't think he's indoctrinated, just poorly informed. He might just watch a trailer every now and then without paying attention to anything else. I don't think he's even played the alpha post Star Marine.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:12
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Samizdata posted:I am posting from THE FUTURE! Had to roll back time to mention Fractured Space was free for a limited time prerelease. Not the same thing as what I'm arguing with MoMa about. A lot of games on Steam have a promo period whether is free play, free play weekend etc.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:17
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Megabound posted:Yea, that annoyed me too. Someone needs to send in a really long email to them. I don't think he's indoctrinated, just poorly informed. He might just watch a trailer every now and then without paying attention to anything else. I don't think he's even played the alpha post Star Marine. I brought it up on their Discord a while back, when Chris was super keen the previous time. Chris didn't engage at all. I'm not a huge fan of what the podcast has turned into these days anyway so it's more effort than I'm willing to expend, I just found it notable that there was a complete lack of critical thinking.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:21
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It's always at the lowest position on my podcast list. I felt really bad a couple of episodes ago when Pip started crying while Chris and Tom continued to poke fun at her.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:23
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D_Smart posted:
The wikipedia page for the game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect:_Andromeda
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Jan 28, 2017 23:42
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Kosumo posted:I propose a small change to make that represent Shitizen thinking even better: Thoatse posted:Star Citizen: 2+2 = Firetruck I vote Firetruck, since firetrucks are orange.
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Jan 29, 2017 00:05
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D_Smart posted:Not the same thing as what I'm arguing with MoMa about. A lot of games on Steam have a promo period whether is free play, free play weekend etc. But then you keep it? That is how I got it. EDIT: All the SC talk got me in a space game mood. So, when they had a try it and keep it deal, I tried it and kept it. Samizdata fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Jan 29, 2017 |
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Jan 29, 2017 00:09
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Chunjee posted:Star Citizen: 2+2=2.6.1 Wrong it's Star Citizen: 2 + 2 < 3.0
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Jan 29, 2017 00:32
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EXPECTED RESULT Ship should not explode when picking up item drop. i choudet even be possible to go in to the outher teams base I remain inside the ship and can walk around without any problems The suit had to switch to another suit Re-spawn no CTD Pre-match kills should not be counting towards the actual match score. Should Spawn back with the rest of your team. that i can run at the door without To be able to select a server and play. fixing blackness you see when running at a door i expect to be able to bind any key to my mouse and for my mouse to be recognised, its a Logitech G3 lazer mouse so not really a complicated one Game mode should change only the amount of times that it has been clicked. You should sit in the seat For Mobiglas to function The ship should remain stationary after one leaves the pilot seat. Game shouldn't cause system failure like this. Very bad for hardware. I did not thought, that I could select the cutlass specific weapon or that it would glitch inside the ship Camera stays stable. Starting launcher for login, be able to login. Correct rendering of buttons. I pay for redeemer and I want the redeemer I don't want the vanguard hoplite When inviting a player from your contact list that is confirmed to be online, they should receive the invite. Good animations in the combat signs. Can safely enter the Caterpillar. Ship should remain stationary while outside on EVA should not explode ACTUAL RESULT Death EXPECTED RESULT Use the ladder and EVA normally 
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Shame people in this thread run off content posters with concern trolling. Wish that guy who transcribed the European star citizen boards was still around considering the rumours of Germany financing the majority of this train wreck. 
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Jan 29, 2017 00:52
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Peter Molyneux posted:I literally work sixteen hours a day. I literally work sixteen hours a day. I don’t do that just to lie to people, I do it because I believe I’m doing. I totally believe in what I’m trying to make. Yeah, and you can rile the backers up and get them to ask for their money back and you can say, ‘Oh, you’ve broken your promises,’ but I’m still doing it. I’m still working on it. I’m still putting every ounce of my energy. I’m still not going to my son’s play because I had to work on Godus. I’m still getting shouted at by my wife because I’m not home. Do you know what time I got home last night? Two-thirty in the morning. lol this is going to be Chris at some point. 
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CptVHart posted:COMMUNITY/ISSUE COUNCIL/STAR CITIZEN ALPHA 2.6.0/ISSUE REPORT Most stuff on the Issue Council doesn't get responses, but 13 people made sure to mark this one invalid. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/..._for_awhile_now
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Jan 29, 2017 01:00
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Star Citizen - Master Troll and the Mothers of Delusion great album
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Jan 29, 2017 01:04
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spacetoaster posted:https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/825150362638094336 you know the lesnicks weren't allowed to sit together, their combined weight is quite impressive
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Jan 29, 2017 01:08
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Amarcarts posted:Despite the lack of news it's starting to feel very end-game. Nothing much happens now publicly at CIG unless there's a big sale, it means less funny content here but Citizens are slowly waking up to the fact that they were lied to about 3.0. Once the layoffs become public, which will happen, it always does, I expect someone in the gaming media to take an interest again. If they really do try and sell another capital class ship for thousands, I expect a lot of drama. Hopefully more people who haven't being following closely are going to put in for refunds and get out while they still can.
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Jan 29, 2017 01:10
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So recently TotalBiscuit made some comments about Star Citizen regarding people comparing it to No Man's Sky. Jan 26, 2017: In this broadcast, he said (verbatim): quote:"The comparisons to No Man's Sky are bullshit. Wanna know why they are bullshit? Because No Man's Sky hid everything before launch; and lied about a bunch of poo poo; and then came out and ended up being a bunch of poo poo. Aug 16, 2016: In this broadcast, he basically makes the same comparisons between No Man's Sky and Star Citizen hype; but this time specifically about the "zealous" Star Citizen fanbase and it's comparison to the NMS one. July 9th, 2015: In this broadcast, he said (verbatim): quote:"I am certainly concerned about No Man's Sky; obviously I'll give it a try, uhm, but it's extremely ambitious, and that's always a reason to doubt it. And then when you throw in the idea of procedural generation, like urrgh. I hear that word; I hear that word a lot, and whenever I hear it, I get a little bit worried because I've seen games that do the all procedural generation thing, and they're generally by no means as good as a game that has a properly designed level. Because the computer can never create a properly designed level anywhere near as well as an actual human being can. And when comes out to planets; I'm like oh well, I mean, er I dunno what's gonna be going on with that. I've definitely got my doubts; certainly. I hope it turns out good; I don't want it to fail. Meanwhile, over at the /r/StarCitizen watering hole, a bunch of the "zealous" fanbase, along with the Usual Suspects (aka Shitizens) are trying to use his statements to somehow legitimize the notion that because Star Citizen has "open" development, that means everything is fine, it's coming out etc. It's all the usual rubbish. TotalBiscuit has been clear and consistent in his musings and statements regarding Star Citizen. His recent statements are no different. His comment about NMS vs SC, especially in the recent broadcast, are restricted to the notion of people comparing the two games in terms of knowing what the game is and about; and that because NMS was a disaster, so too will Star Citizen. He is basically saying that with NMS you didn't know what you were getting, what state the game was in etc. Until it was released. Then all hell broke loose. But with Star Citizen, there is all this wealth of material, you can read them, go play the alpha right now etc. So you know - beforehand - the state that the game is in, the discussions around it, and from there you can make an informed decision about it. The key takeaway here is that, NMS hid everything about the development, failed to curb expectations etc. But how is that wrong? The game wasn't crowd-funded, it wasn't early access, and they were under no obligation to release anything about the development of their game, other the hype they were generating. In short, they operated like a standard dev studio or publisher would. Star Citizen is a $142m crowd-funded game; not to mention the amount of money from loans and investors which haven't been disclosed. Even if they don't have to explain anything to the bankers and investors, they have an obligation to the backers because that was the premise of the project and the promise made to backers. It is patently irrelevant if they are "open" (hint: they aren't) or not, in terms of full disclosure because, since day one, they've historically LIED to backers, used shady tactics to continue fleecing them for funding etc. And after five (six if you're counting) years and all this money, neither of the two games promised for a Nov 2014 delivery, are even near 15% complete.  No Man's Sky promised no such thing; and were under no obligation to be "open" about their development. However, just like Sean Murray did, Chris Roberts has been talking up and lying about a bunch of features which have now either been cut, or will never - ever - make it into the game. The Star Citizen devs are only "open" about what they want to share with backers. And most of the more critical info is either hidden or obfuscated. Go ahead, ask a backer when the much touted 3.0 patch (see my predictions here - all of which came true) is coming out; or the state of Squadron 42; or the status of the Lumberyard engine switch; or their internal projections (note the public schedule only goes to 2.6.1) for the release of both games; or why they were busy making R&D tech demos under the guise of building tech for the game engine; or why some critical info about the game, ends up in game magazines (e.g. in Germany) instead of the community etc. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Star Citizen is as open and transparent as the frosted glass in a Church. In fact, the "game" itself is so transparent, that you can't even see it; because there is no game. D_Smart fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Jan 29, 2017 |
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D_Smart posted:So recently TotalBiscuit made some comments about Star Citizen regarding people comparing it to No Man's Sky. that's a lot of words
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