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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Mukip posted:

Not sure I was realistic scale per se, but if a bunch of ships are next a planet then it's the planet that should look big.

It's a strategy game, the ships and planets are massively over-scale so you can see what's going on. What next, EU4 soldiers just look too big compared to the buildings on the map?

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Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

Baronjutter posted:

It's a strategy game, the ships and planets are massively over-scale so you can see what's going on. What next, EU4 soldiers just look too big compared to the buildings on the map?

Nah, EU4 soldiers are realistic scale. People got a lot shorter after the Napoleonic Wars.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Wiz posted:

Nah, EU4 soldiers are realistic scale.

Earth was the source of Titanic Lifeforms all along!!

Please have a super rare Sol system that's just 1600's europe with titanic life. You can invade or subdue them with a comet show.

Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jan 30, 2017

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Wiz posted:

Nah, EU4 soldiers are realistic scale. People got a lot shorter after the Napoleonic Wars.

Something that a lot of people don't know about napoleon is that he was actually average height for his time (roughly 200 ft tall)

Wiz
May 16, 2004

Nap Ghost

Baronjutter posted:

Earth was the source of Titanic Lifeforms all along!!

Please have a super rare Sol system that's just 1600's europe with titanic life. You can invade or subdue them with a comet show.

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
The frost giants, having reclaimed Midgard during Ragnarok.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

Godzilla and Mothra.

You know you want to add them now.

Tigey
Apr 6, 2015

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

Apes obviously

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

I just started playing the game, I come from an experience of playing Civilization and this game looks like a fun. What Let's Plays would you recommend for someone starting out? I've started a game on easy mode to try to understand the interface and gameplay and I'm still struggling to understand where my queue's are and how to direct my fleets to do things.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

500m tall frenchmen holding a muskets obviously. Like literal EU4 mans.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

fondue posted:

I just started playing the game, I come from an experience of playing Civilization and this game looks like a fun. What Let's Plays would you recommend for someone starting out? I've started a game on easy mode to try to understand the interface and gameplay and I'm still struggling to understand where my queue's are and how to direct my fleets to do things.

I don't know about LPs, but: to direct your fleets around, be certain you've selected them so their portrait is up, and right-click on wherever they need to go. This works on the galaxy map as well as the pretty zoomed in map: right click on stars to send 'em there, go into the system to send 'em to specific areas.

Miners and scientists have a nice drop-down menu if you right-click on a star that'll tell you if they can survey/do a research project/build stuff.

Queues are located in the spaceports, usually.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

Besides giant animals, what about rats? This talk about post-apocalyptic Earth reminds me of this movie where some poor bastards survive a lot of dumb poo poo, only to be rescued by literal ratmen in the end. (The end is incredibly, hilariously overblown with the survivors screaming like those rat people are the most horrible thing ever. Dudes, they saved you, they probably won't suddenly start nibbling on you.)

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Someone once told me, "Time is a flat circle".

fondue posted:

I just started playing the game, I come from an experience of playing Civilization and this game looks like a fun. What Let's Plays would you recommend for someone starting out? I've started a game on easy mode to try to understand the interface and gameplay and I'm still struggling to understand where my queue's are and how to direct my fleets to do things.

Skip the Let's Plays and Just Play. Play and fail. Then roll again. Best way to play Paradox games.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
i can't think of any LPs that are going to efficiently and effectively explain game mechanics to you on a game as in-depth as stellaris. most paradox games are set up such that very few people even play them alike.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?
Dinosaurs? We know the Tyrannosaurus flew F-14s so spaceships aren't a big stretch. :v:

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
man calvin and hobbes needs more references in pop culture so i'd be down as an extra chomosome for that one

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

ChrisBTY posted:

Wait, what's an ascension goal?
Is that a real in-game thing?

Because my game has reached the point where all I can really do is take some chunks out of the massive radical purifier empire every decade or so. Which isn't exactly a win-con.

Sadly they are not the sort of wincon-like end goal mission accomplished sort of thing the thread discussed, just another in place modifer for your empire, at least from how it looks so far. Although admittedly a pretty cool one

GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jan 31, 2017

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

Judging by life in America, it's the squirrels who will inherit the Earth.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


Poil posted:

Dinosaurs? We know the Tyrannosaurus flew F-14s so spaceships aren't a big stretch. :v:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Libluini posted:

Besides giant animals, what about rats? This talk about post-apocalyptic Earth reminds me of this movie where some poor bastards survive a lot of dumb poo poo, only to be rescued by literal ratmen in the end. (The end is incredibly, hilariously overblown with the survivors screaming like those rat people are the most horrible thing ever. Dudes, they saved you, they probably won't suddenly start nibbling on you.)

Did the movie ever get a name?

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Wiz posted:

Maybe a post-apocalypse alternative to cockroaches? What would be the giant animal that's taken over though?

Cephalopods.

Also, make a portrait that's just a full-on cephalopod creature, like a giant squid or something, rather than a Cthulhu-person, please.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Also yes please give us a dino earth

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Baronjutter posted:

Did the movie ever get a name?

i believe we're referencing Rats Night of Terror here

it's a 1984 flick where Chuck Norris gets eaten by rats, it kinda owns in a uniquely horrible way

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Baronjutter posted:

Did the movie ever get a name?

Coolguye posted:

i believe we're referencing Rats Night of Terror here

it's a 1984 flick where Chuck Norris gets eaten by rats, it kinda owns in a uniquely horrible way

I couldn't remember the name, but thanks to Coolguye I found the ending again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbtmGmzvIgI

:allears: Don't watch it if you don't want this great comedy movie spoiled for you!

Serf
May 5, 2011


Modding question: I wanted to beef up the vanilla buildings in the game so that things move a little faster. I made my own mod per the tutorials, and I just took the vanilla buildings text file, copied it over, and fiddled with the output values. However, now when I go to upgrade buildings, it gives me two options for the upgrade, both of which seem to have the same heightened output. Anyone know what might be causing this? It is a little irritating and odd, so I'm looking for ways to fix it.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Psychotic Weasel posted:

Godzilla and Mothra.

You know you want to add them now.

Only if they use the cute gecko and butterfly portraits.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Baronjutter posted:

Earth was the source of Titanic Lifeforms all along!!

Please have a super rare Sol system that's just 1600's europe with titanic life.

Between this idea and the new cuisine options in Banks, I am not sure I am ready for Attack on Titan in Stellaris.

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

Is there a Goonswarm empire in the EVE mod? :colbert:

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Roland Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/826004080795451392

What is it? What does it do? gently caress if I know but it looks awesome and I want one.

That's no moon.

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?
Fuuuu.

A fallen empire woke up and started throwing its weight around. I had a 100k fleet, a 20k federation fleet, about 60k in allied fleets and they had two roughly 100k fleets.

Through some clever fleet management I was able to destroy one fleet entirely and grind one down to about 20k. I have a 60k fleet left over and a pretty solid road ahead for taking about 6 systems from the ascendency.

Then the loving Unbidden decided to show up...

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
unbidden take a while to get going unless they're right next to you. finish what you're doing with that goddamn AE or you're going to lose your opportunity.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS12p0Zqlt0

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Alright, I guess this is now the time to ask.
In my game I am, excluding the still dormant(?) Fallen Empires, the largest military force in the galaxy. I am also part of the biggest federation.
Unfortunately said federation seems to all mutually agree that liberation wars is the best military policy, so I can't just rampage through the rest of the galaxy.
The consequence is; nothing is really happening. Occasionally there's a border dispute, and every decade or so I smack around the resident fanatical purifiers just to remind them who's boss. A few border lines are moved but nothing that helps my empire grow any larger than it already is.

Sooooo, now what? Is this the "This game has a dearth of mid/endgame content" problem I've heard so much about?

It's so weird that a game where all the win conditions are military that there are so many variations of pacifism.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS
Where are the mod files kept? I want to make an edited version of the Eve mod to be compatible with NSC (It has all the ship types already, so you can't use it and any other mod that supports NSC without breaking the game.) but I can't find the editable data files.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Jan 31, 2017

Dulkor
Feb 28, 2009

ChrisBTY posted:

Alright, I guess this is now the time to ask.
In my game I am, excluding the still dormant(?) Fallen Empires, the largest military force in the galaxy. I am also part of the biggest federation.
Unfortunately said federation seems to all mutually agree that liberation wars is the best military policy, so I can't just rampage through the rest of the galaxy.
The consequence is; nothing is really happening. Occasionally there's a border dispute, and every decade or so I smack around the resident fanatical purifiers just to remind them who's boss. A few border lines are moved but nothing that helps my empire grow any larger than it already is.

Sooooo, now what? Is this the "This game has a dearth of mid/endgame content" problem I've heard so much about?

It's so weird that a game where all the win conditions are military that there are so many variations of pacifism.

I'd probably start declaring liberation wars and then making vassals out of the newly formed states. You can integrate after ten years to formally add them to the empire and being a liberator is such a huge diplomacy boost they'll pretty much always agree to the vassal demand.

Honestly you're at the point where things are going to stagnate a little until an FE wakes up or a crisis triggers.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Archonex posted:

Where are the mod files kept? I want to make an edited version of the Eve mod to be compatible with NSC (It has all the ship types already, so you can't use it and any other mod that supports NSC without breaking the game.) but I can't find the editable data files.

\steamapps\workshop\content\281990\

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

ChrisBTY posted:

Alright, I guess this is now the time to ask.
In my game I am, excluding the still dormant(?) Fallen Empires, the largest military force in the galaxy. I am also part of the biggest federation.
Unfortunately said federation seems to all mutually agree that liberation wars is the best military policy, so I can't just rampage through the rest of the galaxy.
The consequence is; nothing is really happening. Occasionally there's a border dispute, and every decade or so I smack around the resident fanatical purifiers just to remind them who's boss. A few border lines are moved but nothing that helps my empire grow any larger than it already is.

Sooooo, now what? Is this the "This game has a dearth of mid/endgame content" problem I've heard so much about?

It's so weird that a game where all the win conditions are military that there are so many variations of pacifism.

if you're the dominant military force in the galaxy you have no business being in a federation. a federation is what smaller powers use to keep bigger powers from picking on them. if you're the big guy, start throwing your weight around. leave your federation and declare war on your former allies (presuming you can take all of them, you probably can if your federation is biggest in terms of number of members - that likely means that you have a number of small powers bumping around, rather than a coalition of 3 respectably large equals), and forcibly vassalize them as your war goal. give each one of them a 10 mineral/mo gift after the war to smooth over bad feelings and you will have numerous loyal vassals that you can start integrating into your larger empire, which you can then break off into a megasector and never worry about again.

this will probably swell your overall navy to the point where FEs are gonna start taking notice that you actually have your poo poo together and things will heat up again.

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jan 31, 2017

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Coolguye posted:

if you're the dominant military force in the galaxy you have no business being in a federation. a federation is what smaller powers use to keep bigger powers from picking on them. if you're the big guy, start throwing your weight around. leave your federation and declare war on your former allies (presuming you can take all of them, you probably can if your federation is biggest in terms of number of members - that likely means that you have a number of small powers bumping around, rather than a coalition of 3 respectably large equals), and forcibly vassalize them as your war goal. give each one of them a 10 mineral/mo gift after the war to smooth over bad feelings and you will have numerous loyal vassals that you can start integrating into your larger empire, which you can then break off into a megasector and never worry about again.

this will probably swell your overall navy to the point where FEs are gonna start taking notice that you actually have your poo poo together and things will heat up again.

A war against my allies would be ugly, as they surround me. And my federation probably consists of 3 of the 4 most powerful non-fallen empires on the map at this point, including myself. I thought I could just turn enough of the map into a federation that I could win that way. But that doesn't look like it is about to happen.
Maybe I will leave the federation and start by erasing the (now significantly less) massive Fanatical purifier empire I've been beating up for the last 50 years or so. I initially joined the federation back when I couldn't take them on my own. But now I can. Easily.

Thanks.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Jan 31, 2017

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
also good. the point is that if you're the military king, always be fighting. you will want/need to confront your former allies at some point though. be aware that being surrounded isn't really that big of a deal; just make sure you have multiple invasion armies on standby and some sort of FTL snare station in the places most likely to get scouted out. let someone attack you, blow them up, send 2x what they sent out to blow THEM up. if you run roughshod over their territory and blow up all their starports etc, find their capitol and bombard/invade it. that will effectively knock that power out of the war. head back home, regroup and rearm, do it all again.

i would be wary of simply taking planets from another empire, fwiw. straight conquest like that complicates relationships with all other powers in range since they're worried about being next. vassalizing the powers is much safer as you can wait out the cooldown period and then integrate them wholesale. this will utterly eliminate the problem and you can then treat the newly acquired pops however it pleases you. i tend to play individualistic powers so i frequently just hand the entire vassal area off to sector AI and take their taxes. if you are playing more communal or xenophobe you can then start purging the populations you've acquired and there's no host empire to get pissy, so you really only have to worry about xenophile FEs getting mad.

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Jan 31, 2017

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Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

ChrisBTY posted:

A war against my allies would be ugly, as they surround me. And my federation probably consists of 3 of the 4 most powerful non-fallen empires on the map at this point, including myself. I thought I could just turn enough of the map into a federation that I could win that way. But that doesn't look like it is about to happen.
Maybe I will leave the federation and start by erasing the (now significantly less) massive Fanatical purifier empire I've been beating up for the last 50 years or so. I initially joined the federation back when I couldn't take them on my own. But now I can. Easily.

Thanks.
"Liberation" is used in the American sense. Pick a random empire, "liberate" as many planets as you can under a puppet government, vassalise, repeat.

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