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bean_shadow posted:
It's drat near impossible to judge a Presidency until decades after they've left office. Clinton's stature keeps declining while unpopular Presidents like Carter and LBJ are being judged better by history. I'm not saying Bush is going to be ranked with the good Presidents, but his wars may be over shadowed by his push to stop AIDS in Africa. Just like all the good Obama did domestically could be overshadowed by Syria and the rise of ISIS. It takes a generation or two to shake everything out.
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Krispy Kareem posted:It's drat near impossible to judge a Presidency until decades after they've left office. Clinton's stature keeps declining while unpopular Presidents like Carter and LBJ are being judged better by history. But Obama is already by far the worst president in American history and every piece of his legacy is utterly destroying everything good about America?????
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I distinctly remember when I was in high school and Bush was viewed as Literal Hitler and we were on the verge of living in a dictatorship while being moved into plastic FEMA coffins All these years later and now Bush somehow looks appealing compared to our current setup
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Feb 1, 2017 01:42
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I think history will be relatively kind to bush. Iraq, is the obvious black mark, the black sites, torture, the recession... but There was that giant medicaid expansion. He at least seemed to genuinely care about America even if I horribly disagreed with him. There was the whole corporate kleptocracy thing, but that was more Cheney's bag, and at least they realized government stability was necessary. He wasn't a walking constitutional crisis threatening global stability with every tweet. think he'd be easy to get along with in person, and could probably have a civil discourse about politics with him. I mean faint praise, but that's where we are as a country
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Feb 1, 2017 02:11
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goose willis posted:we were on the verge of living in a dictatorship while being moved into plastic FEMA coffins 
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Feb 1, 2017 02:11
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There's going to be a picture of Bush dodging a shoe in future textbooks; it's a guarantee.
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Feb 1, 2017 02:15
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The key difference between Bush and Trump is that the former is well-meaning stupid and the latter is aggressive stupid
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Feb 1, 2017 02:24
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Gaunab posted:There's going to be a picture of Bush dodging a shoe in future textbooks; it's a guarantee. In the future textbooks will be able to display the whole animated gif.
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Feb 1, 2017 02:40
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Nuebot posted:In the future textbooks will be able to display the whole animated gif. In the future that animated gif will be the entire textbook.
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:In the future that animated gif will be the entire textbook. Children will learn entirely through memes. This is a change I can get behind.
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Feb 1, 2017 02:57
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TinTower posted:
I saw the thumbnail and read this as "repel the next generation." And I almost agreed.
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Feb 1, 2017 03:19
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Krispy Kareem posted:It's drat near impossible to judge a Presidency until decades after they've left office. Clinton's stature keeps declining while unpopular Presidents like Carter and LBJ are being judged better by history. the only good president we ever had or will have is fdr. Please donate to my kick started where I plan to reanimate his skeleton and have him run in 2020.
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Feb 1, 2017 03:39
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bean_shadow posted:
Give people credit where they're due. Even Bush said not to blame all Muslims for 9/11. The speech in question: quote:I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It's practiced freely by many millions of Americans and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends. It is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them. It was a perfectly good thing for a president to say in the aftermath of an attack, and it's a perfectly good sentiment for today. I've shared this one myself, mainly as a "Look, even Bush thinks this is bullshit, how is anyone else cool with this?" thing.
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Feb 1, 2017 03:58
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Then we watched Bush start a loving war
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oldpainless posted:Then we watched Bush start a loving war And the war was loving atrocious, but I have conservative family, and there are only so many things that can be said that I think may get into their thick, stupid skulls. I'll take "words I don't disagree with from a guy I did disagree with". Midnight Voyager has a new favorite as of 04:05 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Some complete rando (unverified account with about 400 followers) paid money to promote the most generic smuggo atheist comment ever. https://twitter.com/PJZNY/status/826599895444365316 This was genuinely promoted into my feed. Henchman of Santa has a new favorite as of 05:35 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Most of the liberals I know sharing relevant Bush quotes are doing it so they can get their point across without the conservatives being able to challenge it / talk poo poo (and hey maybe they'll internalize it?). At least I think that's why they're doing it.
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Feb 1, 2017 05:38
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goose willis posted:I distinctly remember when I was in high school and Bush was viewed as Literal Hitler and we were on the verge of living in a dictatorship while being moved into plastic FEMA coffins I remember people freaking out after Bush won the reelection. Like, walking around shell-shocked and crying. Things are hosed now, but a decade down the line when something worse comes up, we'll be looking back at this presidency as the good ol days. 
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hyperhazard posted:I remember people freaking out after Bush won the reelection. Like, walking around shell-shocked and crying. Things are hosed now, but a decade down the line when something worse comes up, we'll be looking back at this presidency as the good ol days. I got my visa to come to the US right after Bush was reelected for a second term. People kept asking me if I was sure I wanted to move, if it was the right thing. Now people are asking if I'm going to leave. Unfortunately I'm from the UK so the other option I'm facing is Brexit. 
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Feb 1, 2017 06:27
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Otana posted:I got my visa to come to the US right after Bush was reelected for a second term. People kept asking me if I was sure I wanted to move, if it was the right thing. You think that's bad? My other country is Israel. 
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Feb 1, 2017 06:56
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Man I haven't seen the spelling "Moslem" since like 1995.
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 DID YOU JUST COMPARE BIRMINGHAM DECLARING ITSELF A SANCTUARY CITY AND THE GOVERNOR THREATENING TO REMOVE THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING TO THE LITTLE ROCK NINE AND THE LITTLE ROCK CRISIS?! Midnight Voyager has a new favorite as of 07:21 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Feb 1, 2017 07:08
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Remember when idiots were all about States Rights? All of a sudden Federal Law takes precedent over State, huh? Oh right, there is no longer a Black man sitting as the POTUS.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Shots Just clicked on the tweets to see who the hell this guy is. First thing I saw - huge John Galt quote. Ewwwww.
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hyperhazard posted:I remember people freaking out after Bush won the reelection. Like, walking around shell-shocked and crying. Things are hosed now, but a decade down the line when something worse comes up, we'll be looking back at this presidency as the good ol days. I remember people being unhappy when he won reelection because he really shouldn't have but I don't recall freak outs, crying, gnashing of teeth, etc. Also, Bush and Cheney weren't trying to transform the country into a Man in the High Castle LARP.
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Data Graham posted:Man I haven't seen the spelling "Moslem" since like 1995. Go check out the Freep thread in D&D. Those bastards love that spelling. The site is a time capsule from 1999 but lets not think about that.
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Feb 1, 2017 08:28
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Don't they use colonial terms like Mohammadeans
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Midnight Voyager posted:
Haha, that was a quick turnaround from states rights. I wonder what they'll claim the totally justified cause for the CSA seceding was now. The Saddest Rhino posted:Don't they use colonial terms like Mohammadeans Mahometans. Reddit types have gone all in on those crusader memes and turned them unironic, so I wouldn't be surprised to see saracen cropping up in right wing discourse too.
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Feb 1, 2017 08:35
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Gotta make a moor-ban or things will get out of control quickly.
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Ambitious Spider posted:I think history will be relatively kind to bush. Iraq, is the obvious black mark, the black sites, torture, the recession... Don't forget the Patriot Act. I think all of those things are enough to keep him solidly in the bottom 10, especially when you add in the clusterfuck way he got elected to begin with. Also, for content, this comic:  Was met with this reply: 
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Rangpur posted:Do... do you actually know what the 1st amendment is? "Taxes should be higher" vs. "taxes should be lower" is a disagreement with grounds for engagement, "Taxes should be higher" vs. "gas the Jews" is not. I mean the government can't arrest you for either, but don't be surprised if the latter gets you bounced off the B'nai Brith awards committee. P sure the first would get you bounced off too.
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BigglesSWE posted:Gotta make a moor-ban or things will get out of control quickly. I think you mean a moop-ban.
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hanales posted:I think you mean a moop-ban. Please - White Supremacists would never ban moobs - they'd lost 90% of their members.
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hanales posted:I think you mean a moop-ban. Quality.
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SwitchbladeKult posted:I remember people being unhappy when he won reelection because he really shouldn't have but I don't recall freak outs, crying, gnashing of teeth, etc. Also, Bush and Cheney weren't trying to transform the country into a Man in the High Castle LARP. No, people did freak out just as much in 2004 as in 2016. And people certainly did think Bush and Co. was trying to set up a dictatorship. I remember liberals freaking out about Bush's re-election. And now they're trying to say, "We didn't freak out. Not like Trump." Yes, we did.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Shots https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/825359249383493634 What does "reparations for dogs and horses" even mean? 
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Feb 1, 2017 13:45
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on the bored wop posted:https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/825359249383493634 'black people are animals, and should be grateful for the enlightened rule of whitey'
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Feb 1, 2017 13:48
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on the bored wop posted:https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/825359249383493634 It means if we are to pay reparations for slavery then we should also pay it to dogs and horses because black people are literally animals. Also slavery was a good thing, not so much standing upon the shoulders of giants as standing upon the backs of the oppressed.
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bean_shadow posted:No, people did freak out just as much in 2004 as in 2016. And people certainly did think Bush and Co. was trying to set up a dictatorship. I remember liberals freaking out about Bush's re-election. And now they're trying to say, "We didn't freak out. Not like Trump." Yes, we did. Granted I was in middle school, but I think I'd remember if 1% of the entire population hit the streets the day after Bush's second inauguration.
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