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Sickening posted:Todd just lost a game because he couldn't afford to blow up a gearhulk and trample damage because he could instantly lose from 15 life next turn from the combo. This is not good gameplay for standard. Oh yeah it's awful, just it's basically as people expected
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Current SCG top 4: Jeskai Copycat, Jeskai Copycat, Jeskai Control, and 4 color Copycat
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Blue Gearhulk has seriously been Carrying games, I guess Emrakul was both replacing it as a thing to cast as well as suppressing it as it could destroy you when mindslaved
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Jan 29, 2017 23:45
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GeneX posted:Current SCG top 4: Its not like the pro tour hasn't turned the meta upside down before but yeah, saheeli combo isn't making past the ban date and anyone that tells you otherwise is a moron or invested in the deck.
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I feel like it's beatable by something like U/B hard control, but I think the metagame being combo-control vs. control vs. some spread of Gx midrange is an intolerable state of affairs for modern day wotc
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Balon posted:Having the format "solved" so quickly is what's really killed standard lately. There's always one "best" deck and one "deck that beats the best deck" and it's been like this for several rotations now. Until development catches up with good solutions to this we're in for the worst standard seasons for a year+ to come. It's funny because from a number of decks/deck evolution perspective, this last season was one of the most interesting standard seasons in a long time due to the midseason reworking and rise of Marvel.
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Jan 29, 2017 23:54
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Sigma-X posted:So cannibalize their existing pillar franchise in the hopes that it competes digitally? Yes exactly that. Clearly they have almost nothing to lose. Being in fourth place behinds some WWE CCG no one has ever heard of is do or die time.
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Jan 29, 2017 23:55
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Balon posted:PT top 8 is going to be 4+ Saheeli combo decks, the rest GB varients. Then we'll get a Cat ban and (something out of GB). GB seems like nothing but fair Magic, though. Walking Ballista is really good, but still fair.
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Jan 29, 2017 23:58
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I don't think the copycat combo is inherently broken in a vacuum, but the blue control shell with glimmer, bluehulk and strong removal is great on its own (with emrakul out of the format) and the combo is just gravy. If the combo was available in EMN standard I don't think it would have been played nearly as much as it is now.
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GeneX posted:I feel like it's beatable by something like U/B hard control, but I think the metagame being combo-control vs. control vs. some spread of Gx midrange is an intolerable state of affairs for modern day wotc Jim Davis's UB control deck he played today looked to have good options vs. Saheeli and GB decks.
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Jan 30, 2017 00:12
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GB is good and fair and all, but when it makes up 50% of the metagame NOW they'll hit something from it just to ensure it's not 100% of the meta post-catban.
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Jan 30, 2017 00:25
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What we actually need is hero's downfall and lightning strike, but wotc only just admitted that they need to shift development philosophies, so it might take a while.
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Jan 30, 2017 00:35
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I haven't been watching every match, but in the Jeskai variants the combo cards looked like a serious liability. Obviously it's doing fine given the t8, but it seems real clunky.
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i realize the cat combo is probably gonna get banned and i'm not saying that's a bad thing but people are playing Implement of Combustion to counter it and that's hilarious and I want to enjoy that while i can
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*Russell Crowe from A Beautiful Mind voice* maybe standard is always bad
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Magic was a mistake. America was a mistake. Humanity was a mistake. God was a mistake.
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Every person that has ever cast Implement of Combustion against me always thinks it can target creatures.
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Jan 30, 2017 01:00
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It appears that 23 of the top 32 for Richmond are CopyCat (11 decks) or GB/BG (12 decks). http://sales.starcitygames.com//dec..._ID=19&limit=50 3 U/B Control 2 Jeskai Control 4 Oddball aggro decks
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Jan 30, 2017 01:40
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It's pretty funny that they banned 3 cards to get out of a 2 deck format and they ended up with a 2 deck format.
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Sickening posted:http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/28/superdata-hearthstone-trumps-all-comers-in-card-market-that-will-hit-1-4-billion-in-2017/ MTGO makes less money than WWE Supercard and a yugioh phone game that's only available in Japan.
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Dont see this ever happening. There is no way that R+D, which is a fairly small amount of people who probably aren't notably good players themselves, can devise a puzzle that the best players in the world working together can't solve near instantly.
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Jan 30, 2017 02:49
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There have been many standards in recent memory where the second, third, and fourth best decks are "close enough" to the best deck that there's an interesting metagame.
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What if this format had legit hand destruction and all the other things they have decided to neglect? I think it would be better. If negate can be in every block, so too can at least loving duress.
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Sickening posted:What if this format had legit hand destruction and all the other things they have decided to neglect? I think it would be better. Hey, there's always Transgre-- oh, right BG is the "other" deck. I'm pretty excited to see whatever control deck Shota brings to the PT.
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Terrible Horse posted:Dont see this ever happening. There is no way that R+D, which is a fairly small amount of people who probably aren't notably good players themselves, can devise a puzzle that the best players in the world working together can't solve near instantly. I don't think R&D needs to devise some Machiavellian level of complexity in future sets, just include a spectrum of interesting cards of varying power levels spread evenly across the colors and include a handful of effective response mechanisms. Stop pushing storyline-related cards tot he point of absurdity or game breaking, and dial back the emphasis on x/3 super value creatures that make every game a slog. It'll take some time to shake out, but it's not impossible. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:I don't think R&D needs to devise some Machiavellian level of complexity in future sets, just include a spectrum of interesting cards of varying power levels spread evenly across the colors and include a handful of effective response mechanisms. Stop pushing storyline-related cards tot he point of absurdity or game breaking, and dial back the emphasize on x/3 super value creatures that make every game a slog. This. And powerful reprints that people give a poo poo about. And, most importantly, answers for the powerful reprints. The notion that something is Too Strong For Standard should be laughed at and derided endlessly.
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mattah posted:Meanwhile the Modern Classic looks to have had 14 different decks in the top 16 ... Yes, Modern is good e: Where's the decklists?
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Alris posted:This. And powerful reprints that people give a poo poo about. And, most importantly, answers for the powerful reprints. The notion that something is Too Strong For Standard should be laughed at and derided endlessly. i'm pretty sure Necropotence is too powerful for standard no matter what the answers might be
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Soul Glo posted:Yes, Modern is good Goldfish has them up.
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TheKingofSprings posted:http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=111279 Lmao Peace of Mind is awesome there
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Dear god I hope I can get a set of Chalices of the Void for $160-$180 this Friday before that god drat Cheerios deck wins an Open. I've been trying to build up Sun and Moon 
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Star Man posted:Dear god I hope I can get a set of Chalices of the Void for $160-$180 this Friday before that god drat Cheerios deck wins an Open. I've been trying to build up Sun and Moon They might get a reprint in MM17
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myDad posted:They might get a reprint in MM17 Whoa, let's not get our hopes up.
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Soul Glo posted:Yes, Modern is good  Wish my store would run it more often than every third week.E: Star Man posted:Dear god I hope I can get a set of Chalices of the Void for $160-$180 this Friday before that god drat Cheerios deck wins an Open. I've been trying to build up Sun and Moon I dumped 3/4 of mine over the last couple of months  I still have one more if you're worried about not getting them in time!
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Star Man posted:Dear god I hope I can get a set of Chalices of the Void for $160-$180 this Friday before that god drat Cheerios deck wins an Open. I've been trying to build up Sun and Moon It's not exactly burning down the house as a deck, is it? Cheerios, I mean.
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