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bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Sentient Data posted:

E: also, house usually means living even father from work and away from public transit lines, so also factor in the big transportation cost increases, and also buying more premade/fast food due to having less time after a longer commute

lol what the gently caress is this

do you honestly think you can only get a house in the country or some poo poo?

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

bradzilla posted:

lol what the gently caress is this

do you honestly think you can only get a house in the country or some poo poo?

In nice cities, yes. Unless you're rich. Houses start close to a million where I'm at.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





depends on the city

some cities are pretty much a black hole with an event horizon the length of a 1.5 hour drive when it comes to property values

zh1
Dec 21, 2010

by Smythe
if you think for one second that having a child is a good idea in 2017 then you're too bone stupid to raise a child

zh1
Dec 21, 2010

by Smythe
this was also true for the last 30 years, or more depending on how smart you expect the average person to be

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

zh1 posted:

if you think for one second that having a child is a good idea in 2017 then you're too bone stupid to raise a child

if you're the kind of person to go out looking to punch people in the street, then yeah you might be too stupid to raise a child.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Renting is great until the rent prices shoot through the roof and it costs as more than a mortgage.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Baronjutter posted:

In nice cities, yes. Unless you're rich. Houses start close to a million where I'm at.

150k gets you a 4 bedroom, yard , 2 car garage and nice neighborhood in the best City in the world.

So. Yeah, get a house.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe
Robocop has aged badly. The stuff it satirizes (as well at the act of satirizing it) is cliché, the titular character is slow and dumpy, with Weller's talents only shine through when his mask is off.

For my money? About corporations, money, and the fusion of humanity and machinery, the newer Robocop says more with one scene (that one scene) than a trilogy of earlier Robocops.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Jastiger posted:

150k gets you a 4 bedroom, yard , 2 car garage and nice neighborhood in the best City in the world.

So. Yeah, get a house.

if you live around one of those black hole cities the small parcel of land itself with no house on it can be valued at more than 3x that :shepicide:

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

Jastiger posted:

150k gets you a 4 bedroom, yard , 2 car garage and nice neighborhood in the best City in the world.

So. Yeah, get a house.

You are either delusional or you have the best agent on the planet.

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)

Jastiger posted:

150k gets you a 4 bedroom, yard , 2 car garage and nice neighborhood in the best City in the world.

So. Yeah, get a house.

Where is the "best city in the world", exactly? The bombed-out husk of Aleppo?

Olive!
Mar 16, 2015

It's not a ghost, but probably a 'living corpse'. The 'living dead' with a hell of a lot of bloodlust...

Field Mousepad posted:

You are either delusional or you have the best agent on the planet.

The former. Jastiger loves Des Moines as much as he hates the south

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


yo rear end is grass posted:

As someone who just started working again after four years, being unemployed is the absolute worst. Even though you can wake up whenever you want, you will immediately begin worrying about how you will make rent, how you will feed yourself, how you will afford gas to go and look for a job. And that's not even taking into consideration things like emergency car fixes and dental issues.
Then before you know it, it's your mother's birthday! Your dad and sister each got her a wonderful gift, and you give her a hand made card. They say they understand that you can't afford much right now, and you know they do, but you see the worry in their eyes when you leave. The next day your dad calls you and asks if you need some money. You just know that your mom spent her whole birthday night discussing your situation with her husband. Happy birthday mommy!
After applying for jobs, (online only, your car's brakes are hosed again,) you watch some YouTube videos. Then you browse your favourite dead gay forums, refreshing the pages until you are certain there are going to be no more new posts for a while.
You go to the kitchen and look in the fridge. You've got expired ground beef, and one tortilla. With some spice magic, you make a taco you could probably feed to a dog.
You go and check YouTube again. Nothing new. You check the forums. People bitching about trolls, so nothing new. You go to bed, just to wake up and do it all over again.
Oh wait! There's an egg in the fridge! In the drawer! I forgot about that! Oh man, I'm gonna eat good tomorrow!

So yeah, I'll take your 9 to 5 life over having to deal with that poo poo again any day.
When I was unemployed I just went from living on one type of Centrelink payment to another (student to unemployment). Never had any of these problems.

yo rear end is grass posted:

Really though, the worst part of unemployment is the lack of socialization. Sure you can talk to family, or a significant other if you have one, but there's nothing quite like talking to people who don't intimately know you.
This is definitely an issue though. The best thing about work is that it gets you out of the house and into places where you have to socialise. If you don't work (or got to school) then you don't have anywhere you need to be so it's really tempting to just stay home by yourself all day every day.

veni veni veni posted:

Renting is great until the rent prices shoot through the roof and it costs as more than a mortgage.
Then you move. :shrug:

zandert33
Sep 20, 2002

Where I live renting a decent looking 3 bedroom apartment costs about $200 more a month than what I pay a month for mortgage, taxes and insurance for my 4 bedroom that is much larger and has a nice yard.

Add to the fact that I get the tax deductions, and it makes it even better. Even if I got fired tomorrow and decided I was going to sell and move away it would have been worth it.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Renting is great if you have roommates. Though after you turn 30 your main goal should be owning and renting to roommates. Thats why I'm gonna buy a three flat in a bad neighborhood in Chicago! Just sit back, let the tenants pay my mortgage, and wait for the sweeping cleansing hand of gentrification to make my property worth millions......or a bombed drug hut. You know, which ever the market decides.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Field Mousepad posted:

You are either delusional or you have the best agent on the planet.

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...947_rect/13_zm/

RIP your housing market. This owns.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Ugh, even the houses look like frozen piss.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

4 bedrooms in <1000 ft?! :psyduck:

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Finished basements

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

Das Boo posted:

4 bedrooms closets in <1000 ft?! :psyduck:

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tiggum posted:


Then you move. :shrug:

Where? To another overpriced apartment that I'll be priced out of in a year?

Maybe I will move to majestic Des moines and enjoy the cheap rent and once in a while I can go downtown and check out the building.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
I would happily move to Des Moines and let jastiger cook me an Iowa Chop...if there were attractive jobs for me, which there generally aren't.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Blue Star posted:

Nah

:smirks while tilting head back and to the left, shaking head slowly:

lol

You seem weirdly agitated about an off the cuff response to a separate discussion.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn
There is nothing wrong with letting a girl pee on you.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

We Know Catheters posted:

There is nothing wrong with letting a girl pee on you.

Bit sexist this.

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

sassassin posted:

Bit sexist this.

Anyone, really.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004


:staredog:

That's a cracker box dude. My house cost me $147k for 1440 square feet. Your housing market isn't as great as you'd like to think.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
That one is about 1400 sq feet. Basements are finished and unable in Iowa. Tbh though tbe housing prices are starting to increase

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...387_rect/14_zm/

My house is closer to this, a bit bigger and I paid 150k. Granted mine is 1996, but yeah you can get a lot of NICE house here in a NICE area for not a lot of money. To put it in perspective, to rent a place like this it'd be the same or more as the mortgage.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I live in Memphis TN and you can get nicer houses than those for less money in the suburbs here.

The ironic thing about Jastiger's hate of the South is that most southern cities are probably remarkably similar to Des Moines, only with a much larger portion of black people.

Wait a second...

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Ytlaya posted:

I live in Memphis TN and you can get nicer houses than those for less money in the suburbs here.

The ironic thing about Jastiger's hate of the South is that most southern cities are probably remarkably similar to Des Moines, only with a much larger portion of black people.

Wait a second...

The main difference is most southern cities have made bigger and better cultural contributions than Slipknot.

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Are Slipknot still a thing? Its quite impressive if they are because what a loving awful band.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Ramagamma posted:

Are Slipknot still a thing? Its quite impressive if they are because what a loving awful band.

Yes and there's this weird revisionist history among metalheads lately that their early work was actually good, because people are nostalgic for lovely gateway bands.

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Ytlaya posted:

I live in Memphis TN and you can get nicer houses than those for less money in the suburbs here.

The ironic thing about Jastiger's hate of the South is that most southern cities are probably remarkably similar to Des Moines, only with a much larger portion of black people.

Wait a second...

Dont you worry. Its almost February and i can once again explain what is what regarding thr South

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Henchman of Santa posted:

Yes and there's this weird revisionist history among metalheads lately that their early work was actually good, because people are nostalgic for lovely gateway bands.

I'm nostalgic for the times id listen to wait and bleed while in a mosh pit with my hair dyed jet black and a chain hanging off my belt too but they are still god awful.

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Their first album was one of the best metal albums around that time. I know that's not a very good endorsement but still it's pretty rad.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Metal is dumb

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Field Mousepad posted:

Their first album was one of the best metal albums around that time. I know that's not a very good endorsement but still it's pretty rad.

:laffo:

e: Oh I thought your post said "of all time," nevermind

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE

bradzilla posted:

:laffo:

e: Oh I thought your post said "of all time," nevermind

Come on man, not even early 20s me would have said that.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Keep in mind that the biggest rock band in America at the time Slipknot broke through was Creed, compared to which Slipknot probably sounded kinda cool.

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