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I'm 9 hours in and just opened the magic door. How am I doing, time-wise?
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Jan 30, 2017 04:44
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From what I'm reading now we've all actually been wrong about fisticuffs +dodge for the last, uh, decade? It only activates if you're 10+ levels over the enemies which means you shouldn't even care about the boost after accelerates and gear and just in general being over-leveled. So weird.
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Jan 30, 2017 06:07
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Decus posted:From what I'm reading now we've all actually been wrong about fisticuffs +dodge for the last, uh, decade? It only activates if you're 10+ levels over the enemies which means you shouldn't even care about the boost after accelerates and gear and just in general being over-leveled. So weird. Wait, what? Where did you find this? Sounds dubious.
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Jan 30, 2017 06:39
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Unmature posted:I'm 9 hours in and just opened the magic door. How am I doing, time-wise? Still in the Tutorial tier part of the game.
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Jan 30, 2017 06:43
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Is this the thread where I can ask if DQ Builders is worth my time?
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Jan 30, 2017 08:05
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Is there any way to get the Godbird in DQVIII to slow down or stop moving? I keep overshooting whatever I'm trying to land on, and have to make huge looping turns to come back around and take another try.
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Jan 30, 2017 10:14
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Dimo ArKacho posted:Is this the thread where I can ask if DQ Builders is worth my time? It's fun, first game I got a platinum for.
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Jan 30, 2017 11:17
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Is it worth using the second Sun Crown to make another Timbrel? It has become very apparent that immunity to confusion is incredibly valuable in the boss rush area and I don't know if I can get any more Skull Helms.
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Jan 30, 2017 14:55
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In the PS2 version I would have said yes, definitely, without a doubt it is worth it. The 3ds version has Morrie though who can be a mini timbrel so its probably more down to your preference.
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Jan 30, 2017 15:05
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I barely beat Dhoulmagus 2 and decided I was under leveled, so I tried out the dragon graveyard and went from 28-29 to 40-41 in like half an hour 
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Jan 30, 2017 15:06
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Where the dragon graveyard at? i just went up about five levels (from 20 to 25) just fighting nothing but metal slimes outside of the Hunting Grounds by abusing the despawn camera to get them to appear.
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Jan 30, 2017 16:06
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So what are some good skill combos to focus on at the start of the game? I've never played this game before. So far I've done: Hero: Swords, courage, using boomerangs on occasion without dumping points into it. I know people say spears are very useful against bosses, but I would rather focus on swords personally. Yangus: Axes, humanity. Jessica: Staves, sex appeal. Sound good? Should I go for one at a time or split up the points?
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Jan 30, 2017 16:11
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Hakkesshu posted:So what are some good skill combos to focus on at the start of the game? I've never played this game before. So far I've done: Here's what I do: -Hero: 8 points in Courage for Zoom, rest in Spears until Thunder Thrust, then whatever. Spears are much better than swords until the end game. -Yangus: 6 in Axes for Helm Splitter (nerfed in this version), 42 in Fisticuffs for Thin Air, rest in Axes until the second to last skill. Yangus' skills kind of get the shaft since you don't need whistle anymore and a lot of his supplemental skills aren't worth it. You can safely pass on Thin Air since his magic is so low, but I go that route anyway since he doesn't have many other great choices. -Jessica: Whips until 23(?) for Twin Dragon Lash, then Staves up to 100, then whatever. -Angelo: Bows and Staves, personally I think his entire bow tree is great, and swords aren't anything special on him. Charisma is kind of take it or leave it, if you like the status effect skills go for it but it's not really essential IMO. Red and Morrie: don't know
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Jan 30, 2017 16:18
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When do you pick up Red? I already have Morrie and I was kinda expecting her to have shown back up by now.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:07
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Raitzeno posted:When do you pick up Red? I already have Morrie and I was kinda expecting her to have shown back up by now. After you beat Pirate area.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:09
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Morrie should go with claws, Red is aparenyly broken with knives (swords), though I'll probably give mine whips for variety anyway.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:15
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Rirse posted:Where the dragon graveyard at? i just went up about five levels (from 20 to 25) just fighting nothing but metal slimes outside of the Hunting Grounds by abusing the despawn camera to get them to appear. South of the mystic spring. Smack in the middle of the desert area on the southern peninsula of the main western continent. You get metal kings in there. You can also farm liquids in the right ground floor room of trodain castle, I did that for a while
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Jan 30, 2017 18:56
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The ultimate courage skill requires swords? Probably should have checked before I maxed it out.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:25
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ROFL Octopus posted:Wait, what? Where did you find this? Sounds dubious. Can't find the link again but somebody tested it by making it so only the fisticuffs skill would contribute to evasion. No evasions occurred until after they were 10 levels higher than the enemy. Usually when you were using fisticuffs for post-game evasion you were also stacking agi and evasion gear, so it was easy to think it was contributing to that but it wasn't unless you were like level 65 for post-game.
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Jan 30, 2017 21:36
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Nihilarian posted:The ultimate courage skill requires swords? Probably should have checked before I maxed it out. No, that skill is "you can get it at max sword or max courage". The ultimate Sword skill requires max Courage, though (Max both)
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Jan 30, 2017 21:38
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Hyedum posted:Is it worth using the second Sun Crown to make another Timbrel? It has become very apparent that immunity to confusion is incredibly valuable in the boss rush area and I don't know if I can get any more Skull Helms. Make catholicon rings, timbrels are way too good to pass up
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Jan 30, 2017 22:11
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Supremezero posted:No, that skill is "you can get it at max sword or max courage".
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Jan 30, 2017 22:13
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If you max both you get gigagash which is the ultimate sword skill Oops?
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Jan 30, 2017 22:15
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The weirdest part is that it looks like it's one of those stats don't matter skills so I can just put the Stone Sword in his bag and call it good? But if you can get it without investing in swords and it doesn't care about weapons why lock it to swords in the first place? Lock Gigagash to swords, sure, but this just feels inconvenient, and for no reason.
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Jan 30, 2017 22:41
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Nihilarian posted:I maxed Courage and got Gigaslash, which is only usable when I equip a sword instead of a spear The max Courage skill is Kazap. Gigaslash is, as I said, "max whichever and you get it".
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Jan 30, 2017 23:42
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Emron posted:South of the mystic spring. Smack in the middle of the desert area on the southern peninsula of the main western continent. You get metal kings in there. Got a screenshot of the place? Being overleveled is a guilty pleasure of mine in JRPGS and I would like to hang out there at some point  Also is there any point to the Magic Shield spell Jessica has? When I fight wizards I like to use it but I *literally* cannot tell if it's doing anything to actually help and it's not like numbers are going up similar to Buff Spells.
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Jan 31, 2017 01:42
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Nihilarian posted:I maxed Courage and got Gigaslash, which is only usable when I equip a sword instead of a spear Gigaslash/gash is pretty bad anyway so besides the wasted skill points to get it it's not a huge deal anyway, I think the only super skill that's ever been good in these games was Blade of Ultimate Power. Edit: ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Got a screenshot of the place? According to the guides Magic Barrier very slightly reduces the damage spells do but reduces the chance of status spells landing by a very not inconsiderable amount. Last Celebration fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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Jan 31, 2017 01:43
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Got a screenshot of the place? No, but I can describe it. Leave from baccarat. Sail south until you can land. You'll have to go south from there into the desert area. The graveyard was in the middle of that area.
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Jan 31, 2017 02:19
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Supremezero posted:The max Courage skill is Kazap. Gigaslash is, as I said, "max whichever and you get it".
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Jan 31, 2017 02:57
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Kinda silly there's no skill respec item, even if they make it extremely limited (only one in the entire game) or needing incredibly rare alchemy items Or is there a respec thing and I just don't know
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Jan 31, 2017 03:08
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Should I stop after power throw with boomerangs? Is the hero's unique stuff worth it? Seems unexciting. Don't know where to use my points on him, might go down spears. Also I managed to kill like 5 metal slimes in a row around the river heading to the hill of hope or whatever and now I feel like I should take some time to try to farm those dudes.
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Jan 31, 2017 03:35
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Go to super throw. Courage is the best skill line in the game so invest to at least 1/2 mp cost
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Jan 31, 2017 04:10
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Maybe Im not far enough in but Im not really liking 8 as much as the 7 remake. Yangus is great and sos the king but Jessica and Angelo have like no personality compared to Maribel and Ruff and the overworld feels like its mostly featureless green hills. Also i miss the class costumes.
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Jan 31, 2017 04:33
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Emron posted:No, but I can describe it. Leave from baccarat. Sail south until you can land. You'll have to go south from there into the desert area. The graveyard was in the middle of that area. Thanks, gonna head there after I deal with Dhoulmagus Speaking of which I heard there's a way to recharge HP/MP right before his room but I'm not seeing how, what am I obviously overlooking? E: Found it. Not sure how I overlooked it. ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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Jan 31, 2017 07:18
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insanityv2 posted:Maybe Im not far enough in but Im not really liking 8 as much as the 7 remake. Yangus is great and sos the king but Jessica and Angelo have like no personality compared to Maribel and Ruff and the overworld feels like its mostly featureless green hills. Also i miss the class costumes. the drastic curtail in party talk was something i definitely felt when i played the original at release, it's a lot more transparently "here's a quick recap in case you took a break and need a reminder" there's still some flavor text in there, but not nearly as much
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Jan 31, 2017 07:22
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DQ7's party chat was good because of Maribel, mostly. DQ8 with more party chat would just make me think "shut the gently caress up, Angelo" more often or "thank you jessica, your input is totally valuable and not at all generic, you're such a great character" unless Trode actually followed you into every area and played off of Yangus more because that's the best DQ8 party chat ever gets. Morrie's new stuff is decent too.
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Jan 31, 2017 17:56
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Decus posted:DQ7's party chat was good because of Maribel, mostly. DQ8 with more party chat would just make me think "shut the gently caress up, Angelo" more often or "thank you jessica, your input is totally valuable and not at all generic, you're such a great character" unless Trode actually followed you into every area and played off of Yangus more because that's the best DQ8 party chat ever gets. Morrie's new stuff is decent too. Do like when Trode will randomly appear in the party chat when he not suppose to be following, spooking Argus.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:04
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Jessica is super generic and other than having a shitload of MP doesn't seem great in combat either. Are spells supposed to be super weak or do they get better later? She always just spams accelerate and magic barrier against bosses and everyone else does the heavy lifting.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:15
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I think Jessica is supposed to be crowd control, status effects and buff/debuffs instead of raw killing power. Also she's your fastest so maybe set her up with all the reusable items. Also, in regards to the party chat thing, I just assume the writers were all still tired from Dragon Quest VII.
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Jan 31, 2017 18:23
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Rirse posted:Do like when Trode will randomly appear in the party chat when he not suppose to be following, spooking Argus. COR BLIMEY
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Jan 31, 2017 20:59
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