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How big exactly is 7? Because I always hear these horror stories about how it takes two hours to get to the first combat tutorial, and how even speed running it will take you 70 hours or so. Why was it so ambitiously big and what was people's reactions to it at the time
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Calaveron posted:How big exactly is 7? Because I always hear these horror stories about how it takes two hours to get to the first combat tutorial, and how even speed running it will take you 70 hours or so. Why was it so ambitiously big and what was people's reactions to it at the time It's loving huge. My 3DS playthrough took just about 100 hours, not including bonus dungeons.
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Jan 31, 2017 21:23
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Doesn't a game that big just lose its focus really quickly?
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Jan 31, 2017 21:32
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Calaveron posted:Doesn't a game that big just lose its focus really quickly? it's split into multiple little episodes, effectively and doesn't really switch focus to the over arching plot until like the last third of the game, i guess?
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Calaveron posted:How big exactly is 7? Because I always hear these horror stories about how it takes two hours to get to the first combat tutorial, and how even speed running it will take you 70 hours or so. Why was it so ambitiously big and what was people's reactions to it at the time As a huge DQ fan, I loved having a lot of DQ since it was the first time we got a DQ game in over 9 years. I remembered seeing pictures of DQ 5 and 6 in Nintendo Power in the mid 90s and wanting them more than anything else. But we didn't get them. The game took me 120 hours. I think the first 20 hours is perfect, and I felt like I couldn't get enough for the first time I played it. The first 20 hours had a lot of fun different stories. Most of what I remember is from those 20 hours. After that, there were parts where it dragged for a long time. It would definitely have been a better game if it was cut in half. I still think it's worth playing just for those first 20 hours. After that, you can stop if you feel like stopping. What were other people's reactions? No one played it. It was a PS1 game that looked like a SNES game competing with Grand Theft Auto 3, Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry, and Final Fantasy X that holiday season. some bust on that guy fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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Jan 31, 2017 21:41
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Calaveron posted:How big exactly is 7? Because I always hear these horror stories about how it takes two hours to get to the first combat tutorial, and how even speed running it will take you 70 hours or so. Why was it so ambitiously big and what was people's reactions to it at the time I finished at about 80 hours and then did another 20 in the postgame. The game is so long you don't unlock the core mechanic (classes) until about 15 hours in and don't have a full party of four permanent characters until around 50 hours. There are so many individual vignettes that you lose track of which is which. There is also a lot of padding - you do every location at least twice; there are a couple of dungeons you need to traverse four times, maybe more. The traveler's tablet system added to the 3DS pads the game even more by giving you mini-dungeons to run through that generally grant pretty nice rewards upon the first completion.
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DQVII is mind-bogglingly huge because it was the first time the Dragon Quest folks made a game on the Playstation, and they were delighted and overwhelmed by the sheer amount of data that can be jammed into a CD. I don't know no have a link handy anymore, but a more recent interview has someone from the team flat-out stating that they "made too much game". Also it's a bunch of loosely linked vignettes, so it's easy to have groups of people all working on their own little stories and then jamming the whole mess into a single narrative cluster gently caress. Anyway, the game does reach the 70-90 hour range pretty easily, and the remake has a bunch of quality of life adjustments and onscreen encounters and general tightening. (I beat it at around 85 hours) and then there's the post-game to consider. The script is over 260,000 words. I dont remember the fan reaction very well because I was twelve or something, but my older brother owned it. Mostly we were surprised that it was the first Dragon Warrior game (in North America) since like 1992, and I think we assumed the franchise died. Also while I like to think I'm beyond petty concerns like graphics, DQVII is, uh, not a good looking Playstation game. Especially not in comparison to all the PS1 RPGs that already came out and look better.
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Jan 31, 2017 21:53
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Game took me 116 hours and I spent the last third of it begging for it to end. DQ8 meanwhile took me 65 and now I'm happily hacking away at the postgame and have most of it(not counting the insane boss refight dungeon which I'm not doing) squared away. All I have left is the final dragovian trial and rank x of the monster arena before i put the game down for other stuff and that has me at about 73 hours.
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Jan 31, 2017 22:02
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What the best staff I can get for Jessie before I fight Dhoulmagus? Hero is at level 31 while the others are at level 29 - 30, with Angelo just getting his team heal spell just in time. So glad it easy to farm metal slime near the lizard hunting ground with the camera trick, as I went from level 20 to 30 in about a half hour.
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Jan 31, 2017 22:22
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God, I wish I'd unlocked multiheal before killing Dhoulmagus. That fight was very tense without it.
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Jan 31, 2017 22:32
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Is every boss from here on going to have a "disruptive wave of energy"? That poo poo's getting old
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Jan 31, 2017 22:40
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Pretty much yeah.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:05
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Nihilarian posted:Is every boss from here on going to have a "disruptive wave of energy"? That poo poo's getting old If you recruit Morrie and invest into his Claw tree down to "Rake 'N' Break" you can do the same thing to your foes. It only hits one enemy at a time though.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:08
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it's just kinda lame that the tension system is mostly useless against bosses until you get timbrels. i like charging up like goku before busting out a big number.
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Emron posted:God, I wish I'd unlocked multiheal before killing Dhoulmagus. That fight was very tense without it. I've never not beaten Dhoulmagus without Multiheal. More fun that way. gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's just kinda lame that the tension system is mostly useless against bosses until you get timbrels. i like charging up like goku before busting out a big number. Eh, it's useful until you get to the point where bosses regularly start using the cold air attack, and it's useful again once you can make a timbrel. So it's only like the middle third where it's useless.
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Jan 31, 2017 23:23
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's just kinda lame that the tension system is mostly useless against bosses until you get timbrels. i like charging up like goku before busting out a big number. tfw the hero no longer goes super saiyan at max tension
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Jan 31, 2017 23:43
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I beat Dhoulmagus at level 26-27 last night and that's after I grinded a bit in the hp/sp pool He was shockingly easy so here I am thinking that I was overleveled.
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ROFL Octopus posted:tfw the hero no longer goes super saiyan at max tension He never did in the Japanese version, IIRC.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I beat Dhoulmagus at level 26-27 last night and that's after I grinded a bit in the hp/sp pool Jeez if your at that level and beat him easily, then I probably won't have a problem with him at level 31. Since I know a plot event happens after Dhoulmagus, should I try to get the Monster Arena pass Rank B before I fight him? Want to try to get high so I can get Morrie.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:48
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S-rank won't unlock before you can access the Otrusk region.
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Rirse posted:Jeez if your at that level and beat him easily, then I probably won't have a problem with him at level 31. Rank B is for all intents and purposes impossible before Dhoulmagus, and conveniently gets a LOT easier with a monster you can get right after Dhoulmagus. Also said plot event doesn't prohibit you from going to the arena and you can't even challenge Rank S to get Morrie until you beat Evil Jessica anyway.
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What are the monsters I should use past rank D? I'm up to Orkutsk and have Capers, Potbelly, and Talos as my team.
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I beat Rank B with Talos, Hackzilla (north of Farebury) and Curer (north of Arcadia)
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Feb 1, 2017 01:46
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How is dragon quest 10 unable to be translated?
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Len posted:How is dragon quest 10 unable to be translated? It's an MMO. They don't think the standalones are going to sell, no way do they think an MMO will.
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Did anyone here play it? How does it compare to FXIV?
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DQIV who is the better mage? Kiryl vs Meena? Maya vs Borya?
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Emron posted:What are the monsters I should use past rank D? I'm up to Orkutsk and have Capers, Potbelly, and Talos as my team. By Orkutsk, a team of Talos, Skeledoid or Steropes for your attackers and either Curer or Octurion for your healer can (with luck) beat Rank S. I'm more comfortable with the Curer version since he's a much more reliable healer, but Octurion does help you kill the Liquid Metal Slime easier. Skeledoid/Octurion/Steropes can only be found once you beat rank B though. For D-B, try Talos, Potbelly and Curer. Caper unfortunately has too little HP to fight in Rank B, but might work if you're high level enough. Goldman/Brickman works as well, but do bring Talos. Locations: Skeledoid: Dark Ruins island, Southwest part. Steropes: Princess Minnie Castle Island, west part. Curer: Location between Arcadia and Rydon's tower. He either spawns near Arcadia or the Tower. Octurion: Beach south of Argonia. Use the boat to get there. Goldman: Around Neos, Day. Brickman: Peregrin Quay, southeast.
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Edit: wow I skipped right over the paragraph where you said that yourself
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Tired Moritz posted:DQIV Kiryl gets Multiheal and Kazing while Meena doesn't, so regardless of any other spell differences that's probably the dealbreaker. Maya vs Borya is more of a damage vs utility issue. Maya gets like eight different ways to set people on fire and can turn into a dragon. Borya has Acceleratle and Oomph and a bunch of debuffs.
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Has anyone figured out how to do Monster Arena Rank X? Because Talos, Skeledoid and Octurion got their asses beat by loving Bangerz and Mash
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What the latest you can do the casino quest? I just killed the Dhoulmagus so it unlocks soon, but I rather wait to do it until I get Red and Morrie.
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Rirse posted:What the latest you can do the casino quest? I just killed the Dhoulmagus so it unlocks soon, but I rather wait to do it until I get Red and Morrie. Waiting til you get them isn't a problem. I think the time limit's after the fight with the dog, and you can get Red and Morrie way before then. Not that it matters much. All you lose out for not doing the quest is the free tokens, I think.
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ROFL Octopus posted:Rank B is for all intents and purposes impossible before Dhoulmagus, and conveniently gets a LOT easier with a monster you can get right after Dhoulmagus. I beat Rank B before Dhoulmagus, it's not impossible, it's just sort of pointless. Rank A & B give some pretty decent weapons for Yangus and Guv but I'd say it's not really worth the trouble.
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I have been killing monsters which turns out were recruitable, did I screw up or do they respawn?
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Avalerion posted:I have been killing monsters which turns out were recruitable, did I screw up or do they respawn? They respawn infinitely. You have to kill them to recruit them once that comes up so don't sweat it.
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Tired Moritz posted:DQIV Probably the best party is main, kiryl, Alena and Ragnar.
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I'd say Ragnar is probably a worse pick than Borya who can cast Oomph/Acceleratle which you kind of want more than another dude hitting things.
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Maaaaaan I'm only allowed to have three monsters at a time?! Edit: and good to know your newest recruit doesn't automatically enter the team. Because that's a fantastic design decision Len fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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